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AIBU to want to tell sibling I’m going no contact?

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Lostwelshlady · 25/06/2024 11:01

Background- I’m one of 3 siblings (middle child) I have never been close to oldest sibling, we’ve had various falling outs over the years but managed to remain civil if visiting our parents at the same time, would send xmas cards etc. I’m very close with my youngest sibling who is getting married in 3 days. They have had a similar relationship with older sibling, civil but not close, but was close with older siblings teenage children who were due to be in the wedding party.

For various reasons, our relationship with older sibling has become more strained due to siblings partner (in our opionion) taking advantage of our parents (lots of cash gifts to older siblings partner to save home from creditors due to business going bust twice) siblings partner making numerous comments about how well off they’ll be once my parents have passed (including talking about hoping to take ownership of family home when one parent was very ill in hospital)

My parents have (for reasons unknown to us) always favoured older sibling and their partner, and will not hear a single bad thing about them. At a recent family wedding older sibling tried to start an argument with youngest sibling because of their refusal to let them babysit their young child and various other non issues. Youngest sibling told them this wasnt the time or the place and to behave. (Parents sided with older sibling and said babysitting youngest siblings child would help them get over a recent early pregnancy loss)

A few days later oldest sibling called unannounced with youngest sibling, and continued the argument. Youngest sibling again told them to leave.

Two weeks ago oldest sibling goes into hospital with migrane/meningitis type symptoms. Parents blame youngest sibling for causing oldest sibling stress.

Wedding rehearsal last night, oldest sibling and family don’t show. Parents call them and are told they are abroad, and won’t be attended wedding. Young sibling is devastated as nieces/nephews were part of the wedding party, and seating plans etc now all incorrect. Parents say youngest sibling and me are to blame for not visiting oldest sibling in hospital etc. Youngest sibling sees this as an end to any type of relation with the older sibling, and I feel that I cannot forgive this either.

I don’t wish to fall out with my parents prior to siblings wedding, but also feel very protective of my youngest sibling and cannot stand them being blamed for older siblings behaviour and so feel I should stand up for them, but probably won’t say anything until after the wedding.I also want to contact older sibling to tell them how angry and disappointed I am that they have behaved this way towards youngest sibling, and sneaking off with days to go with no warning. My husband says not to bother and to just accept the relationship is now over without bothering to tell them I’m going no contact, but part of me feels I need to tell them how disappointed I am just to get some kind of closure. WWYD?

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stilllovebeetroot · 25/06/2024 15:45

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StikItToTheMan · 25/06/2024 15:35

KrisAkabusi · 25/06/2024 15:32

I have no idea why so many people are jumping to the defence of the older sibling here

I don't think there's too many people defending the sister here. There are several pointing out that the OP isn't showing impeccable behaviour here either.

Maybe not. But it doesn't sound like the youngest sibling has done anything horrific enough to deserve what eldest sibling has done 'to' her.

Hence, even as the imperfect possibly-also-in-the-wrong middle sibling - I'd still be airing my thoughts to eldest sibling (after the wedding).

KrisAkabusi · 25/06/2024 15:32

I have no idea why so many people are jumping to the defence of the older sibling here

I don't think there's too many people defending the sister here. There are several pointing out that the OP isn't showing impeccable behaviour here either.

stilllovebeetroot · 25/06/2024 15:28

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StikItToTheMan · 25/06/2024 15:23

you sound…. odd

I think I can live with that.

I have no idea why so many people are jumping to the defence of the older sibling here...that's what I view as odd tbh. It's an awful, awful thing to do to your younger sister with no notice. Totally inexcusable behaviour.

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StikItToTheMan · 25/06/2024 15:16

Maybe oldest sibling and family decided to go abroad because they've had an exceptionally tough time recently, could tell that their two siblings were against them and couldn't cope with any potential toxicity at the wedding. IE it was an act of self protection for themselves, not a move calculated to hurt their two siblings

Oh give over. NO ONE remotely reasonable does this...just flies off abroad 3 days before a wedding without a word. Not even telling their sibling they now have X members of their actual wedding party missing. It's incredibly spiteful and the only possible motivation I can see would be to create drama and as much disruption as possible. If it was an act of self protection and literally impossible for their MH to attend they could still have let them know, via their parents - any decent person would IMO.

