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Biden Trump debate- they must get rid of Biden now?

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molotovcupcakes · 28/06/2024 07:10

Biden looked so frail and incoherant at times that this must be the end of his Presidency very soon.
How have the Democrats not faced this sooner and selected someone else, I don't understand why they have let this go on for so long.
He had to be helped off the stage by his wife and it seems like elder abuse.

www.politico.com/video/2024/06/28/jill-biden-escorts-joe-biden-off-stage-after-first-presidential-debate-1346575

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YankTank · 28/06/2024 12:52

Exactlab · 28/06/2024 12:50

So many Democrats and republicans need to be in retirement homes. They aren’t physically, mentally or morally competent to lead.

Mitch McConnell, par example?

Exactlab · 28/06/2024 12:50

BloodyHellKenAgain · 28/06/2024 12:46

Obviously.
I'm not a Trump supporter FGS, I'm just stating the obvious. Joe Biden should have stood down at the start of the campaign so the Democrats could get a more credible candidate to up against Trump (who imo isn't looking particularly chipper either).

So many Democrats and republicans need to be in retirement homes. They aren’t physically, mentally or morally competent to lead.

Exactlab · 28/06/2024 12:49

I agree. But I also don’t think Trump is fit for office either. I’m not even touching on his mental competency but he has faecal incontinence. Something which has been spoken about over the years but became well known during his recent trial.

I think the US is broken. I’ve no idea who is running the country as Biden can’t hide his dementia any more. It’s like Weekend at Bernie’s.

I wonder how different the US would be if Al Gore became President all those years ago. Or if instead of Trump and Clinton vying for the Presidency - it was Cruz and Sanders.

BloodyHellKenAgain · 28/06/2024 12:46

freshbluesnow · 28/06/2024 10:14

Well, it's a big head start on a man who is not morally up to the job, and who suggested injecting disinfectant might be a good solution for covid.

Obviously.
I'm not a Trump supporter FGS, I'm just stating the obvious. Joe Biden should have stood down at the start of the campaign so the Democrats could get a more credible candidate to up against Trump (who imo isn't looking particularly chipper either).

TheKeatingFive · 28/06/2024 12:40

Maddy70 · 28/06/2024 12:38

Karmela needs to take over. Hes gifting this to Trump

That would simply be a different way of gifting it to Trump

Maddy70 · 28/06/2024 12:38

Karmela needs to take over. Hes gifting this to Trump

ActivePeony · 28/06/2024 12:37

dragonmumof2 · 28/06/2024 12:10

I'm expecting him to die of "natural causes" in the next few months.

Hmmmm....🤔

dougalfromthemagicroundabout · 28/06/2024 12:37

I don't think age is the issue. I do know a couple of 80 year olds who are sharp as a tack and would be able to do the job of president, yes it gets less likely that you're in good health as people age, but if people are in good health they shouldn't be banned.

Trump's a narcissist and an idiot but he was forceful and as coherent as he's ever been in his speech during the debate.

It's not about age it's about fitness, and Biden is clearly not fit to be President any more.

YankTank · 28/06/2024 12:36

ActivePeony · 28/06/2024 12:35

This has been an abusive situation for ages but not so long ago you were a bigot, fascist, Trump lover if you pointed this out.
He has been a shit president who pissed away women's rights on his first day on office. Harris cannot step up as she is incredibly unpopular and also shit.

How did he piss away womens’ rights?

ActivePeony · 28/06/2024 12:36

dougalfromthemagicroundabout · 28/06/2024 12:34

There is a big difference between his performance and him being medically incompetent. I know as have family members with dementia. He is far, far away from someone registering power of attorney for him.

But he definitely shouldn't be President of the USA.

I too have family members with dementia and I completely disagree with you.

EasternStandard · 28/06/2024 12:36

ActivePeony · 28/06/2024 12:35

This has been an abusive situation for ages but not so long ago you were a bigot, fascist, Trump lover if you pointed this out.
He has been a shit president who pissed away women's rights on his first day on office. Harris cannot step up as she is incredibly unpopular and also shit.

Yeh there might have been some head in the sand over his decline

ActivePeony · 28/06/2024 12:35

This has been an abusive situation for ages but not so long ago you were a bigot, fascist, Trump lover if you pointed this out.
He has been a shit president who pissed away women's rights on his first day on office. Harris cannot step up as she is incredibly unpopular and also shit.

dougalfromthemagicroundabout · 28/06/2024 12:34

AInightingale · 28/06/2024 12:27

There are several months to go before the new Presidential term begins. People are saying there has been a dramatic decline even since March of this year. He can't possibly stand in November, surely? Four years of this? If he was an ordinary Joe, family would be registering power of attorney by now, not handing over the nuclear codes.

