Biden Trump debate- they must get rid of Biden now?

Absolutely on the money about RBG - ironically too self-asorbed to protect her own legacy.
Lockdown persuaded most Western governments that they could impose whatever they liked on 'the peasants'.
Rishi looks very similar to John Major as a rabbit in the headlamps, Macron seems happy for his country to burn, the EU have just done their backroom deal over the top jobs and Biden's deficits appear to have come as a surprise to the Democrats. None of them seem to have a clue about optics or basic politics.
Newsom is compromised by lawlessness, homelessness and drug abuse in California, other potential candidates have their own vulnerabilities.
It's going to be a rough four or five years.

Trudeau represents liberal democracy?

Jeez Louise, he's at least as authoritarian a PM at Stephen Harper was. This is a guy who froze the bank accounts of protestors and stopped citizens from crossing internal.

Those are not "right wing" criticisms.

Reading a teleprompter?

https://time.com/6993607/could-democrats-replace-biden-nominee-explainer/

I just saw a clip of his campaign rally tonight and he's like a completely different person compared to last night. He was clear, eloquent and alert. I am confused by this! If he's capable of that, why did it not happen last night?

I won't post the link but it's on CNN's YouTube. It's very weird.

How has it come to this? Any reasonable Democrat candidate would beat Trump. Any reasonable Republican candidate would beat Biden. It's like both parties found their worst candidate and voters have to vote for the best of the worst.

But the people would have to vote him in for the nomination. It’s not like the UK system. At all. And how would a California Governor do in the Midwest and Southern swing states?

Does anyone remember when Rob Newman and David Baddiel used to do the History Today sketch? 'That's you, that is. That's your mum. Chinny reckon.' It reminded me of that.

Biden may be mentally competent and just increasingly frail but he needs to put politics, and particularly Ukraine, before his own career. Kamala Harris comes across as a complete lightweight. The Democrats should have been ruthless and preparing for a replacement well ahead of the election. It's the Ruth Bader-Ginsberg situation all over again. Of course she may have wanted to carry on serving for as long as she could but if she had been thinking strategically she should have retired while Obama could have secured a Democrat to replace her on the Supreme Court.

If big donors pull out, Biden won’t have much choice. It all comes down to money. Let’s be honest if he dies this summer, they’ll need another candidate too. Surely someone has thought of that possibility - you’d think they have one or two people warming up already just in case ... (Like that governor from California?)

We are utterly fucked now.

Thank you dad for being in the Resistance in WWII.

She won’t and I don’t believe senior democrats would advise this she already has enemies in Bidens team

another wife of an ex president and one with no political office experience

She is too smart and she would come under horrendous scrutiny

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She will be under pressure because the Democrats know that were she to throw her hat into the ring she would be immensely popular.

Why would Michelle Obama be under pressure she has no political experience in office

she is an extremely intelligent woman that is why she knows not to put herself forward

Biden isn’t stepping down sadly his family appears to support him. The best thing he has done for his country is beat Trump in 2020 the best thing he can do for his country now is step aside it’s like watching a slow car crash and there is four solid months of campaigning to go this can be turned around

My family in the states who support Biden are really worried the Trump supporters are celebrating

Biden today was using a teleprompter. Any fool can use one. It’s not the real Biden. Yesterday was the real one who will be woken up in the middle of the night to address some crisis.

Yes, USA sneezes, UK catches a cold.
USA burns . . . ?

FDR died in office in 1945 after being re-elected in 1944 in clearly poor health. But slightly different circumstances as it was the war, also he was 62 so a good deal younger than either of the present candidates.

Trump’s age is way down the list as to why he is unsuitable.

Also terrible optics for democrats if they pass her over but I pray they do.

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Michelle Obama has long said she doesn't want anything to do with running for public office herself. She would get my vote though

I imagine she is under intense pressure atm. The line will be its incumbent upon you to save Democracy in The USA.

I’d vote for her too, were I a US voter. Very smart person.

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I agree that they're not equivalent on a personal level, but their political CVs are identical: neither has been elected to anything “

Had Trump last time? I don’t think he had.

Michelle Obama has long said she doesn't want anything to do with running for public office herself. She would get my vote though.

Worth remembering Biden (81) is only 3.5 years older than Trump (78). So, if Biden’s too old, surely that means Trump is too?

Surely, it’s health rather than age that’s key. Though, every other US president has finished their term in their 50s or 60s, other than Reagan (77) and Eisenhower (70).

And any President can die in the job, whatever their age. As Joe Biden knows only too well, as do Caroline and Patrick Kennedy, death can happen at any age.

Loads of Americans hate Michelle. With a passion. It’s disgusting.

Odd thing to say...Kamala Harris really isn't very good but if Michelle Obama was the candidate being black and a woman would hardly be a disadvantage.

They have made it very difficult for themselves because Biden "owns" the delegates. There is no obvious way to get rid of him if he doesn't want to go.