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AIBU to “steal” this?

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AmiABadPersonn · 24/06/2024 20:43

Hello everyone I just want your opinions on this as today I’ve been in a heated argument with my friend as to wether I am unreasonable or not.

I am off work on maternity leave so the funds are tight at minute. There is a man who lives near me I believe he is drug user, he sells half price stuff and also takes orders on what you want for half price. He knocks on my house about 1 or 2 times a week with a bag of half price goods. I always buy washing detergent and softeners from him because you can get a whole weeks laundry of the nice brands for around £10. Money is tight as I have just had a baby and I have 2 other children with my husband also. i also sometimes get baby milk formula from him if I’m running low because it’s cheap.

I feel like this is not wrong because if I didn’t buy it other people would. Even if no one bought it he would steal it anyway in hopes someone would buy it eventually.

Today my friend was at my house when he came so I offered her to have a look what he had. She immediately asked him where he got this stuff from and he replied “shop”. She didn’t say much after but when I finished buying my items she started shouting about how I’m funding his drugs addiction and I shouldn’t support it because I am now stealing too. I told her to relax it’s fine it’s only a couple of items. She didn’t say much and finished her coffee and left quick.

So am I morally wrong for this? Or would you do the same?

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Kilofoxtrot99 · 26/06/2024 19:58

On a practical note- if he is a meth user, anything stored in his house will have remnants of meth residue on it, which if you or your baby are exposed to could have very serious ill effects. Google meth users environment contamination in social housing. Have had children brought in to A&E at times that live with users and they have developed a toxic reaction to drugs especially meth, from crawling on the floor etc, not even ingesting it. Grim. And it’s theft if you are buying stolen goods.

Clan labs (meth labs)A property or area used to manufacture or 'cook' meth or other illicit drugs is a clandestine laboratory (clan lab). They can generate high levels of persistent and invisible drug and chemical residues throughout a house and pose a substantial health risk.

NeedMoreHeadSpce · 26/06/2024 19:51

Wow, never known this before. Get yourself to Poundland or B&M instead!! And get some principles too while you’re at it!

DrJackDaniels · 26/06/2024 19:42

My parents were burgled recently and then some neighbours down the road. Among other things they stole my mother’s stock of Lenor fabric softener and Ariel washing powder. My mum buys them when on offer and stocks up.

Their neighbours also had washing powder stolen, 3 tubs of baby formula, dishwasher tablets and other essentials.

All of these would have been sold on to people like you. You’re encouraging burglary and drug use. I can’t believe you think this is ok

ISeriouslyDoubtIt · 26/06/2024 19:40

Dear god, presumably all these people justifying theft are teaching their children that buying stolen goods is a perfectly acceptable way of living. What hope is there for those children with parents like that? They'll no doubt grow up with the same lack of any moral compass, think if they want something there's no need to work for it or save up, just get it from the local junkie thief.
How about teaching your children that working hard at school will give them qualifications and therefore a better life, help them rise out of their appalling background with no need to buy stolen goods?
I bet these people are the type that thinks it's fine to mess around and leave school with nothing. They belong to the underclass and unfortunately their children will stay there, because their parents aren't doing a single thing to encourage them to get out.
All the schemes to help social mobility are useless when people are brought up thinking theft is justifiable.
Anyone on this thread who's tried to justify theft or buying stolen goods is just a total lowlife.

Bernardo1 · 26/06/2024 19:36

Yes.

EalingLucy · 26/06/2024 19:34

Those scent balls are completely unnecessary and bad for your baby’s health.

EalingLucy · 26/06/2024 19:34

£10 on washing a week?! That’s insane. Just get an eco egg - it’s about £14 and lasts around 2 years with a couple of refills!

sassafrassj · 26/06/2024 19:31

AmiABadPersonn · 24/06/2024 23:57

I don’t think I said this before but other users are saying if I don’t buy from him he won’t steal, but he will there’s weeks were I don’t buy stuff he still has a bag full the next time. The £10 a week is on laundry pods, softener , stain remover and laundry scent balls from persil or lenor. The balls alone are £8 in Asda. As for the baby milk it’s always sealed so I know he hasn’t contaminated it and I know others locally that buy from him too.

Aside from all the rest of it, which has been commented on heavily, if you're short of money why are you buying scent pods? Those things are not good for your kids or your indoor air quality! Seriously unnecessary and you clearly don't need the additional expense.

Lulubum · 26/06/2024 19:24

AmiABadPersonn · 25/06/2024 01:30

I’m so sorry for what has happened but this is completely different. What your sibling faced is an aggravated burglary and Abh/gbh, this is theft from a shop no one is being beaten up or abused.

"No one is being beaten or abused"????? Are you really that clueless. I work in a supermarket, know someone who was taken to hospital after being smashed in the face several times with a shopping basket after challenging a shop lifter, another who got bit and broke the skin by another shop lifter, another lady I work with got a sign thrown at her and had to go to hospital with concussion and a security guard who was stabbed. And people like you are encouraging these people to continue what they are doing. And those saying it's from a big supermarket who make huge profits anyways are a part of the problem too. Those that work in the supermarkets are the ones being abused, we're not the ones making the profits. Yes let's all support the local independent shops, close all the supermarkets making huge profit, and leave hundreds of thousands people jobless.

