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Please can someone tell me if my dd is lying? iPhone question

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F0GGYCAT · 25/06/2024 07:51

She says she can't have find my iPhone turned on as she deleted it for storage, is that possible?

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HappiestSleeping · 25/06/2024 12:57

Conniebygaslight · 25/06/2024 12:54

Maybe the lad in Tenerife and Michael Mosely would've been found if they had a tracker on their phone. Someone out running could easily have an accident and a young girl out jogging at 6:00 is not necessarily safe.

Michael Mosely wouldn't as he didn't take his phone with him.

Conniebygaslight · 25/06/2024 12:54

CurlewKate · 25/06/2024 12:44

Please will someone explain why she will be safer if she is tracked?

Maybe the lad in Tenerife and Michael Mosely would've been found if they had a tracker on their phone. Someone out running could easily have an accident and a young girl out jogging at 6:00 is not necessarily safe.

Conniebygaslight · 25/06/2024 12:49

F0GGYCAT · 25/06/2024 07:55

15 years old. Never had it on before but she's going jogging at 6 am and I want it on but she says no

Life 360 is the free app for location sharing, we have it as a family. Even our adult kids as they appreciate that we don't use it to spy and they feel confident knowing where we are too. Our youngest is 18 and would like it removed as she is in a very abusive relationship and doesn't want us knowing half of the places he makes her go (That's a huge other story) but while we pay for her phone she has no choice really.

poetryandwine · 25/06/2024 12:49

greencartbluecart · 25/06/2024 12:44

But it doesn't make you safer - the biggest risk running are accidents , and it would be unusual to have the kind of accident/ a heart attack I guess/ where you notice she's someone stationary and can't phone for help and that you can respond quick enough to actually help

The safety gains are marginal but the sense of not being trusted , mummy always watching you would be strong

Teens need to become independent and having mummy watch your every move is not independence

Is it worth forcing something of marginal benefit given the benefit of children growing up

I agree if running after school in a reasonably populated area. Not at 6.00 am

SoupDragon · 25/06/2024 12:48

greencartbluecart · 25/06/2024 12:44

But it doesn't make you safer - the biggest risk running are accidents , and it would be unusual to have the kind of accident/ a heart attack I guess/ where you notice she's someone stationary and can't phone for help and that you can respond quick enough to actually help

The safety gains are marginal but the sense of not being trusted , mummy always watching you would be strong

Teens need to become independent and having mummy watch your every move is not independence

Is it worth forcing something of marginal benefit given the benefit of children growing up

It makes you easier to find if necessary. It makes your phone findable if you lose it.

I share my location with 2 of my 3 children (both over 18). We trust each other not to misuse it. I have used it in both the scenarios I gave above though. Several times in the case of finding a lost phone.

Your sneery use of "mummy" makes if clear you will never understand though so it's pointless.

ThisNaiceLemonSloth · 25/06/2024 12:48

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greencartbluecart · 25/06/2024 12:44

But it doesn't make you safer - the biggest risk running are accidents , and it would be unusual to have the kind of accident/ a heart attack I guess/ where you notice she's someone stationary and can't phone for help and that you can respond quick enough to actually help

The safety gains are marginal but the sense of not being trusted , mummy always watching you would be strong

Teens need to become independent and having mummy watch your every move is not independence

Is it worth forcing something of marginal benefit given the benefit of children growing up

CurlewKate · 25/06/2024 12:44

Please will someone explain why she will be safer if she is tracked?

usernother · 25/06/2024 12:40

@HappiestSleeping I got lambasted for a similar sentiment earlier. Make sure you have your flame proof suit ready.

Ha ha, I don't care but thanks for the warning.

JustRollWithIt · 25/06/2024 12:33

greencartbluecart · 25/06/2024 12:09

Why do you want to see her location ?

Why does she think you want to track her location ?

Did your parents track your location? It seems horrific to me but perhaps it no normal in some places?

This is trust issue

I see 'Find my' as simply a tool that 1000s of families use. It is extremely useful for many reasons. Technology has obviously changed immensely in the last 20 years in good ways and bad ways, but regardless, it has brought a change as to how people navigate day to day lives. I don't see it as a trust issue on the part of the parent at all. A family choosing to share their locations with each other is perfectly common these days. Many many families take advantage of it. It is a useful tool.

