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Anyone ever re registered a birth, can you help me with this please? Very anxious

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wprriep · 24/06/2024 22:31

Next month I have an appointment to re register my daughter’s birth to add her dad to the certificate. He left me before birth and left the country so was unable to be added the first time (he specifically said he didn’t want to be on it). I am worrying a lot about whether they will ask the reason for the re registration/why he wasn’t on it the first time? I have huge trauma from what happened and whilst I am ok now (and happy for him to be on it) I really don’t want to have to re live it and explain the circumstances back then. Does anyone know if they will ask this?

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Tandora · 25/06/2024 10:07

Why on earth are you facilitating this for him?
I wouldn’t be putting him on it. You are making a foolish mistake.

If you are going to though, and they ask, just say he was out of the country and not able to be contacted.
Thats the truth.

ThatVoodooThatYouDoooo · 25/06/2024 10:07

wprriep · 25/06/2024 10:05

@Unexpectedlysinglemum thanks. People keep saying don’t put him on but the reality is he IS her dad and it’s HER certificate and he can go through various processes to add himself anyway if he wanted to. Did you double barrel the surname?

He may be her dad, but you are her mum.

What do you want?

Are you happy with her name? Does she have your name? if so do not change it

wprriep · 25/06/2024 10:05

@Unexpectedlysinglemum thanks. People keep saying don’t put him on but the reality is he IS her dad and it’s HER certificate and he can go through various processes to add himself anyway if he wanted to. Did you double barrel the surname?

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Unexpectedlysinglemum · 25/06/2024 10:03

NCfor24 · 25/06/2024 09:31

I'm a registrar and we don't ask and don't care. If he's there and confirms he is the father he goes on.

However, why would you do this? If he really wants to be on it let him push it through. Have him take you to court to be on there.
There is no advantage to having him on there.
Loads of birth certificates don't have father's details and no one cares in this day and age.
I don't understand why you would give this person parental responsibility, he failed at the first hurdle.
And as @DeliciousApples said I would be really nervous if I even had a tiny fear he could take the child abroad for a holiday and not return them.
Let him be in their life, fine. Don't relinquish any parental responsibility.
If it's all great in the future then he can even be added at child's choice when they are an adult.
I've done re-registration for adults who wanted father added to obtain dual nationality and it isn't an issue at all.

Maybe he has already threatened court and she's decided to save everyone the bother.

Maybe she is trying to avoid court as if he gets a court date he can add all sorts of other things onto the agenda.

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 25/06/2024 10:01

Hi there I did exactly this a few weeks ago. They didn't ask any questions at all they were totally professional. Don't be anxious. IF they ask you can say he was abroad or that it's none of their business but there's not a chance they will. It's quite common that a dad might be out of the country or ill or something (in my case I didn't trust him and he threatened me with court if I didn't do it so I just gave in as I didn't want to go to court and risk him adding child arrangements onto the agenda too)

Onefellfromtheappletree · 25/06/2024 09:42

I didn't get DS1 father on birth certificate first time round as tbh I didn't think he needed to be there as long as he signed the online form.

Turns out the online form has to be done by a solicitor etc but anyway, not once was I asked why he wasn't on the original certificate etc, and was very easy to pop him on there

NCfor24 · 25/06/2024 09:31

I'm a registrar and we don't ask and don't care. If he's there and confirms he is the father he goes on.

However, why would you do this? If he really wants to be on it let him push it through. Have him take you to court to be on there.
There is no advantage to having him on there.
Loads of birth certificates don't have father's details and no one cares in this day and age.
I don't understand why you would give this person parental responsibility, he failed at the first hurdle.
And as @DeliciousApples said I would be really nervous if I even had a tiny fear he could take the child abroad for a holiday and not return them.
Let him be in their life, fine. Don't relinquish any parental responsibility.
If it's all great in the future then he can even be added at child's choice when they are an adult.
I've done re-registration for adults who wanted father added to obtain dual nationality and it isn't an issue at all.

Demelzatheredhaired · 25/06/2024 09:30

And if you do need a reason prepared to help you feel less anxious. ‘We weren’t married and he was out the country at the time and then we just never got round to it.’

TaraTories · 25/06/2024 09:29

DeliciousApples · 25/06/2024 09:05

Is there a good reason why his name is to be on it? Is he a bit unreliable?

I know you don't want to hear negativity, but I'm always a bit wary of dads from other countries wanting to be on birth certificates and passports in case their family want them to 'bring the child on holiday' which turns into a kidnapping and the mother never sees her child again as she has no rights in that country...

So be sure you want this change made.

All the mums that lost kids this way probably wanted to do the right thing and put dad on the passport etc.
I'd resist. Let him do it if he must.

Sorry if I'm way out of order, just trying to help. I have been on MN too long to not have The Fear!

