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To expect to share alcohol?

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Riversideandrelax · 28/06/2024 13:59

We went on an adult only trip to to celebrate a big birthday of a friend. It was a large group and we were divided into different holiday homes. We were sharing with one couple who are mutual friends of ours and one couple who we'd met a few times before but are not friends of ours.

Before we went this couple suggested we all put a bit of money in and they'd get some basic ingredients for breakfast/snacks for the holiday home. We agreed as did the friends of ours.

When we arrived they showed us what they'd bought. It was lots of 'basics' type things like cheap white bread, biscuits, crisps, squash, margarine, baked beans, instant coffee, sugary cereal, lots of sausages and bacon (I'm vegetarian.) This is not the type of food I normally eat but after a moment just thought I obviously had different expectations but as nothing was specified I'll have to put it down to experience. So we didn't say anything negative about the food - just got on with it.

We'd all brought some alcohol with us. Myself and the friends of ours said to everybody else 'please help yourself.' We'd brought a bottle of champagne, some wine and beers. Our friends had bought similar. The other couple bought a bottle of spirits. I realise now they'd not suggested that it was to be shared. I'd also brought some nice nibbles to share - crisps, olives, bread sticks.

On the first proper night (had arrived late on the first day) we were all sat in the lounge having some drinks and the nibbles I'd brought. I'd opened one of our bottles of wine and myself and the 2 other women were drinking that. The men all had some of the spirit. Anyway the evening went on and the men were a bit drunk. The man who brought the bottle of spirits started a physical fight with my DP because he'd helped himself to the spirit. It all came out. About how they'd offered us a cup of tea but we'd not reciprocated - we didn't ever have a tea as we don't like the cheap tea bags. We should have made them breakfast to thank them for getting the shopping.

I realised the whole thing about us paying for this shopping was essentially because they couldn't bare to share anything.

My DP didn't retaliate but left the holiday home to go for a walk to let things calm down. When he got back we packed our things and left.

I think the moral is not to go on holiday with people you don't know well. We are the type of people that share everything. They'd been counting every time my partner had some of their alcohol. They also eat very differently to us, which is fine, I'd just not realised. But perhaps they should have checked as they wanted to do it this way.

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Riversideandrelax · 28/06/2024 19:11

YabbaDabbaDooooo · 28/06/2024 18:22

I agree with this post.

There's something a bit 'Hyacinth Bucket' about the OP's attitude and if any of that came across, I expect that's what kicked it off eventually after a whole day of it.

But as you say, he was totally wrong to attack the OP's DH.

I really don't think I came across like that anymore than anyone else there. We deliberately didn't make any kind of fuss about the food. We had no idea they expected us to make them breakfast or offer them cups of tea. I think they were very upright.

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Riversideandrelax · 28/06/2024 19:09

OnePearlDreamer · 28/06/2024 18:22

OP just admit it, you think you are superior to this other couple and the man in the couple got fed up of your husbands attitude.

What attitude though? What did we do that was wrong? We acted the same way as the other couple. The man obviously got very drunk. And maybe he had an inferiority complex. All I can say is we tried not to offend with regards to the food. And we made a mistake.

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Ladyluckinred · 28/06/2024 19:08

Thank goodness that man did ‘share’ his alcohol! Sounds like he had enough to drink anyway. How silly of him, all he had to say was a) This is mine, get your own or b) Who’s getting the next bottle when this one’s done?! Simple!

Good you got out of there. Leave him and his precious vodka to it. Have you heard from your other friends today? Does the bloke feel like a petty twat for starting a physical fight over a bloody bottle of vodka?

BagFullOfNoodles · 28/06/2024 19:08

Whether you share alcohol or not isn't relevant, I don't tend to with DB and SIL because they like sweets drinks, fruit cider or alcopops , SIL once offered me candy floss flavoured gin with cream soda, I like dry white wine , but in those situations if offered I just say no thanks I'll stick with what I've brought I'm a bit fussy with drinks!

The big issue here is that the man physically attacked your partner!!

Riversideandrelax · 28/06/2024 19:06

YaWeeFurryBastard · 28/06/2024 18:20

You know what, I really tried not to 'turn my nose up at the food.' But I don't deny I was really shocked when they showed it to us so it may have shown on my face. But we didn't say anything negative about it. Thanked them for getting it. And quietly slipped off to get some breakfast in the morning.

You were really shocked by some white bread and crisps? Fucking hell, I’m a healthy eater but that’s incredibly precious and it would have really pissed me off.

It wasn't because it was white bread and crisps. It was the cheapest white bread available. The cheapest crisps available. We'd given them money to buy this. It wasn't the type of food you'd expect for an adult weekend celebration. More like a toddler's party maybe. Maybe I'm wrong and this is what other people would expect. But I've never come across this before.

But as I say we still paid for it, thanked them, made no comment on it. But, I'm sorry, I just don't eat like that and was hardly going to start on a nice weekend away.

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Riversideandrelax · 28/06/2024 19:00

OnePearlDreamer · 28/06/2024 18:20

"I personally find it quite miserly not to share"
This is the moral superiority. You made it clear you think the other men could have drunk all of his spirits, and he should have just bought more locally.