Teasloth · 26/06/2024 19:23

And all the bollocks about being too skint to afford it blah blah blah. It's crap isn't it.
You're spending a tenner on laundry liquid a week so you're not that skint.

I'm on a very very low income and have about £120 a month for food, toiletries, cleaning stuff etc.
I'd STILL never buy stolen goods off a junkie, or anyone else for that matter

Maybe take a leaf out of your friends book

helen32 · 26/06/2024 19:22

Are you for real?
Imagine if we all took this attitude!
If you can’t afford kids stop having them.
You should be ashamed of yourself, you’re no better than he is.
No wonder the country is going to shit with people like this!

Teasloth · 26/06/2024 19:19

Are you serious.

It's people like you and him that are making the prices unaffordable for everyone as all the supermarkets do it push the prices up to cover the losses

Buy Tesco liquid, £3 and lasts me about 3 weeks

I'd you wouldn't walk in and take it yourself then I actually see you as worse than him.

And buying baby formula from a junkie 🤦‍♀️
My god I've heard it all now

pomers · 26/06/2024 19:05

Please don’t buy the formula in case it is in some way damaged. I read about a child who died as a drug dealer had hidden drugs cut with baby formula in a tin

Marveladdict · 26/06/2024 18:59

How can you steal baby formula when it is security tagged and usually in a secure box - snatch and run ? How does the OP remove the tag? So many questions…

MartyFunkhouser · 26/06/2024 18:58

Blimey, MN has really gone downhill.

Cfcbaz · 26/06/2024 18:55

I buy stuff from the local crackheads all the time. Needs must and times are tough. I'm with you here

EMUKE · 26/06/2024 18:52

milkysmum · 24/06/2024 20:48

I'd buy stuff, as would most people I know to be honest.

SNAP, I grew up poorer than poor. I understand people morals but if it wasn’t you buying it, someone else would. It makes no difference to me if I need something and someone’s selling it cheap I’m buying it. He could be robbing people for cash his probs stealing from a massive cooperate company. Don’t worry but what you need and thank him. As long as your not placing weekly shopping ordered I’d say your all ok.

MumMRM · 26/06/2024 18:50

You should be absolutely disgusted with yourself, what example are you showing your children? What about those poor shops who profits he is stealing? If you do not buy it, someone else will is a terrible excuse to buy it without guilt! People like you are what is wrong with this country!

Bournetilly · 26/06/2024 18:50

Technically it is wrong but I’d consider buying off him too and would not mind if a friend did.

There are probably some people relying on him.

£10 a week on laundry is crazy though!

OneTC · 26/06/2024 18:48

It's not even that someone could have injected it, it might not even be stolen, it could just be some clone product made fuck knows where out of milk hopefully that their boss bought a pallet of and needs gone

DeeDoyle · 26/06/2024 18:43

AmiABadPersonn · 25/06/2024 01:30

I’m so sorry for what has happened but this is completely different. What your sibling faced is an aggravated burglary and Abh/gbh, this is theft from a shop no one is being beaten up or abused.

Sorry but you dont know what lengths he is going to or where he is getting the stuff and I doubt you care, you are knowingly handling stolen goods, having a drug user at your house where your kids are, buying formula from him that could contain god knows what,it may be sealed but you wouldnt notice if anything was injected into it. Great parenting!!

You think cos you arent ordering he isnt stealing for you?? Anyone selling anything, will provide what they KNOW will sell. Trust me he is stealing the items he KNOWS you will buy.

llamajohn · 26/06/2024 18:37

Ok, OP, if shop lifting is a victimless crime and it's no bug deal, go to the shop yourself and steal the stuff....

llamajohn · 26/06/2024 18:36

AmiABadPersonn · 25/06/2024 01:30

I’m so sorry for what has happened but this is completely different. What your sibling faced is an aggravated burglary and Abh/gbh, this is theft from a shop no one is being beaten up or abused.

Just lumping us with the higher bill, because if theft.

You're a twat OP.

DuesToTheDirt · 26/06/2024 18:36

Poddledoddle · 26/06/2024 18:26

Shoplifting is one of those things I really don't care about. You got a bargain. Well done for making sure your baby had milk. Wish someone would knock on my door like that.

Oh come on.

Shop assistants are getting threatened and abused by shoplifters. If they see someone shoplifting, they are putting themselves at risk if they intervene. Recently I saw a couple physically going for the security staff at our local supermarket.

And it then puts the prices up for everyone else. So it affects us all. The ones who pay for things, anyway.

TheOnionEyes · 26/06/2024 18:34

So this drug user has illegally stolen from some supermarket who are legally robbing us and who intend to keep on unreasonably doing so 🤔

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