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Riversideandrelax · 28/06/2024 13:59

We went on an adult only trip to to celebrate a big birthday of a friend. It was a large group and we were divided into different holiday homes. We were sharing with one couple who are mutual friends of ours and one couple who we'd met a few times before but are not friends of ours.

Before we went this couple suggested we all put a bit of money in and they'd get some basic ingredients for breakfast/snacks for the holiday home. We agreed as did the friends of ours.

When we arrived they showed us what they'd bought. It was lots of 'basics' type things like cheap white bread, biscuits, crisps, squash, margarine, baked beans, instant coffee, sugary cereal, lots of sausages and bacon (I'm vegetarian.) This is not the type of food I normally eat but after a moment just thought I obviously had different expectations but as nothing was specified I'll have to put it down to experience. So we didn't say anything negative about the food - just got on with it.

We'd all brought some alcohol with us. Myself and the friends of ours said to everybody else 'please help yourself.' We'd brought a bottle of champagne, some wine and beers. Our friends had bought similar. The other couple bought a bottle of spirits. I realise now they'd not suggested that it was to be shared. I'd also brought some nice nibbles to share - crisps, olives, bread sticks.

On the first proper night (had arrived late on the first day) we were all sat in the lounge having some drinks and the nibbles I'd brought. I'd opened one of our bottles of wine and myself and the 2 other women were drinking that. The men all had some of the spirit. Anyway the evening went on and the men were a bit drunk. The man who brought the bottle of spirits started a physical fight with my DP because he'd helped himself to the spirit. It all came out. About how they'd offered us a cup of tea but we'd not reciprocated - we didn't ever have a tea as we don't like the cheap tea bags. We should have made them breakfast to thank them for getting the shopping.

I realised the whole thing about us paying for this shopping was essentially because they couldn't bare to share anything.

My DP didn't retaliate but left the holiday home to go for a walk to let things calm down. When he got back we packed our things and left.

I think the moral is not to go on holiday with people you don't know well. We are the type of people that share everything. They'd been counting every time my partner had some of their alcohol. They also eat very differently to us, which is fine, I'd just not realised. But perhaps they should have checked as they wanted to do it this way.

OP posts:
MaMaMalenka · 30/06/2024 09:42

I can't believe the hard time you are getting here, OP! THey behaved appallingly, he attacked your DP and posters here are basically victim blaming you, as if you deserved it for being "snobbish" about white bread and baked beans! (subtext: you think you are better than working class people - the only people who obviously like white bread - therefore you deserve being beaten up).
I hope you never have to see them again!

YellowAsteroid · 30/06/2024 09:41

If PPs would actually read @Riversideandrelax ‘s posts, they’d see that the OP says (upthread) that she’s knows she’s not unreasonable about the attack on her husband. That’s not what she’s asking for other opinions about!

She’s asking about the sharing of food and in particular of wine and vodka.

And she’s not unreasonable about that, either. The other couple sound, at best, weird, and at worst, cheap grifters. Spending £90 on crap food - and sliced white bread, instant coffee, and shop-bought fairy cakes are - objectively - crap.

I don’t know why some PPs are intent on putting the boot into the OP. She sounds as though he and her DH are polite and non-confrontational - hence leaving the company of the nasty couple as quietly as they could.

Mamai100 · 30/06/2024 09:38

MidnightPatrol · 28/06/2024 15:48

In my experience it’s best to be really, really clear on this kind of stuff before you go away with a group.

They sound irritating yes, but why did you feel you needed to leave?

Seems a shame to miss your friends birthday over it.

No doubt because one of the arseholes started a physical fight.

Would you stay after that?

Ilovelurchers · 30/06/2024 09:34

Again, why is everybody talking about the bread?

"These people bought me cheap bread. Then they attacked my husband."

And nearly everybody focuses on the bread?

(To be fair, I am rather surprised that OP even mentioned the bread. I can only suppose it was to give context as to how the dispute started. But it really is of no relevance who would or wouldn't be happy with the bread (and the biscuits, crisps etc) compared to the fact that somebody physically attacked her husband).

dogoverman · 30/06/2024 07:20

NewName24 · 29/06/2024 23:54

It doesn't matter how many times you have said "I didn't want to offend" "I didn't want to appear snobby", you then follow it up by reiterating your snobbery.

I presume this was one weekend ? You could have just sucked it up. Honestly, you aren't coming across well here.

