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To be really worried about our finances?

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Thimbling · 29/06/2024 06:29

I’m 35 years old and married with two children who are 10 and 8. We don’t own a house and we have one car which is quite old and not on finance. Below is a summary of our bank balances.

My current account £300
husnands current account £550
joint current account £1100
lifetime isa £22100
stocks and shares isa £990
My private pension savings £5000

Debt
Credit card balance £3770

I am really worried about our ages and the lack of financial security we have since we don’t own a home yet. My husband is in the military and has a reasonably good pension. I have no workplace pension so started saving in my own one about 2 years ago.

im just so stressed about being so far behind all of our family and friends. DH and I would love to have another child but it’s off the table.

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Thimbling · 01/07/2024 06:11

@Bluemincat the credit card debt is because my husband had some issues with his debit card which meant he was temporarily having to spend on the credit card. Unfortunately, we overpaid into savings in that time and then realised we couldn’t easily clear the balance. In a few months, the credit card debt should be gone.

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Bluemincat · 01/07/2024 00:20

Only if their income is higher than their outgoings. They have credit card debt at the moment which suggests they're not even covering their outgoings.

hattie43 · 30/06/2024 22:26

You're only 35 you've years ahead to increase your finances .

Bluemincat · 30/06/2024 22:07

Do think about how another baby would impact your career plans, and added costs of childcare. Also, little things like having 3 DC often means needing a bigger car or having to pay for extra rooms in hotels/on holiday etc.

The extra expense of a third child isn't just when they're young but thinking about things like hobbies/clubs/music etc when they're older and possibly university fees.

Not saying that you shouldn't do it but that you shouldn't underestimate the financial difference it will make.

Bridgertonne · 30/06/2024 21:52

What type of job will your DH try and get when he leaves the military and how much will his pension be?

* thank you. do you think another baby would put too much pressure on us financially? The response seems mixed*

You have savings, an income, secure cheap housing for the next few years and want another baby, so I’d go for it.

Thimbling · 30/06/2024 21:30

@Bridgertonne thank you. do you think another baby would put too much pressure on us financially? The response seems mixed.

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Bridgertonne · 30/06/2024 20:07

Your financial situation sounds fine to me, you’ll be able to buy in a few years when your DH leaves the military as you have savings.

Thimbling · 30/06/2024 20:03

Thank you so much @WhitegreeNcandle. Will have a listen to the podcast.

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WhitegreeNcandle · 30/06/2024 19:54

Try the Dave Ramsey podcast. I find it quite motivating.

really sad to see we’re not taking care of the military the way we should be. Thank you for yours and your husbands service.

Thimbling · 30/06/2024 19:00

I have heard of Dave Ramsey. Will take a look.

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3luckystars · 29/06/2024 12:07

I agree. Can you get Dave Ramseys book? I think you are doing great.

Your life sounds stressful though, hats off to all in the military. It sounds hard.

Pigeonqueen · 29/06/2024 12:03

I don’t really understand what you’re worried about 🤷‍♀️ I mean yes if you post on Mumsnet you’ll get people telling you you’re poor because Mumsnet seems to attract a lot of very high earners who earn £80-100k plus. But - it’s not reflective of real life. You have a small, manageable amount of debt and lots of savings compared to many- £22k is a LOT. (We are in our 40s and currently have 68p in savings 😳🤣 we do own our home outright though).

Make sure you’re claiming everything you’re entitled to - universal credit maybe etc etc. If you want to own your own home make that a priority and make a budget. But don’t beat yourself about your situation, it’s so much better than a lot of people.

Ilovecakey · 29/06/2024 11:42

HcbSS · 29/06/2024 06:36

You cannot afford another child so please knock that idea on the head.
You are not too old to own a home one day but make it a priority. Are you working FT? If not why not?

How rude! It's not up to you to tell someone if they can have another child or not! Looks like she haa plenty of money to me.

Op if you want another child go for it.

BrigadierEtienneGerard · 29/06/2024 11:24

Frankly, your DH is so far down the line that I would advise him to stay to complete his service for pension and go for a commission if he can. When he comes out, there are any number of jobs where the sole qualification is to be an ex-officer.

As for your current finances, while you're not rolling in cash, the black items outweigh the red by a fair margin.

Don't get complacent but I think you are being over-anxious.

pishwetspring · 29/06/2024 11:13

@Thimbling just to say I agree with your husband re staying another 3-4 years to get his full pension. He has got this far, don't walk away from it now.

