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Dutch Volleyball player who raped 12-year-old British girl qualifies for Paris Olympics

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MidnightPatrol · 27/06/2024 12:20

A beach volleyball player who was jailed for raping a 12-year-old British girl is set to represent the Netherlands at the Paris Olympics.

Steven van de Velde, now 29, was sentenced to four years in prison in 2016 after admitting three counts of rape against a child, which took place in August 2014.

He was allowed to serve his sentence in the Netherlands but was released after just 12 months.

The Dutch Olympic Committee (NOC) told BBC Sport: "After his release, Van de Velde sought and received professional counselling. He demonstrated to those around him - privately and professionally - self-insight and reflection."

The International Olympic Committee (IOC) said the nomination of individual team members is "the sole responsibility of each respective National Olympic Committee".

https://www.bbc.com/sport/articles/c511yz5ze18o

Should this mean be allowed to compete in the Olympics, given his crimes?

Steven van de Velde

Olympics 2024: Convicted rapist Steven van de Velde to compete in volleyball in Paris - BBC Sport

Dutchman Steven van de Velde, who was sentenced to four years in prison for the rape of a 12-year-old British girl, is set to compete in the Paris Olympics.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/articles/c511yz5ze18o.amp

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LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 27/06/2024 20:47

MrsTerryPratchett · 27/06/2024 20:45

How do visas for the Olympic Games work? Could the UK refuse him, based on him being a convicted sex offender who has travelled to commit offences? In which case, who do we email?

Well the olympics is in Paris, he is a Dutch passport holder, both are in Schengen/eu so no visa is required.

why would the uk be able to block someone going to Paris?

MrsTerryPratchett · 27/06/2024 20:46

MrsTerryPratchett · 27/06/2024 20:45

How do visas for the Olympic Games work? Could the UK refuse him, based on him being a convicted sex offender who has travelled to commit offences? In which case, who do we email?

Sorry French durr. I wonder if because it's the EU it's different.

MrsTerryPratchett · 27/06/2024 20:45

How do visas for the Olympic Games work? Could the UK refuse him, based on him being a convicted sex offender who has travelled to commit offences? In which case, who do we email?

Hazyjaneishere · 27/06/2024 20:44

It’s worse than this, he groomed her on Facebook then travelled to the uk to meet a 12 year old, he knew her age, he was 19, he got her drunk and raped her. She’s self harmed and had mental health crisis. He says he’s ‘not a monster’. He effing well is!! He should be in prison still.

Tarquina · 27/06/2024 20:44

I'm so shocked that a man who definitely did a rape and even admitted it and a little child where he drugged her and left her with trauma etc only served 12 months in prison?

That's absolutely ridiculous! You know in the Victorian times a man could be hanged for raping a child of 12.

Chickenuggetsticks · 27/06/2024 20:43

I think the safety of children whether they are British, Dutch, Thai, Pakistan, Samoan etc should be everyones concern. No 12yr old anywhere in the world should have that happen to them.

He shouldn’t be there and I’m pretty disgusted that the Dutch sporting authorities thought he was a good representative of his country.

CountFucula · 27/06/2024 20:36

@LiquoriceAllsorts2 Yes agree - but countries generally manage to overlook stuff when they want to win - this being a case in point.

DanielGault · 27/06/2024 20:36

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 27/06/2024 20:34

But some countries probably class people being gay as sex offenders so I am not sure it’s easy to set blanket rules like that

Eugh, you're right there.

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 27/06/2024 20:34

CountFucula · 27/06/2024 20:05

The Olympics should have a code of ethics … a regulated and firm code of ethics and ‘convicted sex offenders’ would be an obvious infringement. Possibly they can usually rely on countries to self regulate as they wouldn’t want their home country being brought into disrepute. Not the case for the Netherlands 😳

But some countries probably class people being gay as sex offenders so I am not sure it’s easy to set blanket rules like that

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Spot the male poster Hmm

DanielGault · 27/06/2024 20:22

MrsTerryPratchett · 27/06/2024 20:17

'Nevobo and the Dutch NOC said in a statement that they supported van de Velde, adding that they, along with the FIVB, had consulted experts who considered his chance of recidivism “nil.”'

Thick as fucking mince. Sex offending has the highest recidivism rates with the lowest conviction rates. Not only is the chance of recidivism high, the chances of him getting away with it are high too.

Tempted to buy tickets to go and boo the shitty arsehole.

Is that the sports organisations bestowing their knowledge about paedophilia on us there? When you think about these competitions, there are v young girls floating around for gymnastics etc. it's clear you can't have a child rapist anywhere near them. Nobody is protecting them 😞

MrsTerryPratchett · 27/06/2024 20:17

'Nevobo and the Dutch NOC said in a statement that they supported van de Velde, adding that they, along with the FIVB, had consulted experts who considered his chance of recidivism “nil.”'

