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To find I’m still left with nothing each month despite it looking good written down.

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Itgetsharder · 29/06/2024 13:00

I’m newly separated…about 9months on my own now. I have my dc 50:50. I’m proud of what I have achieve on my own and the separation process isn’t even really started yet legally do I know there’s a long road ahead. I am hating that I’m left with little to nothing at the end of the month and sometimes dipping into savings (when I used to save 500-1k per month)
my figures are as follows:
My basic salary (with no overtime!) Is 2600
Child benefit (in Ireland) -280

So that’s a minimum of 2860 or thereabouts

My only solid must pay outgoings per month are
Rent 1400
Storage 80 (I’m working on getting rid of this!)
Life insurance 84
Internet and phone 52
Netflix 15
Bins 23
Electricity 120

I have a car but I own outright it and tax and insurance are paid annually. (Used savings)

So that’s a Total of 1874
So that’s a Leftover 986 which seems like a lot but that’s to cover food, petrol and everything else (clothes, birthdays, haircuts, days out etc)

Rationally I know I’m doing ok, I get that, I’m just worried that I’ll never be able to save again and buy my own place. I’m trying to relax about it but I’m finding I’m stressing.

I have changed roles in work which will allow me to wfh a few days a week which will reduce my petrol consumption.

Im aware I’m lucky in lots of ways, I suppose I’m just venting. I just find I’m flirting between being strong about it in the now and worrying about how it will all play out. Anyone else?

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Itgetsharder · 30/06/2024 10:45

@BMW6 yeah I probably have some unnecessary spending to be fair. I can take a look at that most definitely.

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BMW6 · 30/06/2024 09:58

I suggest you tackle this head on by writing down EVERTHING you are buying/spending for a week.

I suspect its many many little things that you're not really needing.

If you want to change and start saving you need to make some changes - but first identify where you are spending unnecessarily.

Itgetsharder · 30/06/2024 09:53

DamnUserName21 · 30/06/2024 09:42

I get it, OP.
I live in 2-bed in southern England at a similar rate due to rental prices.
Is there any chance your ex will take over the insurance payment as it's for you both?
Definitely look at food and miscellaneous costs to see if you can make any savings there.

@DamnUserName21 i could ask…I just feel like it would be another thing for me to sort though. It made sense to keep it and he would pay childcare to be honest. I just feel as I’m the one that left the marriage that I’m trying to be as reasonable/fair as possible, probably being unfair to myself to be fair.

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DamnUserName21 · 30/06/2024 09:42

I get it, OP.
I live in 2-bed in southern England at a similar rate due to rental prices.
Is there any chance your ex will take over the insurance payment as it's for you both?
Definitely look at food and miscellaneous costs to see if you can make any savings there.

Itgetsharder · 30/06/2024 09:10

Honestyy · 30/06/2024 08:43

You must live in an expensive area! You could get a similar house in my area of England for less than £900pcm (nice suburban/village area). Lucky NI for not having to pay council tax! Hopefully you can get yours and ex's house sold soon so you can find somewhere else. I'd get the ball started today because your ex won't start the proceedings as he's living a cushy lifestyle at the moment.

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I’m in the rep of Ireland where housing is in shortage and prices are generally higher unfortunately. 1400 is good. I know someone paying 1500 for a two bed apartment. It’s pretty average to be fair. And we are nowhere near Dublin! It’s ridiculous really.

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Itgetsharder · 30/06/2024 08:44

@Billybobbbi mostly yes, he pays some of the dc’s clubs too. If I pay for anything crazy expensive I ask him for half, which he will pay. I pay the dc’s health and dental insurance through work so there’s no need to ask him for half of that. But if I didn’t have that to claim through I certainly would.

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Honestyy · 30/06/2024 08:43

Itgetsharder · 30/06/2024 07:57

@Honestyy thers is no where cheaper that wouldn’t be an absolute dive and not suitable for my dc unfortunately. That is the going rate and it is for a three bed detached bungalow with a garden etc. I’m happy with it despite the ridiculous price to be fair. The insurance I can change in a few months or so yes.
No council tax Ireland. Thank god! I don’t think I could manage another bill like that!

