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Paula Vennells is history but now at the Post Office Inquiry is Fujitsu distinguished engineer Gareth Jenkins - thread 4

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nauticant · 25/06/2024 21:22

A continuation of this thread:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5094266-paula-vennells-was-done-the-other-week-the-post-office-inquiry-is-now-questioning-associates-and-others-thread-3

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https://www.youtube.com/@postofficehorizonitinquiry947/featured

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AutumnCrow · 17/07/2024 15:28

She can't even answer a straight question from Sir Wyn. <sigh>

CIT - she felt she still wasn't getting full information even after the judgement against POL.

Sir Wyn seeks to clarify. She's just repeating his words back at him, really.

'There were clearly issues'. YES KELLY WE BLOODY KNOW THAT.

SparksFlyUpward · 17/07/2024 15:28

Oh blimey, I don't think I've got the strength to listen to her explaining her understanding of recusal.

AutumnCrow · 17/07/2024 15:25

Sir Wyn intervenes to try to cut through the crap.

AutumnCrow · 17/07/2024 15:24

So there's some record her (KT) having complained about lack of information being provided to her. However, the same record shows that POL knew it had to up its game.

SparksFlyUpward · 17/07/2024 15:23

Oh dear, someone missed part of a discussion about the CEO because they were stuck behind a locked door in the House of Commons.

AutumnCrow · 17/07/2024 15:22

This will be helpful to KT if it emerges that POL conspired to withhold information from her in the verbal briefings she requested.

AutumnCrow · 17/07/2024 15:20

Re briefings: 'That is something that would have been formulated by the team or my office'.

But she only wanted 'relevant' information, not things of little consequence. (But she expected POL to decide that?)

Then, shenanigans.

AutumnCrow · 17/07/2024 15:18

KT the Minister didn't know that UKGI regarded the risk of litigation losses by POL to be one of the top risks on its risk register.

Yet she was being 'briefed', apparently.

'That was sort of erm normal for me but I can't guarantee I did receive weekly briefings or verbal updates ... it was important I had access to new information as quickly as possible ... would have been normal for me'.

SparksFlyUpward · 17/07/2024 15:17

The nervous smiling, laughing and hand waving are excruciating.

AutumnCrow · 17/07/2024 15:08

'I'm not a legal expert ...'

No, you're not much use for anything. Nice title though.

SparksFlyUpward · 17/07/2024 15:07

I've got to go out shortly and can't be arsed to look it up. Perhaps the lack of enquiry is catching.

AutumnCrow · 17/07/2024 15:05

SparksFlyUpward · 17/07/2024 15:04

Bit of a tangent, but having lost her seat is she still 'The Right Honourable' as per the sign on the desk? I wasn't aware that ex MPs retained that title.

I was just wondering that. Maybe she was admitted to the Privy Council as a government minister.

SparksFlyUpward · 17/07/2024 15:04

Bit of a tangent, but having lost her seat is she still 'The Right Honourable' as per the sign on the desk? I wasn't aware that ex MPs retained that title.

AutumnCrow · 17/07/2024 15:03

'I had an overall concern' ... 'but none on those particular points' (about the high impact risk events specified in July 2018). Oh god we've got vocal uptick now.

'That's the best way I can articulate it'. That's what I'm worried about.

Again, her oral evidence isn't matching up with her written statement. Did she even write her written statement herself? Read it through?

SparksFlyUpward · 17/07/2024 14:59

Ah, now we're on the RAG contingency planning document the CIT litigation. Although sadly without the pretty colours.
Did she read it? She expects she did but can't recall...

AutumnCrow · 17/07/2024 14:55

We're back after the first afternoon break.

AutumnCrow · 17/07/2024 14:43

I wouldn't of ... erm I wouldn't of ...' I bet they were all laughing at her behind her back.

'I'm not a tech expert ...' Oh here we go.

SparksFlyUpward · 17/07/2024 14:41

'Systemical errors'. That's a new one.

SparksFlyUpward · 17/07/2024 14:40

'I wouldn't erm maybe sort of have erm asked that question. I took what I was told at face value.'

AutumnCrow · 17/07/2024 14:37

' ... erm yes erm of course any sort of kind of prosecution is a concern ... this is where I sort of asked the questions ...'

CustardySergeant · 17/07/2024 14:37

AutumnCrow · 17/07/2024 14:33

My broadband keeps going down today. I got as far as KT saying, 'anyone sort of being accused ...' which is fairly typical of her speaking style.

Yes, and she keeps starting answers with "I genuinely" and "I honestly" which should be a given.

SparksFlyUpward · 17/07/2024 14:36

She didn't ask to see the Second Sight report even though it was referred to more than once in briefing notes. ' I can't explain why'.

I think I can.

AutumnCrow · 17/07/2024 14:35

' ... you know for me absolutely you know ...'

AutumnCrow · 17/07/2024 14:33

My broadband keeps going down today. I got as far as KT saying, 'anyone sort of being accused ...' which is fairly typical of her speaking style.

AutumnCrow · 17/07/2024 14:22

And to think the British public were sold the line that Post Office privatisation was safe because there would be government oversight.

And instead they got this gibbering ship of fools who ran good people into the ground and trashed what was left of the Post Office's reputation.