Biden Trump debate- they must get rid of Biden now?

I have to say wonder would it happen. The older I get and the more I see, I think anything can happen tbh! It's scary.

@DanielGault I shouldn't have responded to that comment really because the poster sounded unhinged. It is what would theoretically happen though.

Read that back though, isn't it quite scary where you're considering the possibility of someone having to be ejected by the military?

What makes you think this?

Russia invaded Ukraine under Bidens watch
The Israel Palestine situation escalated under Bidens watch
The China Taiwan situation has been getting increasingly precarious under Bidens watch

There are a lot of reasons to dislike Trump and what he stands for but he is far better for keeping global stability.

I think they urgently need a new candidate and by refusing to stand down Biden is actually causing America real damage and I would say being ethically irresponsible. Simply on climate change, Trump can't be allowed to get in.

The US isn't a lawless free for all yet, there are still four year term limits and military will gladly eject him.

Even though they're traditionally Republican-leaning many of them strongly dislike Trump because he has zero respect for the chain of command, or indeed following any procedure.

I don't know if that's true now. 20 years ago maybe, but society has become so polarised now that it's pushed politics to the fringes.

See also: Nigel Farage getting so much airtime despite being an irrelevance in real terms.

Thing is I think he thinks he is doing a good job

Is he? Or are some unelected individuals behind him?

I didn’t realise Bernie Saunders was in his 80’s I heard him on a podcast a few months ago

I don’t think he would have been the answer

The New York Times are even calling for Biden to step down for the country

@Tracker1234
I agree and am sad to do so.
Someone seriously wanting to become the most powerful person in the world must either have an incredible ego behind their power lust or a more seemingly benevolent incredibly ego that they really be the best person to be the most powerful person in the world.

For those who are saying his rally speech was like a different person.

He was reading from a teleprompter using words someone else had written. They were good words but quite honestly if he couldn’t even read from a teleprompter he should be removed immediately.

Thing is I think he thinks he is doing a good job and who else would replace him (in his view there is no one else as suitable as him!)

Bernie’s a year older than Biden though…

It won’t just be 4 years if Trump wins, though. Do you honestly believe he’ll leave in 4 years? I can’t see it. We know who he is….he tried to pull this last time. Anyone who says that they can envision Trump quietly leaving office needs to give their head a wobble. He and his associates put their all between November 2020 - January 2021 into overturning the election. The guardrails held. Only just. Those who took their constitutional oaths seriously are gone now, replaced with loyalists. Lessons on why January 2021 failed have been learned. I don’t believe the guardrails will hold next time. What Trump said about Biden going to prison in the debate is frightening AF. The train is coming down the tracks and we’re just stood there watching it like a bunch of fucking idiots.

I think if they replace Biden, it would be smart to do so at the very last moment, considering the situation. There's no time for the new candidate to build up political loyalty with the electorate, no matter how good they are, so it would be wiser to rely on the "shock and relief" vote (i.e. "anyone but Trump" voters).

I don't think it is weird at all. That's a very typical presentation of the early stages of dementia. Completely lucid and themselves one day, but confused and disoriented the next day.

I'd be surprised if he's still alive after the 4 years are up.

Come on America, you can do better.

They literally can’t. That is what’s so odd.

Biden at a rally in North Carolina on Friday:

“I know I’m not a young man. I don’t walk as easily as I used to. I don’t talk as smoothly as I used to. I don’t debate as well as I used to,” Biden said.

“Well, I know what I do know. I know how to tell the truth. I know right from wrong. I know how to do this job. I know how to get things done. I know, like millions of Americans, when you get knocked down, you get back up.

“I know what it will take to bring this economy to everybody. I know what it’ll take to rally the world to stand up against Putin and defend freedom.

“And I know what it takes to keep the world safe and free for the years ahead. Folks, I give you my word as a Biden, I would not be running again if I didn’t believe, with all my heart and soul that I can do this job because, quite frankly, the stakes are too high.”

Major twist after Joe Biden’s trainwreck debate | news.com.au — Australia’s leading news site

That's maybe an idea though about the direction the Democrats need to go in - they need to appeal to the sc voter base that used to be theirs.

BS is really getting on, I don't know how his health is but he's not a better bet that way than Biden or Trump.

Also, he lost the nomination twice which isn't a great look.

That being said, at one time he might have been a good contender. Polling at the time suggested that had he run against Trump rather than HRC, he'd have wne. There is some real overlap between Sanders and Trump voters among the working classes.

If you've watched footage of him over the last couple of years you'll see he has times where he seems fine and others were he is disoriented and confused. There is some footage of him saying goodbye to his son after a visit that really looked like he had no idea who he was talking to or where he was. It was really sad. Hence the accusations of elder abuse.
I suspect he is heavily medicated, and ok with a teleprompter (although there was that time where he read out the the pause instruction), but generally he needs significant support. Jill coming out after the debate and congratulating him with 'you answered all the questions well done' felt like she was talking to a small child.

I am not sure about Gavin Newsom. He has a long history of public service, is good at getting his point across and in debates but he had governed California at a time when living standards have significantly dropped LA and SF are really really run down

Maybe too west coast

what’s happened to Bernie Saunders ? Not suggesting he should step in not sure he is the right person but was wondering why he hasn’t

I can't see the governor of California being a great choice, people are leaving California in droves, it's big cities are becoming unlivable.

The Democrats should have been thinking about who could run this time for years. Harris was never realistic, she is known to be an incompetent bully with an unlikable personality.

Trump, and the Republicans, have been eating into the Democrats core voting blocs more and more. They lost many Catholics, they've lost the (huge) Hispanic vote as a reliable block, and the young black male vote seems to be following - none of this should be surprising as this groups are typically more conservative than the average American. They need to find some who will appeal to centrists.

I don't think being black or a woman is particularly a barrier - there are lots of both holding elected offices in the US. Presidential nominations tend to weight toward the wealthy, so more are white as they are statistically more likely to be well off, but that's a correlation.

To me it looks very much like Biden has Parkinson's- the mask face, the gait, the slowness and rigidity, the falls and his voice changes( monotone, hoarseness,slurring, mumbling etc) all fit with the diagnosis and there seems to be some cognitive decline which could be Parkinson's dementia or Lewy body dementia. He seems much too frail for most jobs, let alone the leader of the USA.