Biden Trump debate- they must get rid of Biden now?

The problem with getting Biden to stand down is that Kamala Harris is not good enough to step up. It's like Veep IRL.

@Zanatdy he's not only mumbling . Have you watched any of it ?
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“We'd be able to wipe out” debt accumulated during Trump’s presidency, Biden said while speaking about his tax plans, before trailing off: “Making sure that we're able to make every single solitary person . . . eligible for what I've been able to do with the uh, with the COVID, excuse me, with um dealing with everything we have to do with uh. Look, if we finally beat Medicare.”
Doesn't sound too bad when you read it
But when you see or hear it , shocking

There's an explainer in The Times about potential routes to get rid of Biden

https://www.thetimes.com/article/caf254bf-9c19-4428-8e13-09cf945b9757?shareToken=d880728d59016ff9d74d67cee87e9bca

@Aladdinzane are you not concerned if he seems slow and uncertain now, how much worse he'll be in a couple of years time?

I have no love for Trump which is why I deeply want the Democrats to choose someone feasible to govern their country.

Trumps not that much younger ,it's ridiculous both of them are standing

Even his own team can see the issue

Biden must be just a puppet ruler surely as he's remained in power despite such a visible decline in his cognitive and physical condition. He's an easy person to control.

yeah, but we all know Trump lies and is a criminal narcissist. That's not an issue, it's an obvious. . What we are discussing is how JB possible can't present a reasonable alternative. Discussing that with concern ... precisely because Trump is who he is.

He won’t start the war, true. He told us that he will pull all US funding for Ukraine. Which guarantees a Putin victory. What are the geopolitical ramifications of a Putin victory? This is what people are concerned about.

Trump is just awful

Bidens age is an issue because it is a very demanding job that needs a person who can make critical decisions- and he comes across as too infirm to do this

They are both terrible options.

I think it’s very hard to unseat an existing president. The democrats had an unpalatable choice - a bloody battle which would have given the Republicans a gift or try and soldier on. They clearly went for the soldier on approach and crossed their fingers and it hasn’t worked.
It will all come down to the democrat donors - if they say he needs to stand down, then it will happen.

Yes, Trump lied through his teeth on several matters and took everything back to immigration.

Biden sounds old, but made some good points.

The hysteria is a bit much.

She's a women and mixed race ,if Hilary Clinton couldn't get elected i think KH stands little chance sadly .

It’s never been done before. It would take something pretty extreme for the majority of states to overturn a free and fair election result. If states won’t even do it now that one of the nominees has 34 felonies under his belt, what makes you think they’ll do it because one of the nominees is “too old”?

Did you listen to the debate?

I can't stand Trump. But why would war be guaranteed? He didn't bring war last time did he?
Trump is all about money. Wars are very expensive. It would mean the US raising federal taxes and spending billions, which is pretty much the opposite of what Trump is about.

He's a sleaze bag, and there are many reasons to attack him, but I don't think this alarmist war narrative is accurate or helpful.

It’s uncomfortable watching for sure. How has America come to this? Elder abuse v pandering to a known criminal narcissist? A country with so much talent and some of the best universities in the world? They have turned themselves into a joke on the world stage. Scary times.

There were 4 candidates put to the public on the 2024 Democratic Primary Election ballot:
Joe Biden
Marianne Williamson
Jason Palmer
Dean Phillips

Joe Biden won.

No comment here that Trump told lies repeatedly throughout?

Just "Biden is old"

FFS

There is, apparently, a mechanism for the states to withdraw their primary votes and reassign them to another candidate.

I doubt it would come to that. I expect he'll have withdrawn by this time next week.

I can't find good highlights, they're all way too edited. Anyone find anything?

Re: the video, elderly people often have poor night vision, so it's not surprising he needed a hand on the stairs - the lights went down fairly quickly so his eyes would take a while to adjust.

I agree that both candidates are too old though, it's genuinely concerning that these are apparently the best the USA can offer.

It's absolutely ridiculous that Biden is standing to be president. He needs to step aside. He's not capable.

It wouldn't surprise me if he died of "natural causes" sometime before the election if he doesn't step aside.

Kamala is unpopular. I've heard Gavin Newsom, governor of California, mentioned as a possible replacement but he may be perceived as too left wing.

How could they not have predicted this? The democrats should have made Biden stand down way before it got to this stage. They're condemning the world to another 4 years of Trump.

He wasn't just mumbly though, he really was not sharp at all. I hate saying it but I really do think he's just too old.

It’s very sad to see and there is four months of campaigning ahead of him he just isn’t up to it, questions was asked about his age in 2020 but looking back he was far more articulate he didn’t look so frail and confused

Biden needs to do the best for the country and that is to step down but his ego has not allowed him to surely those around him need to be honest

Trump looked in control and he knew it