The other men don't drink a lot. But if it was really such a massive problem then having a few glasses then yes, we could have bought some more.

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Riversideandrelax · 28/06/2024 18:58

YaWeeFurryBastard · 28/06/2024 18:17

No, the person should wait to be offered some of the drink not just help themselves, that’s very rude.

I’m a sharing person and I always bring extra but I’d never just help myself to someone else’s drink without being offered, even if I’ve offered my own to share, which I always do. I think there’s a bit of a difference between spirits and wine and some people are very specific about what they drink. I’ve had people turn up with a bottle of cheap plonk before and then proceed to mainline their way through my expensive gin, I chalk it up to the cost of hosting but I can kind of see why they’d be annoyed.

Obviously he was extremely out of order to punch your husband though, my husband would have punched him back and they’d have been the ones leaving in the morning not us!

I believe the man offered my DP a glass. But then DP helped himself to a second glass. I find it odd that you would help yourself to other people's alcohol but not want them to help themselves to yours.

And this was not an expensive spirit. What we and the other couple had brought was expensive (because we were on holiday and celebrating.) So if anything we had more right to be annoyed that they were happy to have everyone else's expensive alcohol but couldn't even share a bit of cheap vodka!!

No, my DP's not like that. He does karate so would have flattened him if he'd retaliated. Obviously he defended himself but this guy was so drunk DP would not feel right laying into him. And we didn't wait til the morning.

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YellowAsteroid · 28/06/2024 18:55

That acquaintance couple sound pretty low rent. You & your DH did nothing wrong.

NewPinkJacket · 28/06/2024 18:54

StarvingMarvin222 · 28/06/2024 18:52

You're coming across as really obtuse.
If the couple don't want to share all they had to do was say so.
But the woman was happily drinking the ops wine.
You can't have it both ways.
It was up to the violent couple to tell the others don't touch my alcohol.

I think the man was the violent one, not the woman?

YaWeeFurryBastard · 28/06/2024 18:53

Riversideandrelax · 28/06/2024 18:44

No, within this friendship group we all share. Everyone is just generous with each other..because we like each other, we're friends. But yes, you are quite right at the time I did not realise they had a different view. But being the odd one out they should have made that clear.

And again, yes you are right we didn't communicate what we wanted. But I didn't realise we had to communicate we didn't want the cheapest food possible in huge quantities. But I did tell them I was vegetarian. For the same money they could have bought a normal amount of nicer breakfast things and a few nice snacks. We were only there for the weekend! But again yes, in hindsight maybe we all should have made a list or something. But at that point it would have been easier just to bring your own.

And yes, you are right we made an assumption. We were all sharing, they were sharing our items we thought we could share theirs. But the couple should have made it clear they didn't want anyone sharing their bottle.

And I'm sorry if it is coming across as my way is the right way. I really tried to not embarrass them. And I would have been fine if they said not to drink their bottle. I would have still shared mine with them but at least we would have known! I feel we all communicated much more than the other couple. We made it clear everything was to share. They said nothing.

You keep saying things like “within this friendship group we share” “in our group” etc. but you weren’t in “your group”, you were with one couple you usually socialise with and one you don’t. It’s coming across as very mean girls, superior and exclusionary which makes me wonder if there’s more to this.

StarvingMarvin222 · 28/06/2024 18:52

OnePearlDreamer · 28/06/2024 18:10

Yeah I am not that keen on subsidising other peoples large alcohol consumption.

You're coming across as really obtuse.
If the couple don't want to share all they had to do was say so.
But the woman was happily drinking the ops wine.
You can't have it both ways.
It was up to the violent couple to tell the others don't touch my alcohol.

Oldcroneandthreewitches · 28/06/2024 18:52

Was it an expensive bottle of spirit and you bought cheap wine?

YabbaDabbaDooooo · 28/06/2024 18:52

This is one thread where I'd love to hear the other couple's version of events.

Plus even the OP doesn't know what was said among the men when they were getting drunk.

Disclaimer: I'm not saying the guy was right to clump the OP's husband.

But I do wonder why the other couple didn't insist they guy left instead of OP and her DH.

sandyhappypeople · 28/06/2024 18:51

To be honest I think your DH may have been a bit out of line, but there was no excuse for the row that followed or their reaction.

I'm assuming you offered to share your bottle of wine? They didn't just go and help themselves to it?

If you DH just assumed that he could have some of their spirit because you offered to share your wine and he kept drinking it I'd be a bit miffed with him too. I would never just start drinking something that didn't belong to me, or that I hadn't bought, it is rude.

TwattyMcFuckFace · 28/06/2024 18:47

Screamingabdabz · 28/06/2024 18:43

They sound utterly vile. Violent grabby twats. I’d have burst into tears at that shit ‘breakfast’ so don’t worry about your ‘shocked face’ op! You did the right thing to get away asap.

Does the birthday person know what kicked off? what are their thoughts?

I’d have burst into tears at that shit ‘breakfast’ so don’t worry about your ‘shocked face’ op!

What the actual fuck, are you serious?

