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Does anyone not just accept anything anymore?

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PassingStranger · 25/06/2024 15:57

Saw a group grieving for grandchildren for people grieving cos they arent grandparents.

FFS. Nobody gets everything they want in life. Life isn't like that.
How is sharing this info with each other going to make grandchildren appear anyway?

What's the point in it.
Some people would be just pleased to have a child let alone worrying about grandchildren.

Why do people think their lives would be better if only they had this or that.
Be grateful for what you do have?
How about grieving cos I'm not a millionaire.
Grieving that I'm not famous and so on etc.
Where does it end?
We don't all get everything we want and there is no saying it would bring happiness anyway.

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PassingStranger · 25/06/2024 21:35

Lentilweaver · 25/06/2024 17:54

I dont want my children to have grandchildren. Neither does DH. I hope there's a support group for us!

That's interesting. Why not if you want to say?

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EveryOtherNameTaken · 25/06/2024 19:50

Agree OP.

needtonamechangeforthis1 · 25/06/2024 19:45

Errors · 25/06/2024 19:16

See also, how many people post on threads that are about something general and manage to make it about them and get offended… see if you can spot this on this thread…

ODFOD

GinToBegin · 25/06/2024 19:43

To answer the question in the thread title, of course they do. Sometimes happily, sometimes sadly. Unless their happiness/sadness impacts on you, why get bent out of shape about it? I mean, your feelings, your choice, so crack gently on, but fuck me, it sounds exhausting.

Live and let live.

Errors · 25/06/2024 19:16

See also, how many people post on threads that are about something general and manage to make it about them and get offended… see if you can spot this on this thread…

PassingStranger · 25/06/2024 19:15

TwattyMcFuckFace · 25/06/2024 18:41

If you want to 🤷‍♂️

It's not like it'd cause harm to anyone, or that anyone would be forced to join it.

Live and let live.

I don't want too, it would be a waste of time and nothing would change anyway.

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Errors · 25/06/2024 19:14

downwithmaterialistdogma · 25/06/2024 18:26

It is bad for a nation to have its people spending their time sniveling and whining about minor things. It lowers resilience and makes for poor workers and poor parenting which then passes it on to the next generation then we end up with people who just sit crying and clutching their teddy bears all day. It's undignified and not what being a human is supposed to be about. Can you imagine if cavemen had behaved like this?

"Oooo, I'm so upset 😭 I tripped up over a mammoth bone this afternoon and Ugg laughed at me" 😭😭😭

Meanwhile, cave family sits and starves 🙄 cave mum can't gather berries because she's upset over a lost shell and cave teen is having a massive strop because cave dad told her to clear the pile of bones up.

Get a grip!

And also this!
soft times create soft people, soft people create hard times, hard times create hard people, hard people create soft times

And so on…

needtonamechangeforthis1 · 25/06/2024 19:13

Oh do piss off OP what a shitty thread!

People grieve for all sorts of reasons and who the hell are you to judge them for it!

No doubt I'm one of those people you're talking about. A forced hysterectomy a year ago means I never get to be a parent and yeah actually I'm allowed to fucking hurt! I'm also allowed to deal with it however I god damned chose to!

Get over yourself!!!

TooLateForRoses · 25/06/2024 19:10

Mayflower282 · 25/06/2024 15:59

You are angry at people seeking social support for painful emotions? You seem unempathetic and angry at people who are suffering.

This.

They probably don't feel it's something they can discuss with their family.

Errors · 25/06/2024 19:09

MaryMaryVeryContrary · 25/06/2024 16:04

Your overall tone is right. People dwell on things now in a way that isn’t healthy tbh. Wish they’d all stop talking about it, it feels like all we do now is ruminate, self diagnose and play misery top trumps

This

KimberleyClark · 25/06/2024 19:07

KimberleyClark · 25/06/2024 17:18

I do belong to a Non Mum group on Mumsnet but it is about coping strategies and making the most of childfree life as well as venting. It’s not about competitive suffering at all.

Meant Facebook not Mumsnet sorry.

WhatNoRaisins · 25/06/2024 18:54

While some support groups can turn into a load of depressing competitive suffering this is far from the worst way to cope with feelings of sadness and grief. Definitely better to find a way to offload that bottle up your feelings or vent on to your own children.

Sometimes an imperfect solution is the best you can do.

TwattyMcFuckFace · 25/06/2024 18:41

PassingStranger · 25/06/2024 17:31

I'm sorry I'm not a billionaire shall I set up a group where we can all commiserate even though its unlikely to ever change for us all.

If you want to 🤷‍♂️

It's not like it'd cause harm to anyone, or that anyone would be forced to join it.

Live and let live.