HappiestSleeping · 25/06/2024 12:18

usernother · 25/06/2024 12:17

OP if you are paying for the phone you can put what you want on it. If she doesn't like that maybe a conversation about her paying for her own phone is needed.

I got lambasted for a similar sentiment earlier. Make sure you have your flame proof suit ready.

usernother · 25/06/2024 12:17

OP if you are paying for the phone you can put what you want on it. If she doesn't like that maybe a conversation about her paying for her own phone is needed.

NoMoreLifts · 25/06/2024 12:14

F0GGYCAT · 25/06/2024 08:10

How does that work please?

It's very straightforward but I don't find it particularly reliable.
Open the contract or group, press paperclip, select location.
Also found it to be quite battery draining.

greencartbluecart · 25/06/2024 12:10

If I was her I would "forget" to take my phone if I was being tracked which would be far more dangerous

greencartbluecart · 25/06/2024 12:09

Why do you want to see her location ?

Why does she think you want to track her location ?

Did your parents track your location? It seems horrific to me but perhaps it no normal in some places?

This is trust issue

Samantha88 · 25/06/2024 11:57

If she has WhatsApp she can share her live location with you for up to 8 hours at a time 🤷‍♀️

BuggeryBumFlaps · 25/06/2024 11:49

Does she have Snapchat? She can share her location on there - not spring everyone sees it if she can tie it down to just you

ChurchCats · 25/06/2024 11:47

F0GGYCAT · 25/06/2024 07:55

15 years old. Never had it on before but she's going jogging at 6 am and I want it on but she says no

And in what universe is 'she says no' relevant. This is her safety and I would take no more notice of 'she says no' than if the cat had stood up and uttered it.

She says No. You say yes. End of.

CracklingLogsGalore · 25/06/2024 11:40

Would she be happy to share her location with you if you share yours with her? This is what I’ve done with my DD, she said it made it not feel like she was being tracked that way. Downside is now I mainly get messages off her asking me to go to the bakery section in Lidl when she sees I’m in the shop Grin

Life2Short4Nonsense · 25/06/2024 11:28

HappiestSleeping · 25/06/2024 10:26

At 15, I cycled across Holland with a friend who was also 15. We planned it, paid for it, and had a great time. All because I had been brought up to be responsible and not wrapped in cotton wool.

She's bordering on adulthood. Does a mysterious switch happen at 16, or should we be preparing them in advance for the responsibility?

This.

I am absolutely baffled by many of the responses here. Such extreme helicopter parenting. I am now actually glad we didn't have phones at that age. Our parents just had to trust us telling them where we were. The most strict parents were the ones who got lied to the most.

I realize that 15 year olds are still very naïve and vulnerable, but they are at greater danger from their internet activity than their actual physical activities. Furthermore, they need to learn to look after themselves at some point. When is that suppose to start? When then graduate college and suddenly find themselves in the deep end of the pool without ever having gotten to practice swimming on their own?

Starrynights9 · 25/06/2024 11:22

Who pays for the phone? I would threaten her with no find my location turned on results in no phone.

MargaretThursday · 25/06/2024 11:21

Tell her that find your phone saves the embarrassment of mum phoning a friend to ask if they know where she is

Vixpanda · 25/06/2024 11:21

Your daughter can choose who can see her location on snapchat, my daughter doesn't let everyone see her location but she lets me.

FlabMonsterIsDietingAgain · 25/06/2024 11:20

@armyofants it's the Apple password manager that stores and autofills your password.

If you use that on your Apple device and have it backed up to the cloud so your passwords share across your phone and iPad and Mac for example, then if you set up shared iCloud with your child, your child will have access to your passwords

You can still set up family sharing and parental controls just don't share your iCloud or if you really want to then don't back up your passwords to the cloud.

RedHelenB · 25/06/2024 11:17

Lilacapples · 25/06/2024 09:58

Definitely non negotiable. My kids are 17 and 18 and still have their location on. My 18 year actually messages me most weekends at 4am (bless her!) to tell me she’s getting an Uber and can I follow it home on snap chat 🙄.

You need to nip that in the bud. Why on earth do you want to be awake at 4am?