You would have burst into tears over some breakfast items??

Tangled123 · 28/06/2024 18:46

I think OP is coming across a bit superior - ‘oh I wouldn’t normally eat that kind of food’, ‘nice nibbles like crisps, olives and breadsticks’, ‘in my group we do it this way’.

it isn’t showing much grace or understanding for people maybe coming from a different economic background to her or that people not in her friendship group are not bound by her normal friendship group. Maybe they didn’t want to be seen as too ‘wasteful’ with someone else’s money either.

That said, I do wonder if the man of the other couple is prone to heavy drinking and violence. I would check in with the wife if you had been getting on with her before the fight as there could be more going on there.

ILoveToCleanSaidNooneEver · 28/06/2024 18:44

OnePearlDreamer · 28/06/2024 18:39

It is easy to accuse other people of being tight if they have to be more careful with money than you. It is easy to be generous and spend money on others when you have the money.

It is easy to accuse people of being tight if they are helping themselves to your stash, and kicking off if you drink theirs.

It is wrong to accuse someone of being tight if they've said 'Look, the alcohol is off limits. We have brought what we can, and that's for us'.

Riversideandrelax · 28/06/2024 18:44

OnePearlDreamer · 28/06/2024 18:16

Basically he was totally wrong to attack your DH. But you seem to have set yourself up as the generous ones - we just share everything, and not considered someone else's point of view. You agreed to the buying shared food, and then were not happy at what was bought, even though you had not communicated what you might want. You assumed his spirits were to share, even though he had not said it was to share.
There are a lot of assumptions, poor communication, and a sense of superiority that your way of doing things is the right way.

No, within this friendship group we all share. Everyone is just generous with each other..because we like each other, we're friends. But yes, you are quite right at the time I did not realise they had a different view. But being the odd one out they should have made that clear.

And again, yes you are right we didn't communicate what we wanted. But I didn't realise we had to communicate we didn't want the cheapest food possible in huge quantities. But I did tell them I was vegetarian. For the same money they could have bought a normal amount of nicer breakfast things and a few nice snacks. We were only there for the weekend! But again yes, in hindsight maybe we all should have made a list or something. But at that point it would have been easier just to bring your own.

And yes, you are right we made an assumption. We were all sharing, they were sharing our items we thought we could share theirs. But the couple should have made it clear they didn't want anyone sharing their bottle.

And I'm sorry if it is coming across as my way is the right way. I really tried to not embarrass them. And I would have been fine if they said not to drink their bottle. I would have still shared mine with them but at least we would have known! I feel we all communicated much more than the other couple. We made it clear everything was to share. They said nothing.

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Bridgertonne · 28/06/2024 18:44

I wouldn’t expect to share alcohol as my friends all like different drinks (I love my mini bottles of sparkling wine which aren’t very shareable). One of my best friends is the nicest people you’d ever meet but if anyone touches her New Zealand Sauvignon Blanc she really really doesn’t like it. My DH made this mistake once.
I wouldn’t share with my DH’s side of the family either as they are very much ‘wine police’ and I can’t be doing with it.
So over the years I find it’s best to keep
alcohol for personal consumption at group events.

Screamingabdabz · 28/06/2024 18:43

They sound utterly vile. Violent grabby twats. I’d have burst into tears at that shit ‘breakfast’ so don’t worry about your ‘shocked face’ op! You did the right thing to get away asap.

Does the birthday person know what kicked off? what are their thoughts?

Moveoverdarlin · 28/06/2024 18:42

Aside from who paid, cheap teabags, spirits and wine, I just wouldn’t want to holiday with someone that physically fights over a bottle of whiskey or whatever. They sound like scum. Glad you left. You did the right thing.

OnePearlDreamer · 28/06/2024 18:39

It is easy to accuse other people of being tight if they have to be more careful with money than you. It is easy to be generous and spend money on others when you have the money.

ILoveToCleanSaidNooneEver · 28/06/2024 18:34

You have basically said that you've reflected on this and realised some of your errors. The biggest of which was allowing them to do the shop when you are a vegetarian. I'm vegan and wouldn't dream of agreeing to give money to people to purchase food for me, even if I highlighted I was vegan. Unless they also followed the same diet of course.

Regarding the alcohol, I don't think yabu in the slightest. They do sound tight and the man's behaviour to attack you partner is disgusting. Sorry you went through that.

OnePearlDreamer · 28/06/2024 18:34

Riversideandrelax · 28/06/2024 18:29

We don't really drink a lot anyway. We just like to share. I suppose it was how I was brought up. I'd never drink a whole bottle of wine to myself - I only have a couple of glasses.

And truthfully, you brought at least 3 bottles and beer and and you say the other couple brought similar. That is pretty heavy drinking in my books whatever you think. A couple of large glasses of wine is easily half a bottle of wine.
I find though people who regularly drink a lot never think they do.

Riversideandrelax · 28/06/2024 18:33

OnePearlDreamer · 28/06/2024 18:13

You should have just said we will buy our own.

Well, yes, I wished I had! But we were just being easy going and just went along with it. Obviously, with hindsight that was a mistake.

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