Biden Trump debate- they must get rid of Biden now?

Which is why it is so bad he was up against Biden. You have to be pretty terrible if you come out of a debate making Trump look good.

The Democrats have brought this all on themselves.. shame on them. Trump will win after that debate. I know there is another one nearer Nov but does anyone think its going to be any better? No notes, no teleprompter for either of them and Bieden was a sad pitful figure.

As comedian Michelle Wolf said about the Democratic Party, “you guys always find a way to mess it up. You're somehow gonna lose by 12 points to a guy named Jeff Paedophile Nazi-Doctor.”

Lincoln (and slave owning racist tyrants like jefferson, washington and co.) would be spinning in their grave at the thought of a black woman holding a position they did.

Quoting Lincoln, 1858 speech during the Lincoln and Douglas debates:

"I am not, nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people. I as much as any man am in favor of the superior position assigned to the white race."

Um? Have you seen the fact check on Trumps speech? Just because someone speaks louder than someone else and shouts doesn’t mean he is speaking truth. I encourage you to Google fact check on trumps and Bidens speech. Everything trump says is a lie and your country will apparently elect him 🤣

It is very hard to climb the greasy pile of politics without dirty tricks and deals

Indeed, and that's one more reason people with real integrity will go nowhere near it, leaving Americans with the appalling choice they've got

And we thought the choice was bad in the UK

Slightly confused!! He was more than that. He can barely walk and needs helping down TWO steps by his wife!!

He needs to go - maybe not to a care home but to a place where he can relax and take his foot off the accelerator.

There is something in between a care home and being President of the United States!!

Urgh so a man was slightly confused but still more articulate that his counterpart. But we need to vote for the lying misogynist criminal apparently. Bring on the Handmaids tale ladies, praise be America that’s what your in for. Can’t wait 🙄 Interested to ask trump how you can abort a baby after third term birth 🤣🤣

Oh come on! This is the Democratic Party. One of the few things you can rely on in politics is that if there's a serious political decision to be made, the Democrats will call it wrong.

the only person who can counter the existential threat to democracy which is Trump

If anything thinks that, then they are a fool. There are thousands of Americans who could have trounced Trump in the debate. But they don’t hold the money needed to get elected. It just comes down to money.

Some Trump supporters, liked his economy and secure US-Mexico border.

Indeed. You wouldn't get our politicians undermining the judiciary. Oh, hang on.

I hope you are at least smart enough to be paid for such propaganda, but I doubt it.

I'm not a fan of either but some of Biden's dodgy dealings over the decades are not hard to find. It is very hard to climb the greasy pile of politics without dirty tricks and deals.

Not everything we disagree with is 'Russian propaganda or bots'.

I hope you are at least smart enough to be paid for such propaganda, but I doubt it.

Biden isn't and never has been that noble, or noble at all actually. He's an egotistical fraud as bad if not worse than the Clintons.

He's not there out of a sense of duty, he's there out of a sense of entitlement.

Spot on, luckylavender
Only a fool would think Trump some kind of statesman, but he almost looks like one in comparison and that's very dangerous when appearance has come to mean so much

@leakysqueaky

"That isn't what I was saying. I commented in response to a PP who said that Kamala could never get in as 'America wasn't ready for a black female leader'"

I agree - Kamala would not get elected because she is viewed (rightly or wrongly) by the majority of US voters as not capable and too far to the left. Her skin colour is irrelevant to this.

And to reinforce the point that skin colour is irrelevant, Michelle Obama is viewed by the majority of US voters (rightly or wrongly) as much more credible.

I know that, but it's clearly quite an important position. One that requires the office holder to be compis mentis at least. Or not a felon.

I agree that they're not equivalent on a personal level, but their political CVs are identical: neither has been elected to anything ever.

That isn't what I was saying. I commented in response to a PP who said that Kamala could never get in as 'America wasn't ready for a black female leader'.

My point was that America might be ready for a 'black female leader' if she was the right, experienced leader. I don't think Kamala is that person.

I wasn't saying that Michelle Obama was the only credible alternative to Biden. The context of my post says that.

I think Biden has been someone’s puppet for some time.

He resigned though. Due to committing crimes. Biden never said he wouldn’t complete his full term.

NotDavidTennant
It's equivalent to saying that the only way the Conservatives can be saved is by replacing Rishi Sunak with Samantha Cameron.“

It isn’t and that’s doing a huge disservice to Michelle Obama. Their CVs are incomparable.

Hardly!

Academic anyway as she has made it very clear she doesn't want to go into politics.

I do think it shows what a sorry state the Democrats are in that the only alternative to Biden anyone can put forward is Michelle Obama.

It's equivalent to saying that the only way the Conservatives can be saved is by replacing Rishi Sunak with Samantha Cameron.