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Neighbour being cheeky? Or AIBU?

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Motheringthrough · 25/06/2024 13:56

We moved in a couple of years back and as I am a keen gardener, I arranged for our house to have a green bin collection (not sure if this is the case everywhere but it’s a service you pay extra for with our council)

About a month after moving in our next door neighbour asked if it would be alright if he put his grass clippings in our green bin. Trying to be friendly and neighbourly and all that, I said yes, thinking it would be a one off. They’ve never had a green bin and prior to us moving in next door, he used to take his garden waste to the tip.

Every time he has mown his lawn since (every 1-2 months I’d say) he asks me if he can put his grass cuttings in our green bin.

It is now starting to bother me that he doesn’t pay for his own green bin when he clearly would get a lot of use out of it. I just think to keep asking each time now is being cheeky and almost overstepping with the favour.

Am I being silly? I realise this is probably the most silly and middle England issue to post but I need to put my mind at rest!

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Lillers · 25/06/2024 17:25

This honestly wouldn’t bother me if it didn’t impact my own use of the bin, but then we’re also the neighbours that offer to take stuff to the tip for the family next door if we’re doing a tip run and have space in the car 🤷‍♀️

horseyhorsey17 · 25/06/2024 17:24

I think I'd do it but make a joke like 'you owe me a coffee and a cake/couple of glasses of wine.' Because tbh if my neighbour bought me the odd coffee or glass of wine, that would be fine by me to use the bin once every month or two, provided I hadn't filled it up already.

namechangiosa · 25/06/2024 17:24

See this ⬇

There was one occasion last summer where I had done both my lawns during the week and he then did both his at the weekend, the bin had only just been collected so it was full for another week until the next collection and I was unable to use it. I was just worried this might start to happen now that it’s summer.

This is going to happen more and more - he might ask if he can put grass cuttings in, but you mention that he also puts other stuff in there (without asking) and on at least this one occasion you could not use your own bin that you pay for.

At the very least, if this happens again, I would let him know that you couldn't use your own bin. Whatever you do don't suggest he pays half or it will always be full of his stuff because he's paid for it. I just think too, he wouldn't be being this cheeky if you were a man - and I don't think a man would have put up with it for this long either.

Believe me, if you say nothing, he will just get cheekier - why would he not?

OMGitsnotgood · 25/06/2024 17:22

I would say to him please can you wait until the day before collection to see whether your bin is full, and if there is space then he can use it. We had to pay for a while before rhe council changed their mind. I think it was £38 a year - I wouldn't ask a neighbour to split that, you never know when you might need a favour in return, but they shouldn't use it until your gardening is done for that collection period.

AmiShitsaline · 25/06/2024 17:22

martinisforeveryone · 25/06/2024 17:17

Rother District Council specifically forbid 'Garden waste' either in the general household rubbish bin, or the green recycling bin, each of which are emptied once a fortnight. They also have rules about the additional garden waste subscription and what is and isn't allowed in there. All documented on their
What Can I Put In My Bins page.

I've never lived anywhere that will remove garden waste put in the other bins since the introduction of the garden waste subscriptions and they're extremely hard on what they'll take from recycling as well, stickering with big dayglo 'CONTAMINATED' stickers and leaving the lot if you transgress.

I imagine it’s easier to spot contamination in the recycling than the general waste as it would be all bagged up amongst all sorts of crap

Ellie1015 · 25/06/2024 17:18

There is space so no issue. Seems pointless to have 2 bins. If you have to say anything you could offer to split costs and share the bin.

martinisforeveryone · 25/06/2024 17:17

Blouson · 25/06/2024 15:43

Show me a link to the council page where it tells you it's forbidden. Councils are careful to point you to buying their garden waste service but that doesnt mean its against their rules to put grass in the normal bins (as long as its in line with the rules e.g. bagged)

Rother District Council specifically forbid 'Garden waste' either in the general household rubbish bin, or the green recycling bin, each of which are emptied once a fortnight. They also have rules about the additional garden waste subscription and what is and isn't allowed in there. All documented on their
What Can I Put In My Bins page.

I've never lived anywhere that will remove garden waste put in the other bins since the introduction of the garden waste subscriptions and they're extremely hard on what they'll take from recycling as well, stickering with big dayglo 'CONTAMINATED' stickers and leaving the lot if you transgress.

thankyoujeremy · 25/06/2024 17:14

Asking to put his grass clippings in your bin every couple of months doesn't seem much BUT our garden waste collection has gone up from £76 last year to £120 this year! Why should I pay that when someone else who uses the service (through me) doesn't? I know it doesn't seem very neighbourly but I don't think he's fair putting you in that position.