Op I'm sure there are probably more sensible/less aggravating options but you've asked for opinions so here's what I'd do if it was one of my sisters...

Say nothing now. Don't bitch or moan, don't even hint at being upset with elder sibling. Be there for your younger sibling. Console, reassure, be practical, help as much as possible. Paste a smile on your face and deflect from any mention of elder sibling your parents make. Not one bad word. Be the peacemaker, do everything in your power to ensure the wedding runs as smoothly as possible and that siblings actions don't spoil the day.

When your sister's back in the UK and the wedding is done, I'd go visit her. And I'd tell her to her face what a spiteful, vicious, selfish, jealous bitch she was. I'd tell her that she's the gossip of the moment and you lost count of the people at the wedding who expressed their disgust with her and her actions. Then I'd tell her never to contact me again and that I never wanted to lay eyes on her hateful face again.

I would absolutely go NC over this, it's unforgivable imo. And I would never be able to take the moral highground entirely, if it was one of my sisters I would absolutely make sure she 100% knew my thoughts.

Pippa12 · 25/06/2024 15:10

Gosh, I sympathised you until the update about your siblings loss. I really think you need to read that back… those paragraphs do not show you in good light.

Sunshinebreeze · 25/06/2024 15:00

Lostwelshlady · 25/06/2024 14:53

I was in hospital with quite serious pregnancy complications, and my parents were naturally concerned about me and baby. Older sibling couldn’t stand this so decided to announce (again, no one knew they were pregnant) on social media that they were having a miscarriage, and so then when my baby was born all my parents could say was “it’s so hard for your sibling seeing you happy with a baby,
don’t make too much of a fuss about it.”
We waited two weeks after the birth to announce her safe arrival on social media (she was on scbu for 10 days) and my sibling complained to my parents that I was “rubbing my baby in her face.”
Pregnancy loss is a terrible thing and it’s also terrible to (in my opinion) weaponise that because of family issues. She honestly just couldn’t be happy for someone else for once.

Aaaaand, you’ve somehow made it even worse.

You really think they “announced” their miscarriage because you had your parents attention?! I think you need to look closer to home.

Chickenwing2 · 25/06/2024 14:58

I wouldn't be able to say nothing. I wouldn't "announce" that I'm going no contact but I would phone them or message them and say that to pull out of your siblings wedding and leave the country is completely unforgivable and they should seriously reconsider if they want a relationship with you or your younger sibling going forward. Your parents also need to be told how unfair they are being.

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GiveMeSpanakopita · 25/06/2024 14:56

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Yes. It's interesting to me how OP is interpreting every action taken by oldest sibling as being all about 'attacking' OP and youngest sibling.

Maybe oldest sibling and family decided to go abroad because they've had an exceptionally tough time recently, could tell that their two siblings were against them and couldn't cope with any potential toxicity at the wedding.

IE it was an act of self protection for themselves, not a move calculated to hurt their two siblings.

stilllovebeetroot · 25/06/2024 14:55

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Lostwelshlady · 25/06/2024 14:53

Hellogoodbyehello4321 · 25/06/2024 14:26

Fuck me OP, I would love to hear your siblings side of the story. I was kind of with you until you describe them announcing a miscarriage 1 week before your due date as sabotaging your happiness. I'm pretty sure they don't control the timing of when these things happen - if they'd have announced it a week after your baby was born, that wouldn't be any less sabatoging your happiness when you had a brand new baby from that point of view, so do they just not get to tell their family a devastating event to spare your happiness. I'm sure your happiness wasn't impacted as much as your siblings.

The fact you even think that makes me wonder how much your sibling is aware of what sounds like quite resentful feelings towards her. No wonder she is off on holiday.

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I was in hospital with quite serious pregnancy complications, and my parents were naturally concerned about me and baby. Older sibling couldn’t stand this so decided to announce (again, no one knew they were pregnant) on social media that they were having a miscarriage, and so then when my baby was born all my parents could say was “it’s so hard for your sibling seeing you happy with a baby,
don’t make too much of a fuss about it.”
We waited two weeks after the birth to announce her safe arrival on social media (she was on scbu for 10 days) and my sibling complained to my parents that I was “rubbing my baby in her face.”
Pregnancy loss is a terrible thing and it’s also terrible to (in my opinion) weaponise that because of family issues. She honestly just couldn’t be happy for someone else for once.

