Covid positive

It's not about being "for themselves." I think most people care if someone becomes seriously ill. But it just isn't reasonable to expect that people will forego a much-needed holiday when they feel well enough to go, in case someone vulnerable is on the plane or in the same hotel. I'm afraid that COVID just is part of life now and it is for those with vulnerabilities to decide what they feel comfortable doing. Why should the person with mild COVID symptoms miss out so that someone else doesn't have to? I'm fed up with people pushing the narrative that those who are choosing to live their lives are somehow awful and selfish and don't care about others. Most people care, but COVID is as much a part of our existence now as flu or norovirus or the common cold and we simply have to live with it, with the onus being on those who may become more ill from it to make their decisions accordingly.

I'm not calling anyone a nerd, just pointing out what the advice is. Nobody tests to see whether they have flu or any other routine bug that's circulating in the community.

I didn't go 'tits mental' for lockdown either.* I just followed the advice at the time as I do now. The situation has changed and so the advice has changed. My attitude remains the same: I am guided by public health experts who have made a career of determining the appropriate steps non-expert members of the public (like me) should adopt.

*Not sure what this means. Are tits particularly mental? It doesn't sound very complimentary though.

People who did not go tits mental for lockdown (all three of us) are entitled to do as we please now, though.

It annoys me how everyone went tits mental for lockdown and are now all "why would you even TEST, nerd". Arseholes the lot of them.

In those very particular circumstances, I would go, masked and sit outside on deck on the ferry, but I can and have cancelled holidays before when one of us was unwell and clearly infectious. We do still test in my family and I had COVID 6 weeks ago so stayed at home. It was the most unwell I have felt for some time , and not improved by the fact that I had it twice in a couple of months.

To quote the Spartans' laconic response to Philip II of Macedon: "If".

I'm fully aware that if you or your child have tested positive for COVID-19 then all those advice points follow. But why would you test positive when you're neither advised to test nor given test kits any more?

If I was well enough to travel I would.

I am ill now, possibly Covid but I am out of tests. I couldn’t get on a plane today.

I only test before visiting my very elderly grandmother (97) in her care home as she is incredibly vulnerable. We aren’t required to but most relatives are. And we obviously don’t go anyway with symptoms.

Yes but I'd wear a mask just in airport, flight etc

If you read further on the same page

If you or your child have tested positive for COVID-19:

1. try to stay at home and avoid contact with other people for 3 days after the day the test was taken if you or your child are under 18 years old – children and young people tend to be infectious to other people for less time than adults
2. try to stay at home and avoid contact with other people for 5 days after the day you took your test if you are 18 years old or over
3. avoid meeting people who are more likely to get seriously ill from viruses, such as people with a weakened immune system, for 10 days after the day you took your test

If she was asymptomatic on the Sunday she wouldn't know if that was day one or whether been positive days earlier 🤷‍♀️ if she's worried she could test again but highly unlikely to be contagious if not sneezing and coughing. Wearing a mask if in close contact with others would reduce the probability of infecting anyone further if she's worried.

It's not just that you aren't obliged to test for COVID though. You aren't even advised to test, unless you're a vulnerable person who might be eligible for treatment if the test result is positive.

The advice is here: https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/covid-19/covid-19-symptoms-and-what-to-do/

It does seem a bit circular, in that you're only advised to self-isolate (or rather, "try" to) if you have a temperature or feel too unwell to do normal stuff anyway!

You are not mandated by law to test for covid , just you are not mandated to test for tb , measles , mumps but they are legally notifiable diseases.

just because you don’t , legally, have to do something doesn’t mean it’s not the morally right thing to do or even the responsible thing to do.

Sure, but you are also now not required to test, so it is negated.

This.

I certainly wouldn't be exposing others. It's not a cold for many. People still die from it.

Actually government advice is
If you or your child have tested positive for COVID-19:

1. try to stay at home and avoid contact with other people for 3 days after the day the test was taken if you or your child are under 18 years old – children and young people tend to be infectious to other people for less time than adults
2. try to stay at home and avoid contact with other people for 5 days after the day you took your test if you are 18 years old or over
3. avoid meeting people who are more likely to get seriously ill from viruses, such as people with a weakened immune system, for 10 days after the day you took your test

There is no such thing as an isolation period for anyone else. It might be a work thing. She's not working.

If she feels well she should travel.

I would.

The world didn't stop to protect the vulnerable, we were all stuck at home shielding. It stopped to protect the nhs