Obviously there is no excuse for someone to "start a physical fight", of course there isn't. Everyone on the thread agrees with that, but how strange for you to then leave. Surely the other couple would have backed you saying to them "I think you should leave in the morning" rather than you scuttling away in the night.

I too, would like to hear the two other versions of what happened - one from the couple who you approve of and one from the couple who you clearly think are beneath you.

What an unpleasant and rather judgy post

Why wouldn't someone be irked to pay a considerable food for inedible food, perfectly entitled to that and why wouldn't they leave if someone became violent, sounds rather sensible

StarvingMarvin222 · 30/06/2024 07:18

FeistyFrankie · 29/06/2024 22:57

What a strange post.

OP why wasn’t a discussion had beforehand about what food was being ordered? Whenever I’ve gone away as part of a group, any food orders are made with each person’s input (or at least, approval of what to buy). Why didn’t this happen? I just find it really hard to believe that you didn’t think to check what they were going to buy.

Sharing alcohol is unusual in my group of friends, most people don’t do this. I’m unsure as to why you’d assume that this would need to be stated outright.

I think there’s a lot of detail that’s been conveniently left out of this story in order to paint the other couple in a negative light.

I literally have no words.
The ops husband was assaulted and you think op left out details to paint the other couple in a bad light.
Seriously

Andwegoroundagain · 30/06/2024 06:26

OP I think you are not unreasonable to have assumed for £90 kitty that you'd be getting some nice brekker and the quantities of food they bought was frankly ridiculous. Especially as they knew one of the party was vegetarian so why so many sausages and bacon?

And all these people who are criticising you for being snobbish ... I don't think they'd also have thought by contributing £30 to a £90 kitty that they'd be getting enormous volumes of cheap ingredients.

For sure, some people don't care about what brand bacon and sausages and what sort of eggs. And that's fine, but then don't ask for a £30 contribution for a couple of fry ups. So I think this couple were honestly really CF to have asked for so much money.

And yes all of this pales compared to the actual incident itself !

NewName24 · 29/06/2024 23:54

It doesn't matter how many times you have said "I didn't want to offend" "I didn't want to appear snobby", you then follow it up by reiterating your snobbery.

I presume this was one weekend ? You could have just sucked it up. Honestly, you aren't coming across well here.

Obviously there is no excuse for someone to "start a physical fight", of course there isn't. Everyone on the thread agrees with that, but how strange for you to then leave. Surely the other couple would have backed you saying to them "I think you should leave in the morning" rather than you scuttling away in the night.

I too, would like to hear the two other versions of what happened - one from the couple who you approve of and one from the couple who you clearly think are beneath you.

FeistyFrankie · 29/06/2024 22:57

What a strange post.

OP why wasn’t a discussion had beforehand about what food was being ordered? Whenever I’ve gone away as part of a group, any food orders are made with each person’s input (or at least, approval of what to buy). Why didn’t this happen? I just find it really hard to believe that you didn’t think to check what they were going to buy.

Sharing alcohol is unusual in my group of friends, most people don’t do this. I’m unsure as to why you’d assume that this would need to be stated outright.

I think there’s a lot of detail that’s been conveniently left out of this story in order to paint the other couple in a negative light.

CorvusPurpureus · 29/06/2024 22:54

Well, the short answer is that at least one of them is completely bonkers & has hugely mismatched the shop to the occasion.

That list of food is one that I'd unashamedly have bought for a huge, multi family camping weekend back when my kids were small - my group of friends used to cheerfully cater for the ravenous under 10 early rising masses like this.

Then we'd individually buy nicer stuff, but yes, one family would volunteer to do the big cheap supermarket shop (& be let off a morning breakfast cook in exchange).

I think they fucked up the shopping, ie 6 relatively sophisticated adults in a holiday let =/= 20 hungry camping gremlins. They're maybe just not terribly bright.

Then realised from your reaction & your buggering off to get a cafe breakfast that you were unimpressed, were embarrassed, & festered until the booze came out.

I'd be concerned about the woman tbh. Sounds like she's married to an aggressive arse.

Ilovelurchers · 29/06/2024 22:54

I have read most of this thread, may have missed the odd post, and I must say it strikes me as strange over all, and the weirdest thing is how many of the posts focus on the nature of the food, what type of bread and coffee it was etc.....

THIS MAN PHYSICALLY ATTACKED OP'S PARTNER!!!!

I assume he wasn't badly hurt, or OP would have mentioned it, but fuck me, being attacked by people you have gone on holiday with is SERIOUSLY fucking extreme! (And I don't come from an especially sheltered background, believe me).

