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Can any nannies/ parents give me some advice please?

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tigerlilt · 29/06/2024 10:48

Hey! I'm about to take my first proper job as a nanny but just want to see if what I'm being offered is reasonable as I genuinely have no clue! So its live in (really nice accommodation), all board included and hours are 7.30- 5/6 with a few hours off in the afternoon. The pay is £750 a month, is this normal with all food ect included or is it low? Thanks!

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MrsPinkCock · 29/06/2024 21:38

You’d have to be working no more than 21 hours a week for that to be legal (taking into account the accommodation offset if you’re live in).

it sounds horribly exploitative to me and they will probably be terrible employers. I’d walk away.

PeloMom · 29/06/2024 21:38

I’m in Canada, not uk, but here the law is that I cannot pay a nanny, even a live in, below minimum wage.

BirthdayRainbow · 29/06/2024 21:36

That's very low.

radio4everyday · 29/06/2024 21:35

There are 22 working days in the average month, and you're working let's say 10 hours a day, so that's 220 hours for £750. Even taking account of accommodation, do you not think you're worth more than £3.40 per hour? I earnt more than that babysitting in my teens..........

User478 · 29/06/2024 21:34

50 hours a week?

So £3.75 an hour?

They are allowed to offset £69.93 a week because it is live in.

At minimum wage that should be £572/week (minus £69.93 = £502.07 per week) or £2008.28/month

Run!

OvertiredandConfused · 29/06/2024 21:33

My DD is a live in nanny. Works 55 hours a week with accommodation, bills and most food included. Earns £38k.

Mummyboy1 · 29/06/2024 21:30

Are you actually being employed as a nanny or are they trying to employ you as an au pair?
You say you'll have a few hours off, how many hours will you actually be working? They still need to be paying you minimum wage. Are you in the UK ?

Lokshen · 29/06/2024 21:16

That's very low,. especially for those 'split shift' hours.

WinnieWimbledon · 29/06/2024 20:58

That’s really low pay. I’d expect a £8-10k a year difference for live in/live out.

Salary around £40k based on experience.

BendingSpoons · 29/06/2024 19:50

You should be being paid at least minimum wage. In April they changed the law to require minimum wage for 'live in domestic workers', so I would assume the same for a nanny. So presumably £11.44ph assuming you are at least 21. So even if you were only working 7 hours a day with a long PM break, that would still be around £80 a day, or £400 a week. I suspect you are doing more that 7 hours too.

hoarahloux · 29/06/2024 19:24

Do you have childcare qualifications? Are you/will you be ofsted registered?

It's really, really low even without those.

Inthemosquitogarden · 29/06/2024 19:20

No it’s not normal, it’s possibly illegal it’s so low.

Luxell934 · 29/06/2024 19:16

It sounds very low, even with accomodation/food. What is the accommodation like? A room or your own separate annex?

But I guess if you weren't live in and you had to live somewhere else close by, how much would you be paying per month for everything, rent, bills, food etc?

StopInhalingRevels · 29/06/2024 19:11

tigerlilt · 29/06/2024 10:51

I have first aid training, safeguarding training and have worked with children for 3 years.

Ok, so putting it bluntly, the first two things mean squat.

When you say "worked with children" is this full time in a nursery, or helping at a gymnastics club kind of level. Do you hold any levels of the childcare qualifications?

Anyone can call themselves a nanny. You need no qualifications and that makes levels of pay, miles apart. We've had a few, some outstanding, some not so.

We paid according to each specific person. Our best nanny, had been a private nanny full time for 7 years before she came to us. Had excellent references. Was a scout leader. Had the top level of childcare qualification (is that level 3 or 5, I can't remember it's a while back now?). She held cookery.ans nutrition qualifications. She didn't even mention having paediatric first aid (although obviously did) as it's such a basic thing. She was on £38k live out.

We had another, only for a few months as like temporary cover. She had done a lot of babysitting locally and had good references. First aid, DBS checked. And she was on much less. Because whilst she was a lovely girl, you pay for qualifications and experience. She was no more a nanny than I am. And you could really tell. The contrast between her and our best, was stark.

PotteringAlonggotkickedoutandhadtoreregister · 29/06/2024 18:59

Absolutely not. If they double it, I would consider it. If not, walk away and get another role!

downtownlights · 29/06/2024 18:57

Mairzydotes · 29/06/2024 11:17

Also , how old are you op? There are different Minimum wages for different age groups

That’s not really the point because live in Nannies have generally always been paid more than NMW

Mairzydotes · 29/06/2024 11:17

Also , how old are you op? There are different Minimum wages for different age groups

HanSB · 29/06/2024 11:15

I would expect at least minimum wage with the accommodation covered. They are trying to take advantage of you. Also make sure anyone that employs you does it properly and that you will be on a payroll with all the employee benefits like holiday pay, sick leave, maternity pay, pension.

DancingNotDrowning · 29/06/2024 11:14

My DC are older now and I haven’t had a nanny for a few years but I have had three over a 15 year period and my last nanny (live in) was earning more in a week than your employer is planning on paying you (edited to add: in a month). I was in London but was not an outlier in terms of salary and benefits.

Either your proposed employers are reprehensible people who are deliberately paying you below minimum wage in which case I will guarantee you won’t get a proper contract and they won’t be paying your tax and NI properly, both if which are problematic for you.

OR

they’re naively clueless in which case working for them will be a nightmare: there’ll never be a kitty, your hours will fluctuate, they’ll be difficult over holidays etc

InTheRainOnATrain · 29/06/2024 11:13

Run a mile! That’s so exploitative.

Overthebow · 29/06/2024 11:11

That’s very low, way below minimum wage.

GrazingSheep · 29/06/2024 11:10

They are exploiting you.

titchy · 29/06/2024 11:09

Wow cheeky fuckers! An au pair would get around that but only be working a few hours a day and still have board and lodgings. Way too low.

Roundroundthegarden · 29/06/2024 11:08

We paid around 38k for our FT live out nanny, and she worked shorter hours than that. That sounds extremely low to me.

DancingNotDrowning · 29/06/2024 11:07

That’s appalling and would take you below the national minimum wage.

typical nanny salaries in England are about £35-45k per year depending on where you’re based. There is really not much deduction for being provided with accommodation, nor for having “a few hours off” in the afternoon because of course you can’t work in another role.

please do not take this role. You promise there are many far better opportunities open to you.