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AIBU to “steal” this?

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AmiABadPersonn · 24/06/2024 20:43

Hello everyone I just want your opinions on this as today I’ve been in a heated argument with my friend as to wether I am unreasonable or not.

I am off work on maternity leave so the funds are tight at minute. There is a man who lives near me I believe he is drug user, he sells half price stuff and also takes orders on what you want for half price. He knocks on my house about 1 or 2 times a week with a bag of half price goods. I always buy washing detergent and softeners from him because you can get a whole weeks laundry of the nice brands for around £10. Money is tight as I have just had a baby and I have 2 other children with my husband also. i also sometimes get baby milk formula from him if I’m running low because it’s cheap.

I feel like this is not wrong because if I didn’t buy it other people would. Even if no one bought it he would steal it anyway in hopes someone would buy it eventually.

Today my friend was at my house when he came so I offered her to have a look what he had. She immediately asked him where he got this stuff from and he replied “shop”. She didn’t say much after but when I finished buying my items she started shouting about how I’m funding his drugs addiction and I shouldn’t support it because I am now stealing too. I told her to relax it’s fine it’s only a couple of items. She didn’t say much and finished her coffee and left quick.

So am I morally wrong for this? Or would you do the same?

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JaniceBattersby · 24/06/2024 21:24

I spend a lot of time in magistrates’ courts covering the cases of persistent shoplifters. They are undoubtedly funding a crack or heroin habit. Not only that, but these people frequently walk into shops, swipe as much as they want off the shelves and terrify the shop assistants. They’ll think nothing of using a knife if needs be, or threatening shop workers. I’ve seen several assistants giving victim personal statements in court saying that they’ve had to leave their jobs and have been left anxious and depressed after such incidents.

Many little shops round here have had to install full time
security guards for their entire opening hours, costing them 60k a year.

I wouldn’t be funding that shit however skint I was.

Chatonette · 24/06/2024 21:22

Of course you’re wrong for buying stolen goods. Why is this even a question?

SD1978 · 24/06/2024 21:22

Yes, you are and no I wouldn't. You can justify it in 9 different ways but your friend is correct. He steal items to sell them for drugs. You then buy stolen items and justify it to yourself. I wouldn't do it, I haven't done it, and if I was doing it I would have said no thank you when I had a friend there and not tried to make her a part of it.

viques · 24/06/2024 21:20

boredm · 24/06/2024 21:09

It is wrong to steal from small businesses, not supermarkets. Food and hygiene should be a right

It is wrong to steal from any business, and remember, she isn’t the one doing the stealing, the stealing is being done by someone with a drug habit, who is then using the money the OP and others give him to line the pockets of drug dealers, contributing to horrendous violence and corruption in countries where the drugs are grown, and also here in the UK where cannabis farms and pill factories are owned by criminals but run by trafficked young people ,and where children are exploited by county lines organisers who draw them into criminality, often leading to gang cultures and the horrendous stories we read about knife and gun crime. It’s a big jump from someone buying knocked off washing powder, but believe me, the links are all there.

And if you want to talk money I expect trafficking and drug dealing is a lot more profitable at the top than most politicians, or supermarket bosses could dream of.

S0livagant · 24/06/2024 21:19

I'd buy the formula if I was struggling to make ends meet. £10 a week for laundry though? A big box of supermarket brand powder lasts me months, you only need half of what it says. I use white vinegar for softener as we have hard water, 5L containers. I should work out what it costs me but it's pence per week.

Matronic6 · 24/06/2024 21:19

I am shocked you can spend £10 a week on laundry products but are tight on money.
That seems an awful lot to even spend in store.
Personally, I would consider this stealing as you know that's exactly how it has been obtained. So you are partaking in it knowingly.

I wouldn't point this out to a friend but I wouldn't give them a hard time over it. Though I would firmly suggest if saving money is that important you can definitely by cheaper in lidl or aldi and this would be an honest purchase.

Purplebunnie · 24/06/2024 21:19

You are supporting the drugs trade which inflicts misery on hundreds of people and supports organised crime

Whilst I sympathise with your plight I cannot in all conscience condone your actions

See what benefits you are entitled to. Also visit your local food bank.

Alwaystired23 · 24/06/2024 21:19

I think you are morally wrong, and no, I wouldn't do the same. No way ever in a million years, even if hell froze over, would I give my baby milk off a drug addict. God knows how that's been stored or what's in it. Your baby could potentially be very ill. Why take the risk?