We are and have been kind to neighbours over the years - I just wouldn't like the expectation element of it. Sorry if this seems mean spirited.

rumred · 25/06/2024 17:14

Some of the mealy mouthed comments on here... No wonder the human race is fucked if you can't even let someone use your bin. My neighbour uses mine as they've a bigger family and create more rubbish. I would never have said no if I had the space, it's just mean

Chatonette · 25/06/2024 17:13

Motheringthrough · 25/06/2024 16:57

Hi all

Thanks for taking the time to respond - can see I’ve raised quite a polarising subject

Just to answer a few more questions:

  1. We live in a row of terraced houses, can’t hide my bin until bin day unfortunately. If I were tell a little white lie and say it’s full, I’d be easily rumbled as the bins are right there for him to access
  2. Myself and neighbour have both front and back lawns - I cut mine every 2 weeks but he tends to let his grow quite long. When I said 1-2 months, that’s what it’s been so far this year. I suspect he’ll be cutting more frequently as we come into summer though. He mentioned to me he only does it when it’s dry.
  3. He also puts his weeds and dead plants/flowers in there as/when that situation comes up
  4. There was one occasion last summer where I had done both my lawns during the week and he then did both his at the weekend, the bin had only just been collected so it was full for another week until the next collection and I was unable to use it. I was just worried this might start to happen now that it’s summer
  5. I do compost! But as someone posted earlier, you have to get the green to brown ratio right, so sadly I can’t put my grass in there every time.

I know it’s no inconvenience to me as I’m already paying for it, it was more the fact that he’s being tight and getting that paid service for free that was irking me - I think someone mentioned the word freeloader.

I think I am leaning towards not saying anything to maintain friendly neighbour relations. A few of you have suggested this and you’re right, being on side with your neighbours is worth a lot.

#4 is not okay, and he needs to be told if he does this again.

Viviennemary · 25/06/2024 17:11

Suggest he shares the cost. Its cheeky. One off ok. On a regular basis not ok. Or fill it up if you can so there is no room for his stuff, too cheeky.

ScribblingPixie · 25/06/2024 17:08

Motheringthrough · 25/06/2024 14:10

Yes I agree it is a nice thing to do, but I’m battling with being nice vs. he needs to loosen his purse strings a bit and pay for his own bin!

You don't use your full bin capacity so it's no skin off your nose at all. I'd definitely keep doing it on the (unspoken) understanding that you've got a neighbourly relationship and if you needed a favour he'd reciprocate. See how it goes.

LookItsMeAgain · 25/06/2024 17:08

Roseyjane · 25/06/2024 14:11

But why? If you have the space, it costs you nothing more, and it makes no difference to you?

Consider buying something, say renting a storage locker. It costs you £100 per year to rent this (plucking a figure out of the sky here).
Your neighbour needs to store something and is aware that you have a storage locker. You have the space to store whatever your neighbour needs stored.
Remember that you are the one being charged the rental fee here - not your neighbour and your neighbour has no intention of contributing to the rental of said storage locker even if their belongings are stored in it.
Does it make a difference to you? Yes, it does. You're the one covering the storage costs of stuff that isn't yours.

The OP's neighbour is using the OP's green bin, hasn't contributed to the cost of the bin (saved themselves money there) also hasn't needed to go to the tip to dispose of waste there either (another money saver for the neighbour) and also hasn't given any indication that they will contribute to the costs.
@Motheringthrough - contact your waste disposal company (or council) and see if they could pop a flyer in your neighbour's letterbox about green recycling and the costs of having a green bin.
Not sure how often you use your green bin but if you could get rid of it and say that you're going to be bringing your green waste to the tip because you don't have enough to warrant the green bin or you're changing service providers then tell your neighbour that he will have to sort his own green waste out going forwards. See if that might work.

TheCadoganArms · 25/06/2024 17:06

CurlewKate · 25/06/2024 16:57

Seriously weird that anyone would mind someone using a bit of space THAT YOU DON'T NEED in your bin!