Lentilweaver · 25/06/2024 18:31

I dont think it's necessarily whining in this case, but at the same time I am struck by how everybody these days describes themselves as a "survivor" or a "warrior". Social media has a lot to answer for.

downwithmaterialistdogma · 25/06/2024 18:26

It is bad for a nation to have its people spending their time sniveling and whining about minor things. It lowers resilience and makes for poor workers and poor parenting which then passes it on to the next generation then we end up with people who just sit crying and clutching their teddy bears all day. It's undignified and not what being a human is supposed to be about. Can you imagine if cavemen had behaved like this?

"Oooo, I'm so upset 😭 I tripped up over a mammoth bone this afternoon and Ugg laughed at me" 😭😭😭

Meanwhile, cave family sits and starves 🙄 cave mum can't gather berries because she's upset over a lost shell and cave teen is having a massive strop because cave dad told her to clear the pile of bones up.

Get a grip!

ArseholeCatIsABlackAndWhiteCat · 25/06/2024 18:10

The thing is, you don't get to decide what other people feel sad about and how they deal with it as long as it doesn't actually affect your life.

While this thread is not an actual support group, you are looking for SUPPORT in sneering and looking down at other people because of reasons. Pot,meet kettle.

Lentilweaver · 25/06/2024 17:54

I dont want my children to have grandchildren. Neither does DH. I hope there's a support group for us!

Clariceamelia · 25/06/2024 17:53

I feel it is very reasonable to grieve and be sad, if you watch your greatly loved adult child try everything they can do to conceive and be unable to. Time after time.

Heartbreaking to watch. And nothing you can do to help and nothing to say either.

Totally different to wanting a grandchild and being disappointed if it doesn't happen due to an informed choice of your child.

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 25/06/2024 17:53

KimberleyClark · 25/06/2024 17:52

The thing is it could end anyway two or three generations down the line. You just don’t know. I couldn’t have children but this is not something I feel particularly sad about.

And that’s fine but for me it would make me sad- our own feelings don’t invalidate others’

stickygotstuck · 25/06/2024 17:52

Speedweed · 25/06/2024 16:19

It's the Internet.

We can see things now that we never needed to see, and often would be better off not seeing. So you wouldn't have random grandchild pictures pushed at you through social media, making you feel sad you didn't have grandchildren. Previously, a friend might have shown you a grandchildren pic when you saw your friend, and you could have said you were sad about not having grandchildren, and your friend probably wouldn't have offered more pics again, being mindful of your sadness.

You wouldn't have been able to go into a spiral by looking up grief for non-existent grandchildren, and discover it was a thing. Previously, you might have decided not to dwell on it, as it seemed silly when people were dealing with grief as real people died, and you would have moved on, until it just became a slight wistfulness, along with all the other life regrets.

Now, the algorithms get to work, and you can't go online without grandchildren (and happy doting grandparents) being pushed at you. Now it seems you're really missing out, which makes you even sadder.

Then you engage with it more, study the feeling and need a support group to make you feel better.

It's a vicious cycle that just wouldn't have happened pre-internet.

Spot on!

KimberleyClark · 25/06/2024 17:52

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 25/06/2024 17:37

I think it’s quite sad not to have grandchildren- family is up there with health and money in terms of importance for most people to be happy. Knowing your family line will end I think is sad

The thing is it could end anyway two or three generations down the line. You just don’t know. I couldn’t have children but this is not something I feel particularly sad about.

downwithmaterialistdogma · 25/06/2024 17:40

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 25/06/2024 17:37

I think it’s quite sad not to have grandchildren- family is up there with health and money in terms of importance for most people to be happy. Knowing your family line will end I think is sad

You have to re-frame it. It's not sad. Just think about all the people who'll be saved from living this miserable existence on a failing planet 😃

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 25/06/2024 17:37

I think it’s quite sad not to have grandchildren- family is up there with health and money in terms of importance for most people to be happy. Knowing your family line will end I think is sad

downwithmaterialistdogma · 25/06/2024 17:37

People need to get a grip. It's unhealthy to spend so much time and effort angsting about these types of things. People are so immature now.

Melodram Patheticism is what it is.

80smonster · 25/06/2024 17:32

PassingStranger · 25/06/2024 15:57

Saw a group grieving for grandchildren for people grieving cos they arent grandparents.

FFS. Nobody gets everything they want in life. Life isn't like that.
How is sharing this info with each other going to make grandchildren appear anyway?

What's the point in it.
Some people would be just pleased to have a child let alone worrying about grandchildren.

Why do people think their lives would be better if only they had this or that.
Be grateful for what you do have?
How about grieving cos I'm not a millionaire.
Grieving that I'm not famous and so on etc.
Where does it end?
We don't all get everything we want and there is no saying it would bring happiness anyway.

I feel like this when I read threads by parents who already have a kid/s but are DEVASTATED to not have a 2nd or 3rd or 4th child. I find it really childish. I didn’t get to be Kate Moss, or marry George Clooney, or live in a palatial mansion overlooking Hampstead Heath, yet somehow I move forward with my life.