Yes, me too. Too many dads take kids on holidays and never return... Also if he is on there he can cause issues with stopping you taking DC abroad (I know a man who delighted in vetoeing holidays for his kids because he could). It's often used as a tool to be vindictive against the mother with no thought to the actual child.

Demelzatheredhaired · 25/06/2024 09:28

They are not going to ask for details of why you want to add the father now and didn’t before.
You can just say, ´we’re reregistering to include her father on the certificate.´ You don’t have to volunteer the ins and outs of why now and not then. It’s a regular occurrence for the registry office, they won’t bat an eyelid.

sevsal · 25/06/2024 09:26

You are overthinking. If they do ask just tell them he was away working at the time.

ludocris · 25/06/2024 09:25

If the father wants to go on the birth certificate there is very little a mother can do to prevent it happening.

Maybe but the father will have to jump through a few hoops to get there if the mother is not in agreement, and even then he won't automatically get parental rights.

AlliumLake · 25/06/2024 09:24

wprriep · 24/06/2024 22:58

He’s been in her life a few years now. I am ok with him being on there. Plus he could just apply to go on there anyway even if I resisted.

So let him handle it? I have to say that him saying he’s going to refuse to answer any questions about why he wasn’t there when the OP’s daughter was first registered makes him sound belligerent and incapable of taking responsibility for his own shitty actions.

mitogoshi · 25/06/2024 09:23

Just state he wasn't able to attend the appointment due to being out of the country and you have only just got around to doing it, they won't press further, just make sure you want this

TomatoSandwiches · 25/06/2024 09:23

He can do this all by himself op, stop facilitating this shameful POS and make him take responsibility for his past misdeeds, it's the very least he can do.

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 25/06/2024 09:22

@Needmorelego

so did he…..

Needmorelego · 25/06/2024 09:21

@Allthegoodnamesarechosen oh yes that's the guy - I just had his party wrong 😂

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 25/06/2024 09:18

‘I think it was the leader of the Liberal Democrats who didn't even realise and went to register his new baby by himself but discovered he couldn't do it because he wasn't married to the mother at the Time’.

It was Ed Milliband, at the time Leader of the Opposition. Nice demonstration of competence there.

I don’t see how ‘the father’ can be added without the mother’s active participation, as suggested upthread. Surely anyone could just turn up and put their name on a ‘un fathered’ child. The registrars are not investigative officials, they follow the rules ( though will report suspicious activities like forced or convenience ‘marriages’)

Needmorelego · 25/06/2024 09:15

I doubt they will ask.
When a couple is unmarried the father has to be there when the registration takes place. Because of that there are a lot of dads not on the certificate.
(from watching many an episode of Jeremy Kyle a lot of dads aren't on the birth certificate because "I couldn't get time off work to go to the appointment")
So many people don't even realise that rule. I think it was the leader of the Liberal Democrats who didn't even realise and went to register his new baby by himself but discovered he couldn't do it because he wasn't married to the mother at the time.
There will be 1001 reasons why a dad's name isn't on the original certificate - I seriously doubt the registrar will be that interested.
You will just be one appointment in their busy day.

Soontobe60 · 25/06/2024 09:11

HcbSS · 24/06/2024 22:39

It might not be your question but it will certainly be many other people’s.
Don’t be daft OP… you have a child to think about.

If the father wants to go on the birth certificate there is very little a mother can do to prevent it happening.

DeliciousApples · 25/06/2024 09:05

Is there a good reason why his name is to be on it? Is he a bit unreliable?

I know you don't want to hear negativity, but I'm always a bit wary of dads from other countries wanting to be on birth certificates and passports in case their family want them to 'bring the child on holiday' which turns into a kidnapping and the mother never sees her child again as she has no rights in that country...

So be sure you want this change made.

All the mums that lost kids this way probably wanted to do the right thing and put dad on the passport etc.
I'd resist. Let him do it if he must.

Sorry if I'm way out of order, just trying to help. I have been on MN too long to not have The Fear!

Snowtea · 24/06/2024 23:04

I reregistered my son when he was 16. His dad left me when I was pregnant but we managed to resolve issues enough that he was a part of my sons life.
It was across two countries but no questions were asked except are you the father - it was very business like - no intrusive questions.

It was useful in that my son is now a dual national but he didn’t change his surname and I didn’t share parental responsibility

hope that helps

OhcantthInkofaname · 24/06/2024 23:03

wprriep · 24/06/2024 22:58

He’s been in her life a few years now. I am ok with him being on there. Plus he could just apply to go on there anyway even if I resisted.

Then let him take the responsibility to do it!

wprriep · 24/06/2024 22:58

He’s been in her life a few years now. I am ok with him being on there. Plus he could just apply to go on there anyway even if I resisted.

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ASandwichNamedKevin · 24/06/2024 22:56

Oh and if it needs to be said, don’t give the child your ex’s surname.