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To think this nurse shouldn't have laughed / scoffed at me for asking for a room?

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supertrainers · 25/06/2024 18:20

Last night at 3 am I had to take my DD to a and e as she was struggling with her breathing.

Unfortunately this coincided with me having been up all night already vomiting. Second night in a row. It's not a stomach bug, before anyone says I shouldn't have taken my child to the hospital.

I was feeling absolutely rotten. Two nights of no sleep, worry for my DD. Pain, nausea. Everything.

I'm familiar with the hospital as I have found myself many times in there with one of my children in the middle of the night.

Most of the time, we get offered a room, once we've been triaged. Not always, but more often than not. The room has a bed in it and we just stay in there and the doctors come in and out.

I said to the triage nurse last night that I was also feeling extremely unwell and are there any rooms we could possibly wait in. I said I'm sorry for asking and I wouldn't ask unless I really needed to.

She did a scoff / laugh at me for even asking. 9 times out of 10 we have a room and you scoff at me ? I was taken aback by it and in my horrible state for her to just laugh / scoff at me was super rude. I told her, I understand but I really don't appreciate you laughing at me for even asking. I'm really unwell and I wouldn't ask you. It's not very nice that you laughed.

She denied laughing at me. I left it at that and went and sat on the plastic chairs for 6 hours.

OP posts:
countcalculia · 25/06/2024 19:02

supertrainers · 25/06/2024 19:01

I don't need to get into the personal details about why we need to go to a and e.

We have our reason and they're legitimate.

We stayed 6 hours for observations today. The wait to see the doctor wasn't that long at all today thankfully. But we needed to stay to be observed.

I'm not entitled, it's the way our a and e works and it's never usually a problem and no one scoffs or laughs at us.

I get the staff are under pressure but so are we.

I'm always extremely polite to everyone and I didn't deserve that today. End of.

OP, she’s only human.

On this occasion she wasn’t able to hold in a laugh at someone asking for a private room.

She didn’t deserve you reprimanding her.

Needmorelego · 25/06/2024 19:02

@Crokepark by "room" the OP probably meant bed. The beds are all mostly in individual rooms in the children's A+E departments I've been in - plus a few beds with curtains.
If you get a bed - it essentially is a room.

TomatoSandwiches · 25/06/2024 19:02

MissMoneyFairy · 25/06/2024 18:57

Were you there?

No, but op was and I for one believe she is in the best position to state what happened right in front of her face.

There's an awful amount of gaslighting going on here, not sure why but personally having a high medical needs child I have experienced more unacceptable and unprofessional behaviour from nurses than decent ones so I'm not in anyway surprised by what happened to op.

Nurses aren't saints, some are really lovely but a lot are just rude and I really don't care why, they need to be held accountable for poor behaviour.

sweetnessandlighter · 25/06/2024 19:02

YABU.

supertrainers · 25/06/2024 19:01

I don't need to get into the personal details about why we need to go to a and e.

We have our reason and they're legitimate.

We stayed 6 hours for observations today. The wait to see the doctor wasn't that long at all today thankfully. But we needed to stay to be observed.

I'm not entitled, it's the way our a and e works and it's never usually a problem and no one scoffs or laughs at us.

I get the staff are under pressure but so are we.

I'm always extremely polite to everyone and I didn't deserve that today. End of.

OP posts:
countcalculia · 25/06/2024 19:01

Maybe she watched the Channel 4 documentary last night about people waiting for up to 46 hours in a Fit to Sit area of A&E in hard back chairs.

grapesstrawberriesplease · 25/06/2024 18:58

@Whatevershallidowithmylife agreed. Also the fact that the daughter was triaged and found to not be an urgent case implies that it likely wasn’t an ‘emergency’ at all. Not denying breathing difficulties can be serious and should be looked at, but to turn up and expect a room over other poorly children is bizarre. Especially after your child has been triaged already and found to not be an urgent case.

Crokepark · 25/06/2024 18:58

I've never heard of getting your own room even in the children's a and e where I live. You would be lucky just to get a bed or get seen.

MissMoneyFairy · 25/06/2024 18:57

TomatoSandwiches · 25/06/2024 18:40

YANBU op, she was really rude and unprofessional to laugh at you, you can always make a complaint to PALS.

Were you there?

Whatevershallidowithmylife · 25/06/2024 18:55

If there's a six hour wait in a&e I assume they might have been rather busy

grapesstrawberriesplease · 25/06/2024 18:55

@Seagrassbasket yes but that’s not the fault of the nurses and doctors working tirelessly is it? Of course we shouldn’t accept it but to poise the question directly at a nurse no doubt working her backside off is ludicrous.

LadyFeatheringt0n · 25/06/2024 18:55

Is there a reason you are there so often? It seems odd to have had a life threateningly ill child with such frequency. Does your DC have severe medical needs? If so that might have been a factor in your warranting a room on more visits than are typical.