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AstonMartha · 25/06/2024 14:52

approx 1 week before my due date last year with my first baby they announced they had a miscarriage (no one knew they were pregnant),

I can’t be bothered to type what I was going to before this.

stilllovebeetroot · 25/06/2024 14:52

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SheilaFentiman · 25/06/2024 14:48

mydamnfootstuckinthedoor · 25/06/2024 13:13

Too convoluted a tale for me to even bother reading it. You want to go no contact, but you want to announce your "disappointment" with older sibling's behaviour. Who made you judge and jury over someone else? Just stop contacting her and don't respond to her calls/messages. No need to make it worse than it already is.

You CBA to read, but you feel you should take a moment for a sarky reply?

Interesting choice.

Sunshinebreeze · 25/06/2024 14:47

I was with you until this:

approx 1 week before my due date last year with my first baby they announced they had a miscarriage (no one knew they were pregnant)

I am sure, no matter how vindictive you think your older sibling is, that they didn’t miscarry their baby to steal the thunder from you having yours. It’s absolutely unbelievable that you think your sister should have kept their miscarriage a secret because you were having a baby. I think the fact that you’ve mentioned that shows who you are and probably explains why your parents side with your older sibling.

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GiveMeSpanakopita · 25/06/2024 14:39

MargaretThursday · 25/06/2024 13:38

I think this would be one of the times when hearing the story from both other sisters might change things.

The Op has presented it as a Cinderella story of the spoilt favoured older one and the lovely hardworking younger pair

But if she's so nasty, why is the youngest upset she isn't coming. Surely she's relieved that her parents will have their attention for once on her...

So maybe the dynamic is a bit different. Op leads the youngest by the nose to gang up on the oldest.

It's possible.

The Op has presented it as a Cinderella story of the spoilt favoured older one and the lovely hardworking younger pair

In one of OP's replies I note that the parents were working a lot and 'put the oldest in charge of the younger two'.

it sounds like the oldest was parentified at potentially quite an early age and this too can cause damage and resentment.

As you say, the other side would be interesting especially as it sounds like the oldest and their family is currently really going through it.

BeaRF75 · 25/06/2024 14:33

I agree with your husband. Don't say anything, but equally there is no reason to contact or visit your elder sibling. Over time, they will just disappear from your life.

GiveMeSpanakopita · 25/06/2024 14:28

Going NC is a big, big deal. It is life-altering. It should only ever be used as an absolute last resort as it will have long-tern consequences, not only for the sibling you go NC with but for your relationships with your whole family.

Here are some questions to ponder which you may find helpful whilst you come to a decision:

  1. Am I prepared never ever to speak with my sibling ever again, even if my feelings towards them change? Even if I need them one day?
  2. Am I going NC to protect myself or to show solidarity with my sibling?
  3. Is it genuinely my desire to go NC, or do I just want to let my sibling know how angry I am, and am using the threat of NC as a weapon to 'prove' how angry I am?
  4. How would I feel if my youngest sibling's relationship with the oldest dramatically improved in years to come, and they became close? Would I be happy to still be on the outside?
  5. How would I feel if my going NC caused anguish and pain to my parents? How will I explain it to them if they express their anguish to me?
  6. In a hypothetical situation whereby one of my parents, close to death, begs me to reconcile with my sibling, will I still be confident in explaining and sticking to my NC, even at the risk of breaking my parent's heart?
  7. Am I sure in myself that going NC is to protect myself and not out of feelings of jealousy or resentment that the oldest sibling appears to be the favoured one?
  8. What will be the plan for future family gatherings, since I and my NC-sibling cannot be in the same place at the same time? Who will broker a fair arrangement by which we take family gatherings in turn?
  9. When my parents pass away, who will be the family member who will broker communications with my sibling and me, since we will not be speaking? What if we are joint executors?
  10. What will I tell my children, should they ever want to meet their aunt/uncle?
  11. Finally, can I accept that if I tell my sibling I'm going NC, they may also have long held (and in their view justified) resentments they want to communicate to me? Am I ready to hear and respond to these?

If you're confident you're prepared/have firm answers to all these questions, you're ready to go NC. Good luck. It is heart-breaking, but sometimes necessary for self-protection.

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