You must live in an expensive area! You could get a similar house in my area of England for less than £900pcm (nice suburban/village area). Lucky NI for not having to pay council tax! Hopefully you can get yours and ex's house sold soon so you can find somewhere else. I'd get the ball started today because your ex won't start the proceedings as he's living a cushy lifestyle at the moment.

Billybobbbi · 30/06/2024 08:40

Is DH only financial contribution the €54 pw ? Did I miss something, he's still living in the family home no mortgage to pay and you are forking out full amount for rent. He's not stupid,surely he knows that, morally at least, he needs to pay towards their home, until you have your share of sale.

Coconutter24 · 30/06/2024 08:17

Itgetsharder · 30/06/2024 08:15

@Coconutter24 yes hopefully one way or another I will get half of the house worth as such. We haven’t truly broached that yet. But obviously we will have to.

I would start the ball rolling on it tbh and bring it up. I doubt your ex will, he’s comfortably living mortgage free

Itgetsharder · 30/06/2024 08:15

@Coconutter24 yes hopefully one way or another I will get half of the house worth as such. We haven’t truly broached that yet. But obviously we will have to.

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Coconutter24 · 30/06/2024 08:11

For now sounds like this is just the way it has to be for a while however surely things will get more comfortable or at least you’ll have money for a house if your husband buys you out your current home or if you both sell it you will get something?

JaneVtwaddle · 30/06/2024 08:07

BTW op every month all I have left in my main account is food money every single penny is allocated into its pot within minuets on pay day.
X amount goes to weekend money, x to Xmas, bday, holiday, petrol, insurance and all the rest...

JaneVtwaddle · 30/06/2024 08:03

Op break down what's left, so how much for food? 400? 500?
Put that aide for food.
How much do you need for days out each weekend?

Re Xmas and bday and holiday.. Save small amounts of what's left for these.
Start pots unless you have already eg 50 pm for Christmas, 30 pm bday, 60 for holidays.

Rest saving.

It may not seem like much and if one year when you start you can spend less on holiday and bday and Xmas, you will build u decent funds by next year.
Try and put 20 away each month for car stuff.
Also if you know what you spend on petrol also take that out along with food.. The divvy up the rest accordingly.

Itgetsharder · 30/06/2024 07:57

@Honestyy thers is no where cheaper that wouldn’t be an absolute dive and not suitable for my dc unfortunately. That is the going rate and it is for a three bed detached bungalow with a garden etc. I’m happy with it despite the ridiculous price to be fair. The insurance I can change in a few months or so yes.
No council tax Ireland. Thank god! I don’t think I could manage another bill like that!

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Honestyy · 30/06/2024 07:54

Your rent is very high so long term plan could be finding somewhere a lot cheaper. Life insurance is high too. The rest kind of sounds normal and you'd have a lot more money left at the end of the month if you moved somewhere with lower rent. Do you not pay council tax?

Itgetsharder · 30/06/2024 07:47

Just want to say, I have put a plan in place and I’m going to see how it goes. I should be able to save 170 per month with the new budget. I’ll be back in a few months to update 🙌

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Itgetsharder · 29/06/2024 17:05

Thank you everyone. It’s nice to just say these things out loud. I’m going to put a plan in place to sort it better and hopefully when all is sorted I’ll be able to buy my own place and feel less vulnerable 🥹

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cherish123 · 29/06/2024 16:51

Obviously your rent is high. Once the finances from the split are sorted and you can buy, your mortgage would probably be lower. You will also get rid of the payment for storage. Nothing else on the list seems frivolous and you do earn a good salary. My only advice would be try to keep food shopping to £100 per week. An Internet shop once a week can help keep the cost down, rather than going into the shops.

Meadowfinch · 29/06/2024 16:24

Well, tot up what you spend on food. Look at what is expensive every week. If you aren't paying attention, you could probably save £100 a month just on that.