BillieJ · 25/06/2024 18:54

I've never attended A&E at night, so I wouldn't;t know whether there are rooms available, but I can't think of any circumstances when I would ask for one. Surely, if there are such rooms, they are for patient use and not tired parents, and they would be allocated on clinical need?

grapesstrawberriesplease · 25/06/2024 18:53

Sorry but how entitled do you sound?! Everyone there will (should!!!) be having a life threatening emergency or have had a terrible accident. Count yourself lucky that you and your child were physically and mentally able to ‘sit in the plastic chairs’.

In fact, count yourself lucky that you’re physically and mentally able to be sat posting on Mumsnet after a trip to A&E. Many people who find themselves there (people who genuinely need to be seen urgently and can’t just wait until they see a GP) either end up admitted long term due to injuries, operated on, admitted overnight for observations or sadly don’t even make it home at all.

This is such a first world thing to be worried about.

freakinthespreadsheets · 25/06/2024 18:52

supertrainers · 25/06/2024 18:49

It's really not that weird in that a and e though.

9 times out of 10 we get a room to wait in.

I wouldn't have asked in the main an and e for adults. It would never even cross my mind to ask there.

The children's an and e is completely different at this hospital.

Ok, well obviously without knowing the exact specifications of your A&E (our children's A&E is nothing like that) that would be my general response. I did agree she was rude for laughing in your face.

TheTartfulLodger · 25/06/2024 18:52

So did she laugh ha ha! directly at you personally, or did she just balk because she was incredulous that you actually thought there would be a room available at a struggling NHS department? It sort of makes a difference if you're going to complain and get her in trouble.

TwattyMcFuckFace · 25/06/2024 18:52

supertrainers · 25/06/2024 18:49

It's really not that weird in that a and e though.

9 times out of 10 we get a room to wait in.

I wouldn't have asked in the main an and e for adults. It would never even cross my mind to ask there.

The children's an and e is completely different at this hospital.

Then there must've been another reason why she reacted how she did.

Otherwise it doesn't make sense whatsoever, does it?

Unless she was telling the truth and she didn't scoff, but you thought she did?

Seagrassbasket · 25/06/2024 18:52

I’m actually really surprised at the replies here. I was appalled last time I went to A&E and had to sit in the waiting room for hours. It used to be you got called through and waited in a cubicle. We shouldn’t be accepting this.

And no OP she shouldn’t have scoffed but as others have said it might not have been really aimed at you.

Badburyrings · 25/06/2024 18:51

DaughterNo2 · 25/06/2024 18:36

How often do you attend A&E? Is there an underlying problem with you or your children?

I was thinking the same. Why is the OP attending a and e so much?

Nottherealslimshady · 25/06/2024 18:50

Our children's A &E is the same. We're usually in a room waiting for the doctor but i do notice that not all the kids are. I think its probably based on the child being very ill or very young,. We've just had a very different experience at our new hospital though. I'm a bit gutted to be moving.

Laughing at someone for wanting an actual standard of care is appalling though. They're just desensitised to how shit it is I think.

supertrainers · 25/06/2024 18:49

freakinthespreadsheets · 25/06/2024 18:45

I would've laughed too - not at you directly but privately at the irony of you wanting a room to wait in because you were unwell, in an A&E department where that's the point of everyone being there 🤣 it was rude to scoff in your face, but I'd have probably given you a wry smile and asked you to think it through, realising you're probably sleep deprived and not thinking straight.
Best wishes for recovery for you both OP.

It's really not that weird in that a and e though.

9 times out of 10 we get a room to wait in.

I wouldn't have asked in the main an and e for adults. It would never even cross my mind to ask there.

The children's an and e is completely different at this hospital.

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RoomOfRequirement · 25/06/2024 18:49

If you get a room 9/10 it makes sense to assume they didn't have a room to give you on this day surely?

She shouldn't have been rude but she was probably laughing at the impossibility of the situation not at you. You were probably over sensitive due to your worry and tiredness also. I wouldn't think about this again.

MumChp · 25/06/2024 18:47

supertrainers · 25/06/2024 18:42

No I definitely wouldn't put a complaint in for that.

I did let her know it wasn't nice, without being aggressive. She knows it wasn't nice in that moment.

I'm always very very nice to this lady. Well to all of them. But she knows me, I've seen her a number of times and recognise her.

@supertrainers

3 am - NHS 2024 stress, give her some credit.
She could maybe have done better but being a nurse at 3 am at A/E is sh*t

MatildaTheCat · 25/06/2024 18:46

Well it wasn’t a funny question and I doubt she meant anything unpleasant by her reaction. It’s way more likely that it was a kind of, ‘oh chance would be a fine thing’ reaction from someone who is absolutely shattered and run off her feet.

Sorry you had such a bad time of it. Feeling unwell definitely makes you more sensitive than usual.

TomatoSandwiches · 25/06/2024 18:45

supertrainers · 25/06/2024 18:42

No I definitely wouldn't put a complaint in for that.

I did let her know it wasn't nice, without being aggressive. She knows it wasn't nice in that moment.

I'm always very very nice to this lady. Well to all of them. But she knows me, I've seen her a number of times and recognise her.

I hope she apologises properly next time you see her then because it really isn't OK to treat people like that stressed out or not.

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