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AIBU to “steal” this?

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AmiABadPersonn · 24/06/2024 20:43

Hello everyone I just want your opinions on this as today I’ve been in a heated argument with my friend as to wether I am unreasonable or not.

I am off work on maternity leave so the funds are tight at minute. There is a man who lives near me I believe he is drug user, he sells half price stuff and also takes orders on what you want for half price. He knocks on my house about 1 or 2 times a week with a bag of half price goods. I always buy washing detergent and softeners from him because you can get a whole weeks laundry of the nice brands for around £10. Money is tight as I have just had a baby and I have 2 other children with my husband also. i also sometimes get baby milk formula from him if I’m running low because it’s cheap.

I feel like this is not wrong because if I didn’t buy it other people would. Even if no one bought it he would steal it anyway in hopes someone would buy it eventually.

Today my friend was at my house when he came so I offered her to have a look what he had. She immediately asked him where he got this stuff from and he replied “shop”. She didn’t say much after but when I finished buying my items she started shouting about how I’m funding his drugs addiction and I shouldn’t support it because I am now stealing too. I told her to relax it’s fine it’s only a couple of items. She didn’t say much and finished her coffee and left quick.

So am I morally wrong for this? Or would you do the same?

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Marchitectmummy · 24/06/2024 21:36

Of course you are wrong to buy it, you don't need mumsnet to tell you that though do you. To me you are as bad as tbe thief, but can't imagine that would worry you much.

lemonmeringueno3 · 24/06/2024 21:36

Lolaandbehold · 24/06/2024 21:10

Morally, of course you’re wrong. It’s wrong in so many ways.
That said I am not sure I wouldn’t do the same if funds were tight.
What’s that saying about never judging someone until you’ve walked in their shoes?

Wouldn't you just buy non-branded, cheaper stuff though? Not buy stolen stuff from a junkie so you can have the nice brands

CurlewKate · 24/06/2024 21:35

Did she really "shout"?

Moonlightdust · 24/06/2024 21:34

Buying baby formula from a druggie 🤨

dubberrucky · 24/06/2024 21:34

People on here truly TRULY cannot comprehend poverty. They think they can, but they don’t.

NamelessNancy · 24/06/2024 21:34

Oh I do hope OP comes back. I need to hear more about the laundry situation. Between OP and I one of us is definitely laundering wrongly!

SonicTheHodgeheg · 24/06/2024 21:34

Yes you’re wrong.

Drugs are responsible for so much misery and crime in the world and it’s victims include children and other vulnerable people.

If you were buying stuff because you didn’t have money then I wouldn’t have replied to this but £10pw on laundry stuff is not poverty lol I’m a household of 4 adults and we are like a fiver a month.

Personally I wouldn’t trust a druggie to sell me uncontaminated formula. They are not exactly ethical or rational people so would easily do something impulsively and without thought of try consequences.

The CEO of Tesco may be paid £12m but violence against retail workers are at a level where supermarket workers have body cams. People shouldn’t have to deal with that kind of safety threat.

Fishcake15 · 24/06/2024 21:33

Runnerinthenight · 24/06/2024 21:30

Well then maybe two babies was sufficient!! Disgusting behaviour!

People do fall on hard times after children are born you know! Redundancy...death of a partner? How judgemental.

Runnerinthenight · 24/06/2024 21:33

milkysmum · 24/06/2024 20:48

I'd buy stuff, as would most people I know to be honest.

I don't think much of the type of people you're hanging out with. I'd be deeply shocked if anyone I know would do this!

WinterMorn · 24/06/2024 21:33

SuperGreens · 24/06/2024 21:15

Couldn't care less. That the CEO of Tesco got a $12.6 million bonus this year (what cost of living crisis eh) strikes me as bigger issue in the realm of theft and wrong doing. Carry on as far as I'm concerned.

And that attitude has a lot to do with why we are in the mess we are. Welcome to Britain 2024 😐

Batyhatty · 24/06/2024 21:33

So you’re feeding your baby with knock off baby formula from God knows where from a drug addict?? That sounds like a reasonable decision - Not!

Runnerinthenight · 24/06/2024 21:32

Comedycook · 24/06/2024 20:48

I don't think you're lacking a moral compass.

I think you're lacking money.

