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To ask about Nigel Farage Question Time appearance just now

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Acapulco12 · 28/06/2024 22:39

Question Time hosted interviews and an Q&A this evening with Adrian Ramsay (Green Party co-chair) and Nigel Farage.

I watched it to see what they both had to say, as I’d never heard Adrian Ramsay speak before and because I wanted to see how Nigel Farage would present himself and to see what he would say.

NF said many things I didn’t agree with and don’t think are true. However, one thing he said in particular shocked me - he said the Clacton Labour candidate has said very racist things over the last few days. NF said this with so much confidence and conviction, but I can’t find any evidence of it anywhere and no one called him out on it (not Fiona Bruce - the presenter - or anyone in the audience).

The only thing I can find about the Labour candidate is that he’s been moved to stand somewhere in the Midlands, rather than Clacton, and people are complimenting his dress sense online, but that’s it - I can’t find anything about his allegedly racist views at all.

AIBU to think this is unacceptable that NF was not challenged at all for slandering the Labour candidate?

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Acapulco12 · 28/06/2024 23:52

Valeriekat · 28/06/2024 23:51

The internet is forever.

Yes, but I don’t think that’s always appropriate.

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Valeriekat · 28/06/2024 23:51

The internet is forever.

Whothefuckdoesthat · 28/06/2024 23:42

Zizzagaaaaaww · 28/06/2024 23:21

This is the tweet
Funny how it got very little coverge

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I’m not questioning whether he actually said them, if the tweet has been dug up. I just can’t find anything to suggest that was why he was removed.

I’m quite surprised that nobody in any of the other parties has come out to say that if we’re playing a game of ‘count the racist comments our candidates have made’, this Labour candidate wouldn’t even be top 50.

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Acapulco12 · 28/06/2024 23:35

The fact that the Labour candidate made those comments obviously delights NF, as it takes the heat right off him and also fits his racist agenda nicely.

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Acapulco12 · 28/06/2024 23:34

cupcaske123 · 28/06/2024 23:28

he said the Clacton Labour candidate has said very racist things over the last few days. NF said this with so much confidence

Like what? What has the Labour candidate said over the last few days?

The tears post is from 4 years ago.

Yet we have a Reform candidate on a campaign trail saying he wants to deprive ethnic minorities of medical help and shoot asylum seekers.

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I agree with you. I don’t think he should have said the things he did - it’s not okay for him to say them, or for anyone to say things like that.

However, as you say, he did say them 5 years ago, which is a long time ago, and I would hope he has grown up and matured significantly since then. I am not at all saying this to defend or excuse his comments. They are not excusable and I won’t excuse them.

I do think though that we need to make it clear - as you say here - that he made these comments 5 years ago and not recently, as NF suggested in the QT episode tonight.

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cupcaske123 · 28/06/2024 23:28

he said the Clacton Labour candidate has said very racist things over the last few days. NF said this with so much confidence

Like what? What has the Labour candidate said over the last few days?

The tears post is from 4 years ago.

Yet we have a Reform candidate on a campaign trail saying he wants to deprive ethnic minorities of medical help and shoot asylum seekers.

Zizzagaaaaaww · 28/06/2024 23:21

Acapulco12 · 28/06/2024 22:47

None of the news articles I’ve read have explained why he was removed from Clacton. I’ve just Googled the ‘white man’s tears’ comment now, and it’s not being reported in any of the main papers. I haven’t seen anything about the comment until Charlie2121 mentioned it in their post just now.

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This is the tweet
Funny how it got very little coverge

To ask about Nigel Farage Question Time appearance just now
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Acapulco12 · 28/06/2024 23:21

LuluBlakey1 · 28/06/2024 23:05

I thought Farage was completely disingenuous on several points- particularly the racist comments made by numerous of his own candidates which he brushed aside very quickly. His whole modus operandi is to incite fear in his audience and then, occasionally, offer a vague sop when put on the spot about his remarks by being asked what he would actually do.
The questions were awful I thought and allowed him to wriggle, dismiss and waffle pompously. The question from the Dr was appalling as were several of the ones about racism and he was not challenged by them. He tells outright lies.

I didn’t think the questions from the audience were bad, but I agree his answers were really poor (as expected).

He had the opportunity to freely waffle and completely avoid fhe question, and just offer populist answers and solutions to the really complex issues raised by the questions.

He also kept on complaining about the current state of the country, rather than offering any clear solutions (although all of the candidates have done that).

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Acapulco12 · 28/06/2024 23:17

Whothefuckdoesthat · 28/06/2024 22:57

I missed that. All the reports I’ve read suggested that he was attracting a fair bit of attention and it was distracting from Starmer’s campaign, so he was bumped off elsewhere. Is anyone reporting on his comments?

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Same here - I had the same experience.

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LuluBlakey1 · 28/06/2024 23:05

I thought Farage was completely disingenuous on several points- particularly the racist comments made by numerous of his own candidates which he brushed aside very quickly. His whole modus operandi is to incite fear in his audience and then, occasionally, offer a vague sop when put on the spot about his remarks by being asked what he would actually do.
The questions were awful I thought and allowed him to wriggle, dismiss and waffle pompously. The question from the Dr was appalling as were several of the ones about racism and he was not challenged by them. He tells outright lies.

Whothefuckdoesthat · 28/06/2024 22:57

Taciturn · 28/06/2024 22:46

You arejoking, right?
The "white man's tears" remark caused such an uproar that reputedly he was removed from Clacton as it was pulling so much press attention away from Kier Starmer.

I missed that. All the reports I’ve read suggested that he was attracting a fair bit of attention and it was distracting from Starmer’s campaign, so he was bumped off elsewhere. Is anyone reporting on his comments?

StickyProblem · 28/06/2024 22:57

Here is a link to some coverage, the racist remark was a reply to a tweet in 2019 according to The Independent.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/farage-clacton-labour-candidate-election-b2562143.html

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Acapulco12 · 28/06/2024 22:47

Taciturn · 28/06/2024 22:46

You arejoking, right?
The "white man's tears" remark caused such an uproar that reputedly he was removed from Clacton as it was pulling so much press attention away from Kier Starmer.

None of the news articles I’ve read have explained why he was removed from Clacton. I’ve just Googled the ‘white man’s tears’ comment now, and it’s not being reported in any of the main papers. I haven’t seen anything about the comment until Charlie2121 mentioned it in their post just now.

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Taciturn · 28/06/2024 22:46

You arejoking, right?
The "white man's tears" remark caused such an uproar that reputedly he was removed from Clacton as it was pulling so much press attention away from Kier Starmer.

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Acapulco12 · 28/06/2024 22:45

Thanks for clarifying. I had no idea as it’s not being reported anywhere.

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Charlie2121 · 28/06/2024 22:42

The Labour candidate for Clacton stated that his favourite drink was “white man’s tears”.

Can you imagine the uproar if Farage had said his favourite drink was “black man’s tears”