Thick as fucking mince. Sex offending has the highest recidivism rates with the lowest conviction rates. Not only is the chance of recidivism high, the chances of him getting away with it are high too.

Tempted to buy tickets to go and boo the shitty arsehole.

AthenaBasil · 27/06/2024 20:14

It’s not surprised the Olympics don’t have any code of ethics especially around women. They’re so out of touch.

Jc2001 · 27/06/2024 20:09

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Bloody hell are you for real?

In August 2014, he raped a 12-year-old child he met on Facebook who lived in Milton Keynes, England. He travelled to her home and, when she was without any parental supervision, gave her alcohol and then raped her several times at the home as well as in a nearby lake.[5] The victim would eventually go on to self-harm and once overdosed.[6] Van de Velde returned to the Netherlands after the rape, although he was eventually extradited to the United Kingdom and arrested in January 2016.[7]
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It's everyone's fucking business.

SureJanOK · 27/06/2024 20:05

Yeah I'm annoyed at the Netherlands' rape laws. Esp given they have (imho) good, liberal laws re assisted dying.

DanielGault · 27/06/2024 20:05

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 27/06/2024 20:00

I see that it is difficult for the olympics to get involved. Lots of people have committed what are considered serious crimes in their own country which I (and many others ) don’t see as a crime. For example, being gay/talking out against the government etc. I think it’s fair that the Olympic committee doesn’t get involved.

I am very disappointed in the Netherlands but I already was anyway with their rape laws. Sex without consent was recently made a crime, but still isn’t considered rape.

Didn't they ban Russia when they invaded Ukraine? Fairly quick sharp.

CountFucula · 27/06/2024 20:05

The Olympics should have a code of ethics … a regulated and firm code of ethics and ‘convicted sex offenders’ would be an obvious infringement. Possibly they can usually rely on countries to self regulate as they wouldn’t want their home country being brought into disrepute. Not the case for the Netherlands 😳

TooBigForMyBoots · 27/06/2024 20:04

YANBU @MidnightPatrol. I am disgusted at the decision by the Dutch committee to put him on the team and I fear for any children he ends up coaching in the future.Angry

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 27/06/2024 20:00

SureJanOK · 27/06/2024 16:08

This unrepentant rapist should still be in jail
I'm very surprised and disappointed in his country and the Olympics
If I was on the right continent I'd go and protest
Poor girl will be traumatised seeing him on tv etc

I see that it is difficult for the olympics to get involved. Lots of people have committed what are considered serious crimes in their own country which I (and many others ) don’t see as a crime. For example, being gay/talking out against the government etc. I think it’s fair that the Olympic committee doesn’t get involved.

I am very disappointed in the Netherlands but I already was anyway with their rape laws. Sex without consent was recently made a crime, but still isn’t considered rape.

SureJanOK · 27/06/2024 16:08

This unrepentant rapist should still be in jail
I'm very surprised and disappointed in his country and the Olympics
If I was on the right continent I'd go and protest
Poor girl will be traumatised seeing him on tv etc

LiquoriceAllsorts2 · 27/06/2024 15:02

ricestardust · 27/06/2024 14:26

Having briefly googled the case, he was extradited to the UK for the court case and then transferred back to the Netherlands. From an online article: "The sentence was also adjusted to the standards of Dutch law." He was 19 at the time and the age of consent appears to be the same in both countries. Evidently, there is a vast difference between the two legal systems.

Until very recently sex without consent was not a crime in the Netherlands. For it to be rape it has to be violent.

the Dutch olympics authority seem to be ok with it on the basis that he was convicted under English law (suggesting they don’t see him as having done anything wrong).

its disgusting but so are the Dutch rape law.

BringMeTea · 27/06/2024 14:54

I guess the 10% gives you an idea of the number of incels/mras squatting round here. Sad fuckers.

BlusteryLake · 27/06/2024 14:46

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What a truly asinine comment. Did you actually engage any kind of brain cells before typing?

SchoolQuestionnaire · 27/06/2024 14:44

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I’m sure his victim, a British child, disagrees.

toastofthetown · 27/06/2024 14:42

I don’t want him at the Olympics, but I don’t think that it’s the IOC’s responsibility to manage who each country sends. There were over 11,000 athletes sent to Tokyo and the IOC doesn’t have the time or resources to do a background check on all of them, in the weeks they have available to do it. The IOC are also an organisation who are largely seen as corrupt and useless and giving them more power isn’t a move which I think most would support.

This is all on the NOC, and I think the full support they are putting behind someone who travelled countries to get a child drunk and rape her is shameful. As is the athlete’s statement that we can’t judge as we don’t know his side of the story. I’m perfectly happy to judge him (and also his wife who is a German volleyball player and police officer and married him after this happened).

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