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To let you know there is a serious whooping cough outbreak in the UK?

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Overnightoats1 · 26/06/2024 06:39

Just returned from the GP with my 12 year old DS.. I wasn't aware but there is a really bad whooping cough outbreak so thought sharing the symptoms may help other parents. Apparently the vaccine stops working effectively at about 10 years old so they are seeing a huge rise during this outbreak in 10-15 year olds. Its also really important to start antibiotics ASAP within the first week or so to prevent the spread in your home as it's caused by bacteria.
For us it seemed like a typical cold - low grade fever, congestion, runny nose that improved within 3 days but then the awful cough started. He is generally okay between coughs but the cough's are so violent they have made him get sick a few times and he battles to breathe during them gasping for air with the gasping whoop sound -he also coughs up this horrible clear stringy mucous. Luckily we have antibiotics now but it's definitely something that should be on every parent's radar right now as it's so contagious and very dangerous for pregnant unvaccinated women and unvaccinated smaller children - plus really awful for the kids with it. I didn't even think of whooping cough as assumed my DC would be okay as all vaccinated. Hope this helps someone!

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Berga · 26/06/2024 20:03

Riversideandrelax · 26/06/2024 18:45

I think the whole 'whoop' thing confuses things. Most people do not make a 'whoop' sound. But then people think they don't have it if they don't 'whoop'.

I wish I didn't have the whoop, for me it's the worst bit of it, struggling to get your breath in.

Mumtobabyhavoc · 26/06/2024 19:22

We could be having the same conversation about covid, flu, common cold, RSV and a host of other diseases which are preceded by what seems like "just a cold" as runny nose, fatigue and mild cough are the start of a lot of more serious illnesses. At the end of the day staying home when ill, wearing a mask if needing to go out and seeing the doctor if it's not improving or worsening are still basic actions to take.

Riversideandrelax · 26/06/2024 18:45

RafaistheKingofClay · 26/06/2024 10:19

It’s been known for a while. Natural immunity from whooping cough wears off after a similar period of time. I think during the last outbreak they offered boosters to teens. Or they added it to the vaccine schedule.

8 babies have died since January. It’s really really important that pregnant women take the vaccine offered if possible. It’s the only way to protect very small babies and as adults and older children don’t tend to whoop they may not realise they have whooping cough.

I think the whole 'whoop' thing confuses things. Most people do not make a 'whoop' sound. But then people think they don't have it if they don't 'whoop'.

Riversideandrelax · 26/06/2024 18:41

Luddite26 · 26/06/2024 10:39

Yes and not really their fault because it was eradicated and now it's back. But still not the first thing people expect.

To my mind if there's a large outbreak of such a contagious illness then they should know.

Riversideandrelax · 26/06/2024 18:37

Kitkat1523 · 26/06/2024 11:03

Except you don’t know if he recovered quicker ….cos you don’t know what he would have been like without them …yeh? …..not everyone gets the same severity of coughing or duration…. It certainly isn’t a case of once your airways are damaged it’s too late ….that’s bollocks

No. I'm a nurse, I am aware of how the disease works. Yeh? Once your airways are damaged the antibiotics will not have an effect on the duration of the cough.

Mumtobabyhavoc · 26/06/2024 18:27

Soubriquet · 26/06/2024 17:58

He did have the vaccine after he was born, and the booster for the pre-school ones.

Plus I was vaccinated during pregnancy to so theoretically he should be covered till he’s 13/14

I think it would be prudent to see the doctor.

Vettrianofan · 26/06/2024 18:21

DS was swabbed and given antibiotics. No idea if he definitely has WC or not.

5twomany · 26/06/2024 18:21

My daughter 9 has whooping cough at the moment she has had the antibiotics and its not too bad luckily
The cough itself is horrible her trying to catch her breath inbetween is horrible to watch but for her it mostly affects her at night she hardly coughs during the day
When i took her to the doctor i said it can't be whooping cough as she is vaccinated but i didn't realise that the vaccine can wear off she had to have 5 days off school due to the schools rule
since found out there are lots of cases of it in school but no letters or emails from the school about it being in the school.

purplecaterpillar · 26/06/2024 18:08

@Soubriquet sadly the vaccine does not work for everyone. But if nearly everyone has the vaccine, then it protects those who are not helped by the vaccine as well.

Soubriquet · 26/06/2024 17:58

He did have the vaccine after he was born, and the booster for the pre-school ones.

Plus I was vaccinated during pregnancy to so theoretically he should be covered till he’s 13/14

Soubriquet · 26/06/2024 17:57

Mumtobabyhavoc · 26/06/2024 17:38

@Soubriquet how long has he been sick for?

Sunday

clarepetal · 26/06/2024 17:51

OP, which part of the country are you in? I'm in Sussex, and there have been cases of it in my sons class since the new year. I am sure I have just had it myself as I was so ill a month ago. I was signed off work, and my doctors were awful.
They insisted I had a virus, and that it was not whooping cough - I've never felt so ill. They also said there was no extra cases of it in the country.
What a pile of bollocks. Perhaps if they diagnosed people rather than ignoring them, they could treat us which would in turn stop the spreading.