The fact they bought food OP doesn't like - inevitable when people are shopping with people they don't know. The failure to share alcohol - happens....

But punching your husband??? He"s lucky your husband didn't call the cops. And I am frankly AMAZED that he was still welcome at the birthday meal after this attack - I'd be very unhappy if my friends continued to socialise with somebody who had done this. Do they understand the extent of it, and that it was entirely unprovoked?

YellowAsteroid · 29/06/2024 22:50

And SIX packets of bacon for 2 meals for 6 people? When one of those people is vegetarian? So for breakfast 5 of them would have eaten over a packet each of bacon? That’s what 8 slices each per breakfast?

That couple were either stupid or - well, thick.

Riversideandrelax · 29/06/2024 22:33

letsgoooo · 29/06/2024 22:25

The food sounded nasty. I wouldn't have eaten it either.

I didn't want to offend but I just couldn't have eaten it!

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letsgoooo · 29/06/2024 22:31

Oldcroneandthreewitches · 28/06/2024 18:52

Was it an expensive bottle of spirit and you bought cheap wine?

If you tried reading you'd know it was the opposite.

letsgoooo · 29/06/2024 22:31

YabbaDabbaDooooo · 28/06/2024 18:52

This is one thread where I'd love to hear the other couple's version of events.

Plus even the OP doesn't know what was said among the men when they were getting drunk.

Disclaimer: I'm not saying the guy was right to clump the OP's husband.

But I do wonder why the other couple didn't insist they guy left instead of OP and her DH.

The op said the hosts were on her side, the partying stopped when the yob punched OPs dh and it was all a bit of a mess.

letsgoooo · 29/06/2024 22:29

OnePearlDreamer · 28/06/2024 18:39

It is easy to accuse other people of being tight if they have to be more careful with money than you. It is easy to be generous and spend money on others when you have the money.

It's easy to accuse other people of being somewhat unpleasant when they go around punching people.

letsgoooo · 29/06/2024 22:26

OnePearlDreamer · 28/06/2024 18:22

OP just admit it, you think you are superior to this other couple and the man in the couple got fed up of your husbands attitude.

Anyone who thinks punching someone because they are annoying them is a strange person to side with.

I guess you are that kind of a person

letsgoooo · 29/06/2024 22:25

YaWeeFurryBastard · 28/06/2024 18:20

You know what, I really tried not to 'turn my nose up at the food.' But I don't deny I was really shocked when they showed it to us so it may have shown on my face. But we didn't say anything negative about it. Thanked them for getting it. And quietly slipped off to get some breakfast in the morning.

You were really shocked by some white bread and crisps? Fucking hell, I’m a healthy eater but that’s incredibly precious and it would have really pissed me off.

The food sounded nasty. I wouldn't have eaten it either.

letsgoooo · 29/06/2024 22:24

OnePearlDreamer · 28/06/2024 18:16

Basically he was totally wrong to attack your DH. But you seem to have set yourself up as the generous ones - we just share everything, and not considered someone else's point of view. You agreed to the buying shared food, and then were not happy at what was bought, even though you had not communicated what you might want. You assumed his spirits were to share, even though he had not said it was to share.
There are a lot of assumptions, poor communication, and a sense of superiority that your way of doing things is the right way.

Pretty normal to assume everyone was sharing as a) the crazy couple came up with the idea of chipping in and buying food for everyone to share and b) crazy couple woman was happily drinking OPs wine so obviously was happy to be the recipient of sharing.

No reasonable person would conclude anything other than all the alcohol was being shared.

You are barmy if you think otherwise. Or obtuse

Riversideandrelax · 29/06/2024 22:22

YellowAsteroid · 29/06/2024 21:38

I'm not joking when I say there was about 12 packets of biscuits! 2 big packs of multipack crisps, I think. Maybe 3 packs of fairy cakes.

A couple of big packs of sausages (40 sausages in total!) . 2 big trays of caged hens eggs. 6 packs of bacon. 6 tins of baked beans. 4 loaves of bread. 2 big packs of sugary cereal. Big pack of teabags, big jar of instant coffee, big bottle of orange squash, 3 cartons of from concentrate orange juice. Pack of sugar, 6 pints of milk.

INSTANT coffee????? Good lord, they are tasteless grifters.