StMarieforme · 29/06/2024 10:42

Duncan Bannantyne was sat on a beach with not so much as a bank account at 30! He did ok!

Point being don't worry too much. Don't ruin your younger years working. Do your best. You have more than many and your earning potential will only increase.

Good luck!

FreakOfNature · 29/06/2024 10:30

@Thimbling In that case, definitely consider married unaccompanied, particularly when you know it will be limited to a couple of years. It will make the transition smoother. Leaving the fold is usually a bit of a head f* 😵‍💫, they are so indoctrinated.
Undoubtedly, you will need to grow a thick skin, put the pressure on and take the lead. It will be hard for you both, bit you will be better off financially in the long run.
DH is middle OF-3 and once rent/ciloct is taken out he clears just over £3k a month. A third of that goes on boarding school fees. Kids did 6 schools before year 7, their education suffered significantly.

ThatTimeIKnewFamousPeople · 29/06/2024 10:12

HcbSS · 29/06/2024 06:36

You cannot afford another child so please knock that idea on the head.
You are not too old to own a home one day but make it a priority. Are you working FT? If not why not?

Why do you say that? @Thimbling op has more saved than we did when we did had our last child, and we were renting too at the point. 8 years later we are fine, and own a home ( small mortgaged) I was 36, dh was 43 when we had our last child and shortly after bought a home, and it's all been fine

Thimbling · 29/06/2024 10:04

@FreakOfNature but I totally agree with everything you are saying. The expenses of being military far outweigh any perks or “cheap housing” etc. My husband had to leave at the drop of a hat and sometimes for upto 9 months. With no family support network nearby to help with childcare. And then relocating frequently. My husbands salary is far too low to make up for the challenges that I face in building a strong career.

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Thimbling · 29/06/2024 10:00

@FreakOfNature my husband says he can’t get out because he is 3 or 4 years away from qualifying for his full pension.

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FreakOfNature · 29/06/2024 09:55

Fellow dependent here, 10 years ahead of where you are.
If we had our time again, we absolutely would have got out at the stage of life you're at. The lack of funding has decimated what 'perks' there were to make it a worthwhile 'lifestyle'. I have sacrificed my career for his but we no longer live in a world where the X factor makes it manageable. We all work, but it's most minimum wage.

The forces provide an element of guaranteed security but as you will well know, it comes with more and more uncertainty, relentless tours/courses/exercise's etc. You, your career and your family life will always take a back seat, and the support network these days is pitiful.

Married Unaccompanied is an option becoming more popular, enables you to build the rock solid support you need for childcare so you can build a career and get on the housing ladder. I would say you do need a rock solid relationship for this to succeed though.

Over 25 years I know very few who have successfully maintained an actual career alongside the serving spouse (unless dual serving or they've not moved, which is still very unusual).

Iloveeastereggs2020 · 29/06/2024 09:16

I think you’re being really hard on yourself, military life is not only hard but also very expensive. I think it’s easy to forget the cost of moving, even with disturbance allowance it does really add up. Then not adding on the help with childcare a lot of people have with family living near by. It would be great for you guys to aim for a rental property, once we lump summed the deposit it’s quite minimal now but keeps us on the property ladder. Nationwide do mortgages for people in the armed forces that keep your interest rate to normal rates and not buy to let property rate but I can also appreciate it’s a lot of money to save and part with x

TwinklyRoseTurtle · 29/06/2024 08:36

Have a look at the Dave Ramsey plan- a lot of it is American but the main points are there x

Bluevelvetsofa · 29/06/2024 08:35

Do you have longer term plans for when your husband leaves military service? If he can stay on, all well and good, but it might be an idea to do some long term planning so you’re not caught out.

Dashel · 29/06/2024 08:29

I would do a monthly budget and track spending so that you know where the money is going. If you know how much you are really spending it can be quite shocking and worked out on a yearly basis can really make you think about whether you want it.

Depending on how quickly you want to get finances in order, you can then make the necessary cut backs or look at ways to up your income, whether that’s extra hours or side hustles.

I would look to get the debt paid off and then save as much as you can. Have a look at websites like money saving expert can be really motivating and give good ideas and there are challenges on there you can join in for support.

If you know where you would be looking at living, you could also have a look to see what sort of prices you would be looking at and mortgage calculators to see what sort of income and deposit you would need. I know the market can change a lot but it might be helpful.