Pricks.

purplecaterpillar · 26/06/2024 17:50

Luddite26 · 26/06/2024 10:39

Yes and not really their fault because it was eradicated and now it's back. But still not the first thing people expect.

Agreed. So sad. Whooping cough was fairly unknown for decades, but has made a come back because of children not being vaccinated.

RafaistheKingofClay · 26/06/2024 17:39

At 9 he may not have the distinctive whoop.

Mumtobabyhavoc · 26/06/2024 17:38

@Soubriquet how long has he been sick for?

Soubriquet · 26/06/2024 17:29

Ds (9) has an awful cough. He sounds a lot like the video clip on the website someone posted. He doesn’t have the distinctive whooping sound though.

Snooglequack · 26/06/2024 17:26

Well this explains why my DH has had a horrible cough for months and the rest of the family haven't as we have all been vaccinated (pregnancy and then preschool jabs) and his must have run out.

Mumtobabyhavoc · 26/06/2024 17:19

Yes, the cough is very distinctive, but not everyone exhibits it. Adults often don't have the whoop sound, although I did.

@Riversideandrelax

UnmentionedElephantDildo · 26/06/2024 15:51

DeathMetalMum · 26/06/2024 07:50

Was it the GP who said about the vaccine waring off? It not something I've heard of. There were several news reports on this earlier in the year, none mentioned anything about vaccine effectiveness. Just encouraging those who haven't recieved the vaccine to take it up.

It has been mentioned since around January that cases were on the rise, but is also being called 100 day cough which is confusing.

It's been known for a long time that the vaccine wears off (which is possibly why it's not featured much in the news, as it's not new).

The last big outbreak was in 2012 - after which the immunisation for pregnant women was introduced. I think I may have had it then - I didn't whoop, but I had a cough that lasted for over 6 weeks, as did many other parents and DC at the school. So maybe that topped us all up?

I'm not sure of the strength of the evidence for how much it wears off, nor how quickly, and that's likely to vary between individuals anyhow.

One new factor is repeated covid exposures. There is now good evidence of covid dampening down the immune system - an effect that can last for many months, so if you're getting covid 2x a year, your immune system probably doesn't have the time to get back on track. That means that we would expect to see rises in many infectious diseases, with people getting them that bit more readily, and getting them that bit worse.

Looolaaa · 26/06/2024 15:44

Was just swabbed for it myself this week so I will wait and see if I have it. Given antibiotics anyway.

Simpsonssky · 26/06/2024 15:40

countcalculia · 26/06/2024 07:05

She’s not being rude, just factual. There was a spate of threads on it on MN a few months ago. That doesn’t mean OP can’t post about it as well to keep people aware if they have the symptoms.

May be she didn’t mean to be rude which is why I asked the question and then gave a less blunt way of putting it.

Overnightoats1 · 26/06/2024 15:17

Vettrianofan · 26/06/2024 07:15

I feel like this also as my 13yo has been having coughing fits for several days now. It started off with cold symptoms, but now it's only coughing. I have kept him off school this week. He just isn't fit to go in. No temperature either, I have checked.

I suppose I could phone and ask advice from GP reception....just never know if you are doing the right thing!

This sounds just like my son 2/3 days of cold symptoms and now only the cough - he is well in himself between coughing fits .. when I called the GP and mentioned his symptoms - he told us to come straight in.

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ButWhyMama · 26/06/2024 12:15

From the descriptions of the cough and the breathing problems it causes, I'm pretty sure I have this.

In week 2 I was told whooping cough is viral, there was nothing they could do even if I did have it, so no point testing.

In week 4, the doctor treated me with clarithromycin and steroids but refused to test or give a diagnosis other than 'unspecified respiratory tract infection'.

In week 6 they decided to test, but there was no point as I'd had the antibiotics and still nobody wants to call it whooping cough because then there's paperwork.

I'm now 8 weeks in and it's absolutely rubbish. Whenever the cough hits my kids get really worried and my DC keeps saying he hopes I don't die. It makes me so cross that I've probably unknowingly passed this on and that could've been prevented by proper testing and treatment when I first saw the surgery in week 2.

yikesanotherbooboo · 26/06/2024 12:15

@Kitkat1523
I don't think that the paperwork puts GPs off although you are correct it is notifiable. Notification takes very little time or effort.Around here it takes about 4 weeks to get a result so testing doesn't benefit the patient at all and there are shortages of nurse/ phlebotomy appointments.Diagnosis is clinical. Just to reiterate antibiotics are useful early in the illness to reduce spread of the disease but have little effect on the symptoms.
WC is very dangerous to babies and can cause long term lung damage known as bronchiectasis although luckily most people recover unscathed.
This , and the measles outbreak, should be a moment for public health messaging about childhood, workplace and pregnancy imms but I haven't seen much.

Vettrianofan · 26/06/2024 11:44

Kitkat1523 · 26/06/2024 11:05

Most gps won’t test….it makes paperwork for them as it’s a noticeable disease ….they just treat with the correct AB

Fair enough. DS will be glad of that!😅

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