  1. Milk is 90p a pint or £1.45 for four pints so get some pint containers, split & freeze.
  2. Large loaves of bread, split & freeze.
  3. Batch-cook chilli or bolognese and freeze half.
  4. Learn how to bone a chicken leg. Each gives a large single portion of meat (easily enough for a hungry 6' boy) yet only costs 65p.
  5. Use all the left over-veg at the end of each week to make a veggie chilli or veg & cheese soup.
  6. Freeze fruit when in season (apples, blackberries etc) for pies & cakes
  7. Frozen fish is your friend - fast, tasty, healthy, inexpensive, no waste.

Get a decent 'quick food' cook book. You'll eat healthier and save money.

Itgetsharder · 29/06/2024 16:06

@Meadowfinch i have no idea how much I spend on food. I’m afraid to tot that up. It’s not huge but not tiny either!

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Itgetsharder · 29/06/2024 16:05

LadyFeatheringt0n · 29/06/2024 15:56

50% of your income on rent/mortgage is extremely high.

If you're going to have to get a mortage on your own without ex dh, will the bank actually lend you enough? That level of repayment on your income level would usually breach affordability levels.

I’m hoping that when I buy I won’t have THAT much of a payment. But if I can pay that much and not be dipping into savings for 6 to 8 months then I’ve been told that they will take that into consideration. So a mortgage of say 900 would be affordable. My wage will increase each year too and I do get an annual share/cash bonus from work, also have a permanent contract so I’m in a good position. If I have a chunk of money after separation (I’m guessing 100k or so) then that will be a good deposit.

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LadyFeatheringt0n · 29/06/2024 15:56

50% of your income on rent/mortgage is extremely high.

If you're going to have to get a mortage on your own without ex dh, will the bank actually lend you enough? That level of repayment on your income level would usually breach affordability levels.

Meadowfinch · 29/06/2024 15:49

Is that €986 or £986. Either way, it's not a huge amount.

How much do you spend on food? I'm careful with food costs but still spent £250 a month on food for me and teen DS. Haircuts are £60 a month. Diesel is £80 a month. I have my ds all the time.

But it only takes for DS to have a field trip or grow out of his trainers and need a new coat, and that's another £100. He's into adult shoes now so hello VAT !

I've been a single mum for 14 years. I've learned to be careful with food. I grow my own fruit, salad & some veg, make batches of my own jam. I make school uniform last as long as possible (seam binding on trouser hems to make them longer etc). I use the second-hand school shop when possible.
I buy meat and fish in bulk, split into portions and freeze. The same with large containers of milk, Nothing goes to waste.
I have a log burner and free wood, so I avoid using the central heating for as long as possible.

I make it work but sometimes I think I've turned into my mother 😕

Itgetsharder · 29/06/2024 15:41

lemonmeringueno3 · 29/06/2024 15:22

I think I would also feel a bit vulnerable op, as you are paying 50% of your net income in rent. On those figures it is no surprise that you are 'just about ok' and unable to save very much.

Unfortunately, I do think that separation usually sees both parties suffering financially, at least initially, and at least you can^^ cover everything even if it's tight.

I think there's room to save a bit here and there which might add up, such as your life insurance which seems expensive to me, but mostly you'll just have to wait it out knowing your wages will rise and your expenses (such as childcare) will fall over time, and that you e got a chunk of cash coming from the family home.

@lemonmeringueno3 yes that’s the word “vulnerable” that’s exactly how I feel 😢

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Itgetsharder · 29/06/2024 15:40

anicesitdownandshutup · 29/06/2024 15:06

Can you claim rent credit - think that it's €500 per year. Did you say that you've told Revenue that you're now separated? A friend of mine separated and she was primary carer for 3 kids and they adjusted her tax bands but as you're 50 50 maybe that won't apply for you. Could a room be rented out in the former family home? Do you follow Irishbudgeting on insta? Lots of cheap meal ideas there. Food can be so expensive. Meal plan as much as you can

@anicesitdownandshutup i haven’t told revenue yet no. This is a good point but I’m guessing with 50:50 it will be the same for us both. He is living in the former family home and it is only a two bed so no room to rent out. He wouldn’t do it anyway i suspect because it’s the dc’s home too which i would agree with.
I don’t follow Irish budgeting on insta…I actually have removed all social media apps on my phone, apart from mn (which I wouldn’t consider sm as such) it’s not good for my mental health and was leading to too much mindless scrolling and wasted time.

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