FatmanandKnobbin · 24/06/2024 21:18

If op was so skint she had to shoplift baby formula I wouldn't say a word, and I would sympathise.

She is funding someone's drug habit, and a world where people get hurt, murdered and trafficked to get a branded laundry items though.

MonsteraMama · 24/06/2024 21:18

I genuinely know someone who did six months for this, buying obviously stolen goods off some dodgy fucker. They, like you, thought that they were in the clear because they weren't doing the stealing. They, like you, are a dumbass.

How well you think you'll be able to do your £10 a week worth of laundry or feed your child if you get done for handling stolen goods?

TwattyMcFuckFace · 24/06/2024 21:18

Everyone taking it seriously though 🤣

SiobhanSharpe · 24/06/2024 21:18

SuperGreens · 24/06/2024 21:15

Couldn't care less. That the CEO of Tesco got a $12.6 million bonus this year (what cost of living crisis eh) strikes me as bigger issue in the realm of theft and wrong doing. Carry on as far as I'm concerned.

I don't entirely disagree but this could turn out very badly indeed for the OP. (And her DC.)

FormerlyPathologicallyHappy · 24/06/2024 21:17

I’m also wondering how you can spend £10 a week on laundry detergent.

I just use own brand and everything’s clean.

TwattyMcFuckFace · 24/06/2024 21:17

I was just about to say "Are you really this bored OP?"

Then I realised you lit the touch paper and ran anyway 🙄

saraclara · 24/06/2024 21:16

It's incredibly unwise of you to do this. It's all been pretty much covered by others, but the most important bits are that you're risking precision yourself, and your feeding your baby formula from a potentially unsafe source.

SuperGreens · 24/06/2024 21:15

Couldn't care less. That the CEO of Tesco got a $12.6 million bonus this year (what cost of living crisis eh) strikes me as bigger issue in the realm of theft and wrong doing. Carry on as far as I'm concerned.

AffIt · 24/06/2024 21:14

boredm · 24/06/2024 21:00

People are going hungry while supermarkets profit and it's a disgrace

What a pile of fucking horseshit.

Somebody who is spending £40 A MONTH on laundry detergent clearly isn't 'going hungry'.

I've been properly, bones of my arse, 'when will I next eat?' poor and trust me, at no stage was I buying shoplifted Lenor off a junkie.

MrsSkylerWhite · 24/06/2024 21:14

You’re buying baby formula from an addict/dealer?

You need your head examined.

Packingcubesqueen · 24/06/2024 21:14

It’s wrong, it’s theft and you are funding his drug habit. You probably won’t get caught but if he does he might go to prison stealing the things for you. If it was my friend, I wouldn’t pass comment though, it’s not my place to scold a fully grown adult.

Pelham678 · 24/06/2024 21:13

Justcallmebebes · 24/06/2024 21:05

Can't say I'd buy or encourage him, but I am staggered at the shock horror double standards here. A couple of posts recently talking about people working and claiming benefits but general consensus was to butt out and mind your own business Hmm. Theft is theft, no?

Different people posting?

There is a MYOB culture in MN where a sizeable group think you should MYOB about everything immoral. I don't know how they'd feel about directly buying this guy's drugs because that's what's indirectly happening here.

I don't agree with either scenario but people like the OP will tie themselves in knots trying to defend it.

AlwaysGinPlease · 24/06/2024 21:12

i also sometimes get baby milk formula from him if I’m running low because it’s cheap

Jesus. I wouldn't feed my dogs food from someone like that let alone give a baby formula from him! You're crazy. You don't have a clue what's in it.

SiobhanSharpe · 24/06/2024 21:11

A couple of years ago a bloke who lives opposite us was convicted of theft and sent down for a few years. His wife/partner was convicted of receiving or handling stolen goods, also received a jail sentence and I think has just come out now. It may not have been a first offence.
You are risking jail time, OP.
I get that times are very tough but it could get a lot tougher for you and your family if you go to prison.

WormBum · 24/06/2024 21:11

£10 a week on laundry? Wtf.

LlamaTwirl · 24/06/2024 21:11

You are morally wrong for doing this. I'd probably do it too, wouldn't steal from a shop myself though.

Sirzy · 24/06/2024 21:11

I don’t know why people are making out like the OP is skint. Someone who is skint isn’t spending £10 on laundry products a week!