Are you new here? 😂

Each week I pull my pensioner neighbours wheelie bin down her pathway to the road edge for collection. When I get back home from work I wheel it back to the side of her house again. On reflection, the old biddy has been a bit of cheeky fucker over the years. Not even a bottle of wine feom her. I'm going to empty the bin all over her garden and shit through her letterbox. That will teach her to take advantage of my goodwill over the years.

CurlewKate · 25/06/2024 17:04

@Blouson
"Probably asks for a free lift into town. Well there's 4 empty seats in the car after all."

Yep! Tell me you wouldn't ask for petrol money to take someone somewhere you were going already.......Please tell me....

Mummy2024 · 25/06/2024 17:04

Motheringthrough · 25/06/2024 14:05

It’s £60 a year here, so a fiver a month to me is a small price to pay to not have to keep going to the tip - which he was quite prepared to do before we moved in next door!

Nowhere else really for the bin to go 🤷‍♀️

Just to add for some others’ replied - my bin is probably 1/2 to 3/4 full with all our garden waste, but that isn’t the point - I’m paying for his garden waste to be taken away..

What I would do here is say to him. Scandalous isn't it that were asked to pay even more just to recycle. To save us both money why don't we split the cost and share a green bin all year round. If he says no then he won't come back again asking to use the bin and if he says yes then you've got half the cost for fair use of the bin.

Skyrainlight · 25/06/2024 17:04

I think you are being unreasonable. You have already paid, it's not costing you anything, there is space in the bin, he asks if it's ok. Why shouldn't you do someone a favour when there is no skin off your nose.

Motheringthrough · 25/06/2024 17:02

CurlewKate · 25/06/2024 17:02

@Motheringthrough I'm not brilliant at maths, but I THINK he owes you 41.5p a month......

Helpful, thanks

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viques · 25/06/2024 17:02

Why don’t you compost your garden waste?

( missing the point but curious. A compost bin , and a shredder if you have lots of very woody material is a much better way of dealing with your garden waste)

CurlewKate · 25/06/2024 17:02

@Motheringthrough I'm not brilliant at maths, but I THINK he owes you 41.5p a month......

VJBR · 25/06/2024 17:00

CurlewKate · 25/06/2024 16:57

Seriously weird that anyone would mind someone using a bit of space THAT YOU DON'T NEED in your bin!

But sometimes it is full. I think it is a cheek. Some people are so tight.

summersofdoom · 25/06/2024 16:59

CurlewKate · 25/06/2024 16:57

Seriously weird that anyone would mind someone using a bit of space THAT YOU DON'T NEED in your bin!

who is there to decide if the OP needs it or not?

It's really rude to expect a service for free when someone else is paying for it.

AmelieTaylor · 25/06/2024 16:58

Blouson · 25/06/2024 16:11

Probably asks for a free lift into town. Well there's 4 empty seats in the car after all.

@Blouson

and again, so what??

if I'm going, my neighbour is welcome to have a lift.

Motheringthrough · 25/06/2024 16:57

Hi all

Thanks for taking the time to respond - can see I’ve raised quite a polarising subject

Just to answer a few more questions:

  1. We live in a row of terraced houses, can’t hide my bin until bin day unfortunately. If I were tell a little white lie and say it’s full, I’d be easily rumbled as the bins are right there for him to access
  2. Myself and neighbour have both front and back lawns - I cut mine every 2 weeks but he tends to let his grow quite long. When I said 1-2 months, that’s what it’s been so far this year. I suspect he’ll be cutting more frequently as we come into summer though. He mentioned to me he only does it when it’s dry.
  3. He also puts his weeds and dead plants/flowers in there as/when that situation comes up
  4. There was one occasion last summer where I had done both my lawns during the week and he then did both his at the weekend, the bin had only just been collected so it was full for another week until the next collection and I was unable to use it. I was just worried this might start to happen now that it’s summer
  5. I do compost! But as someone posted earlier, you have to get the green to brown ratio right, so sadly I can’t put my grass in there every time.

I know it’s no inconvenience to me as I’m already paying for it, it was more the fact that he’s being tight and getting that paid service for free that was irking me - I think someone mentioned the word freeloader.

I think I am leaning towards not saying anything to maintain friendly neighbour relations. A few of you have suggested this and you’re right, being on side with your neighbours is worth a lot.

OP posts:
CurlewKate · 25/06/2024 16:57

Seriously weird that anyone would mind someone using a bit of space THAT YOU DON'T NEED in your bin!

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