For 12 breakfasts (6 people twice) rough prices from my regular Sainsbury’s shop (prices from memory so rough estimates )

24 eggs: £8
packet of butter £3
packet of real coffee £7
two loaves unsliced rye bread or sour dough £6
12 tomatoes (I buy Sainsbury’s small salad toms, basic but good with eggs) £2
English breakfast loose tea £5
Milk 1litre £2
Jam £2
Fruit bananas, oranges £8 (at most)

Maybe £40 for the lot?

But instant coffee on holidays - bleurgh

Nothing I’ve listed is particularly fancy or snobbish. Just good plain relatively unprocessed food to make healthy but nice breakfasts

Maybe this couple have an eating problem as well, or are particularly boring people who spend their lives sitting around drinking cups of tea and eating biscuits. And PPs’ comments about the man’s violence over alcohol suggests a problem with alcohol.

Luckily, you’ll never have to see these low rent types again @Riversideandrelax

I like your list of food much better! I love sourdough rye!

You would think if this was their normal diet they'd be obese. They're not a slim couple but not obese either. I'm sure they planned to take lots home!

And the instant coffee was the cheapest kind going 🤮

OP posts:
Riversideandrelax · 29/06/2024 22:12

TheCultureHusks · 29/06/2024 20:49

And it’s not even hard to do that politely. ‘Oh that all looks lovely! Thanks but just to say I’m going to stick to my own beer/wine/gin and just use that myself if that’s ok, I don’t drink a lot so just brought my own supply’’

OP they sound like a pair of skanks. Horrible situation but with luck they’ll be drop kicked from the group now.

Yes, they've well and truly burned their bridges.

OP posts:
YellowAsteroid · 29/06/2024 21:38

I'm not joking when I say there was about 12 packets of biscuits! 2 big packs of multipack crisps, I think. Maybe 3 packs of fairy cakes.

A couple of big packs of sausages (40 sausages in total!) . 2 big trays of caged hens eggs. 6 packs of bacon. 6 tins of baked beans. 4 loaves of bread. 2 big packs of sugary cereal. Big pack of teabags, big jar of instant coffee, big bottle of orange squash, 3 cartons of from concentrate orange juice. Pack of sugar, 6 pints of milk.

INSTANT coffee????? Good lord, they are tasteless grifters.

For 12 breakfasts (6 people twice) rough prices from my regular Sainsbury’s shop (prices from memory so rough estimates )

24 eggs: £8
packet of butter £3
packet of real coffee £7
two loaves unsliced rye bread or sour dough £6
12 tomatoes (I buy Sainsbury’s small salad toms, basic but good with eggs) £2
English breakfast loose tea £5
Milk 1litre £2
Jam £2
Fruit bananas, oranges £8 (at most)

Maybe £40 for the lot?

But instant coffee on holidays - bleurgh

Nothing I’ve listed is particularly fancy or snobbish. Just good plain relatively unprocessed food to make healthy but nice breakfasts

Maybe this couple have an eating problem as well, or are particularly boring people who spend their lives sitting around drinking cups of tea and eating biscuits. And PPs’ comments about the man’s violence over alcohol suggests a problem with alcohol.

Luckily, you’ll never have to see these low rent types again @Riversideandrelax

TheCultureHusks · 29/06/2024 20:49

Riversideandrelax · 28/06/2024 17:42

That's fine, but I think when everyone else is sharing their alcohol you should make it clear you don't want to share. I mean there was plenty to go round, I personally find it quite miserly not to share. But if you don't want to then make it clear and don't share other people's things. The woman was happy to share my wine and they were both happy to share my nibbles.

And it’s not even hard to do that politely. ‘Oh that all looks lovely! Thanks but just to say I’m going to stick to my own beer/wine/gin and just use that myself if that’s ok, I don’t drink a lot so just brought my own supply’’

OP they sound like a pair of skanks. Horrible situation but with luck they’ll be drop kicked from the group now.

TheCultureHusks · 29/06/2024 20:46

MidnightPatrol · 28/06/2024 15:48

In my experience it’s best to be really, really clear on this kind of stuff before you go away with a group.

They sound irritating yes, but why did you feel you needed to leave?

Seems a shame to miss your friends birthday over it.

Wtf the guy physically attacked him?! What are you supposed to do after that, just start nodding and smiling and just go to the party together?

I’d have left too, the point is a celebration, that would be totally ruined and the whole thing incredibly awkward at best so what’s the point?

Riversideandrelax · 29/06/2024 20:39

MariaLuna · 29/06/2024 20:27

Why I love travelling alone. Have the best conversations with complete strangers.

Sounds like bliss compared to this! 😉

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