There is a big difference between his performance and him being medically incompetent. I know as have family members with dementia. He is far, far away from someone registering power of attorney for him.

But he definitely shouldn't be President of the USA.

hastalav · 28/06/2024 12:34

The poem "Sailing to Byzantium" by WB Yeats comes to mind -

"That is no country for old men"

Are the youth of America disengaged from politics? Maybe SM and making money, influencing etc. has taken over their lives I don't know, but you rarely see anyone under 30 amongst the "suits" surrounding the candidates (mostly men) really. That is an issue too. The country is being led by a generation that has little connection with those coming up behind them.

A future President could be Taylor Swift or similar. Yes I know Ronald Reagan was an actor, but still.

Maybe America is just doomed and no one cares anymore except about themselves.

Just musing to myself. I could be totally wrong about it all.

AInightingale · 28/06/2024 12:27

There are several months to go before the new Presidential term begins. People are saying there has been a dramatic decline even since March of this year. He can't possibly stand in November, surely? Four years of this? If he was an ordinary Joe, family would be registering power of attorney by now, not handing over the nuclear codes.

EasternStandard · 28/06/2024 12:25

dragonmumof2 · 28/06/2024 12:10

I'm expecting him to die of "natural causes" in the next few months.

Blimey. I think there are easier ways than what you might be suggesting

oakleaffy · 28/06/2024 12:23

molotovcupcakes · 28/06/2024 07:12

Was that link ''Silent?''- I couldn't hear a single thing, yet saw a frail Biden be escorted off {stage?}

Very worrying...It's as if he's a Puppet at the moment.

How on earth was Biden voted in with his cognitive issues?

Trump is ghastly, there HAS to be a better candidate, surely.

labamba007 · 28/06/2024 12:11

shearwater2 · 28/06/2024 07:24

I don't understand why Kamala Harris couldn't run. Why are these dreadful old gimmers in line to run the most powerful country on earth? Trump is also too old and a convicted felon. It's all so fucked up.

Unfortunately, opinion polls show people don't like her. Biden actually has more of a chance...which is depressing.

dragonmumof2 · 28/06/2024 12:10

I'm expecting him to die of "natural causes" in the next few months.

Bunnycat101 · 28/06/2024 12:10

He and his team should have had the sense to step down and let someone else take a shot. Even if he wasn’t declining now (which he obviously is) there was always going to be a roll of the dice re his health over the next 5 years.

As much as there are lots of very elderly people doing amazing things, these jobs are incomparable in terms of stress and the toll they will be taking. Just look at Blair at the start and end of his term re what it does to you re ageing.

ImCamembertTheBigCheese · 28/06/2024 12:02

No way, they didn't get rid of Reagan.

Sloejelly · 28/06/2024 12:02

It would be easier to speak out if he wasn’t president as any suggestions that he is not up to it obviously raises questions over his current presidency.

Sloejelly · 28/06/2024 12:00

They know he has to go I just wish someone with authority and influence would say this but they are all holding back and what for a sense of loyalty I really do not get this how it has got to this point

Biden is the sitting president, leader of the Democratic Party and only democratic candidate following the democratic primaries. The only person who has authority to stop him standing would be doctors who would have to state he didn’t have capacity and that would mean he would have to be removed as President now. Anyone senior who speaks up against him will be throwing themselves under the bus. It would be interesting to see if anyone is prepared to do that.

Notonthestairs · 28/06/2024 11:59

Stowickthevast · 28/06/2024 11:26

@FOJN true about Gavin Newsome, but at least he would be able to be articulate against Trump. One of the issues last night is that Biden was saying that Trump was lying, but then not following up with specific examples of what the truth was.

@Notonthestairs this CSIS analysis is an alternative view re Taiwan https://www.csis.org/analysis/how-china-could-quarantine-taiwan-mapping-out-two-possible-scenarios

The EU has stepped up pressure a bit too in its latest package of Russia sanctions by sanctioning Chinese companies. Again this is adjacent but it's all related.

Thanks @Stowickthevast - the article is fascinating.

brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr · 28/06/2024 11:58

Can we have someone under the age of 45 ?

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