I think she is lacking a moral compass. Who spends a tenner a week washing clothes anyway?!

ChampagneLassie · 24/06/2024 21:32

I buy Ecover from Ocado and I’m not spending anything like £10 a week.

SendNoodles · 24/06/2024 21:31

So am I morally wrong for this?
Yes, of course. You are knowingly buying stolen goods.

Or would you do the same?
No, I wouldn't do it in my current position. Even if I were absolutely desperate, I like to think that I'd exhaust all other options first before doing something immoral (see above). This could also include wearing clothes more times before washing them.

scrapsontheside · 24/06/2024 21:31

Stealing just increases the price for everyone
You are handling stolen goods whilst basically lying to yourself , you know it's wrong.

goingdownfighting · 24/06/2024 21:31

He's having you on. Hes got you bloody addicted to laundry detergent.

Try the doctor Beckmann dissolvable leaves. So much cheaper on Amazon. About 4 quid for 25 washes or something.

And fabric conditioner is a con.

Soak your all whites in a little bleach and soak them and put them on a wash and you'll clean your washing machine too.

He's not daft. Couldn't get you on the drugs so gets you on laundry.

Runnerinthenight · 24/06/2024 21:30

Fishcake15 · 24/06/2024 20:46

Moral compass goes out of the window when you need and can't afford baby milk.

Well then maybe two babies was sufficient!! Disgusting behaviour!

Smartstuffed · 24/06/2024 21:30

I think you're a bit of a muppet. You admit money is tight but still want the 'nice' brands. You'd rather buy stuff from this shady character than look for a better deal. Oh dear..

SlashBeef · 24/06/2024 21:29

I wouldn't actually be worried about the drugs aspect. If he wants to get drugs he'll find a way.
You are handling stolen goods though so I'd be concerned about ramifications of that.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 24/06/2024 21:27

If you're happy with your tenner being the tenner that he dies from, I guess. Or the tenner that his kid dies from because his gear's lying around. Or the pushout he does where he stabs the security guard to get away. Or he decides that because he got stopped doing a pushout he was going to sell to you, nicking that old lady's purse and punching her husband in the face to get away. Failing that, he knows your movements, what the inside of your house looks like (and if there's anything worth nicking) - maybe he'll come by when you're out.

But you got a cheap pack of Fairy.

Agapornis · 24/06/2024 21:27

Beyond the ethical side of theft, you need to calculate whether it's actually a good deal.

Is there a B&M near you? Mine sells Daz laundry liquid for about 75 washes for £9 - 12p a wash. Surely you don't do 75 washes a week?
Also, pods are more expensive than liquid. E.g. Daz pods are £10 for 54 washes - 18.5p a wash. 6.5p difference doesn't sound like much, but 1/3 or 33% more does!

S0livagant · 24/06/2024 21:27

S0livagant · 24/06/2024 21:19

I'd buy the formula if I was struggling to make ends meet. £10 a week for laundry though? A big box of supermarket brand powder lasts me months, you only need half of what it says. I use white vinegar for softener as we have hard water, 5L containers. I should work out what it costs me but it's pence per week.

Aldi washing powder, £3.75 for 40 washes. Works well with half, so 4.7p per wash.

White vinegar on Amazon £17 for 20 litres. I last bought it May 2023 and I have about 7 litres left. I use free trials of Prime.

Wexone · 24/06/2024 21:27

Sweet Jesus this is why tescos have their baby milk with security tags? I couldn't belive it when I saw that. seriously if you are struggling there is help for yoi reach out for it. do food banks offer baby milk ? also no need to spend that much in laundrey. washing powder always on offer and you do not need scent boosters and fabric conditioner. there is alos own brand verisions and aldi or lidl which are excellent products..you are questioning yourself now so you know its wrong

PassingStranger · 24/06/2024 21:26

boredm · 24/06/2024 21:00

People are going hungry while supermarkets profit and it's a disgrace

Supermarket are a business, not a charity.
Lots of people claim they need food but in fact their priorities are all wrong and they can afford to smoke, drink and gamble.

SoupChicken · 24/06/2024 21:25

I’d think you were scum tbh, I’m not surprised your friend went off in a hurry.

If you can’t afford baby formula then there are charities and food banks that will help you, otherwise I’d rather steal it myself than buy it off a drug addict.