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AIBU to “steal” this?

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AmiABadPersonn · 24/06/2024 20:43

Hello everyone I just want your opinions on this as today I’ve been in a heated argument with my friend as to wether I am unreasonable or not.

I am off work on maternity leave so the funds are tight at minute. There is a man who lives near me I believe he is drug user, he sells half price stuff and also takes orders on what you want for half price. He knocks on my house about 1 or 2 times a week with a bag of half price goods. I always buy washing detergent and softeners from him because you can get a whole weeks laundry of the nice brands for around £10. Money is tight as I have just had a baby and I have 2 other children with my husband also. i also sometimes get baby milk formula from him if I’m running low because it’s cheap.

I feel like this is not wrong because if I didn’t buy it other people would. Even if no one bought it he would steal it anyway in hopes someone would buy it eventually.

Today my friend was at my house when he came so I offered her to have a look what he had. She immediately asked him where he got this stuff from and he replied “shop”. She didn’t say much after but when I finished buying my items she started shouting about how I’m funding his drugs addiction and I shouldn’t support it because I am now stealing too. I told her to relax it’s fine it’s only a couple of items. She didn’t say much and finished her coffee and left quick.

So am I morally wrong for this? Or would you do the same?

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Fluffypuppy1 · 24/06/2024 21:47

WormBum · 24/06/2024 21:11

£10 a week on laundry? Wtf.

This.

I’m really interested in hearing about the supposed luxury laundry products that cost £10 per week (when that’s a massive discount). I buy brand products and don’t spend anywhere near that amount.

HariusPotter · 24/06/2024 21:46

There but for the grace of God, go I...

HariusPotter · 24/06/2024 21:46

If your bloke works you can't get milk vouchers.

TheOccupier · 24/06/2024 21:46

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MultiplaLight · 24/06/2024 21:46

A tenner a week on laundry, no wonder money is tight.

Speak to your HV about formula vouchers.

Stop buying this stuff.

CalicoPusscat · 24/06/2024 21:45

Did you mean £10 a month...?

Another one struggling with the cost.

The ethics: if I was worried and very poor I'd be tempted.

HariusPotter · 24/06/2024 21:44

Is this because you don't get paid for 3rd child?

How much is the baby milk?

StormingNorman · 24/06/2024 21:44

It’s not unreasonable, it’s illegal to buy stolen goods. Either buy your brands full price or buy what you can afford.

For all the PP who say OP is justified because baby milk. This woman is not in food poverty. She spends £10 A WEEK on laundry.

paasll · 24/06/2024 21:43

What the hell is up with spending £10 on laundry stuff per week? For £13 I get a massive thing of ecover laundry liquid (5L) that lasts me months!!! On Amazon.

You don't need softeners or scent stuff or any of that crap.

No, it is not ok to buy stuff from shoplifters.

You mentioned buying formula. Only today, I read an article about Keir Starmer and how he said he would buy someone baby formula if he saw someone who was going to shoplift baby formula. I thought how utterly ignorant and out of touch he was - the majority of baby formula is shoplifted by professionals who are selling it on. Not by people desperate to feed their baby. Not to be a bitch, but breastfeeding is free. I ebf a borderline preemie who had sod all ability to suck.

Keir I hope you read this.

grapesstrawberriesplease · 24/06/2024 21:43

Honest answer - yeah I would too. Supermarkets take us all for a ride. Half of them inflate the prices above food inflation out of pure greed (I know M&S and Tesco were being investigated for unfairly inflating prices fairly recently). It’s absolutely never okay to steal from local or small businesses, but the large supermarkets will not miss a couple hundred pounds worth of washing powder/cleaning products/toiletries etc every week. Even if multiple people are doing it, it won’t make a dent.

We live in a greedy, capitalist society. As long as you’re a good person and you know yourself that you’re kind and doing the best you can, I honestly wouldn’t worry about it. If you were my friend I’d turn a blind eye.

Lopine · 24/06/2024 21:42

I have sympathy for money being tight but getting involved with this is a step too far IMO.

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GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 24/06/2024 21:41

Itiswhysofew · 24/06/2024 20:51

He's wrong for stealing and I think you're wrong for buying, but I wouldn't have reacted as your friend did. I'd be more concerned that you're struggling.

Someone who can spend £10 a week on laundry products cannot really be ‘struggling’.

boredm · 24/06/2024 21:40

MsLuxLisbon · 24/06/2024 21:40

I'm not judging you. I judge a society where formula milk is not free. It ought to be. That said, I think you should probably stop buying from this person as he could be dangerous and also have dodgy mates. Best to not get on that type of person's radar.

I think the supermarkets should be nationalised

Iwasafool · 24/06/2024 21:40

Well of course you are morally wrong, you do know that really don't you. When I go shopping, and all the others on here who do the same, I pay extra to cover the losses the supermarket suffers from these thefts so please stop encouraging this.

Runnerinthenight · 24/06/2024 21:40

OnHisSweaterAlreadyMomsSpaghetti · 24/06/2024 21:01

Agree with this.

we shouldn’t be attacking mums who are struggling to survive. There are a lot of people on high horses here.

buying baby formula and laundry detergent is hardly the crime of the century when we have politicians robbing us blind.

if she was buying a stolen Rolex it would be fair to take a different stance but formula and detergent?

I would turn a blind eye honestly. It’s really not a big deal

Well I wouldn't. Same principle as the Rolex.

People struggling to the extent of buying stolen goods maybe shouldn't have babies they can't afford.

These thieves are stealing from all of us!

scrapsontheside · 24/06/2024 21:40

I would report you to SS for giving your baby formula you bought from a druggie.

MsLuxLisbon · 24/06/2024 21:40

I'm not judging you. I judge a society where formula milk is not free. It ought to be. That said, I think you should probably stop buying from this person as he could be dangerous and also have dodgy mates. Best to not get on that type of person's radar.

lazyarse123 · 24/06/2024 21:39

As someone who works in retail and is struggling with the workload because the hours are always being cut because we are losing literally thousands every month to shoplifters. It's not the big bosses going short it's us poor sods paying the price. Prices go up to compensate, staff morale goes out the window because it's scary watching for thieves all the time and I don't work in a bad area.
Anyway I think you are as bad as the scummy bastard who nicks stuff.

lemonmeringueno3 · 24/06/2024 21:38

dubberrucky · 24/06/2024 21:34

People on here truly TRULY cannot comprehend poverty. They think they can, but they don’t.

Poverty isn't 'I don't want to buy supermarket own brands and prefer the nicer brands' though is it.

Chatonette · 24/06/2024 21:38

NeverDropYourMooncup · 24/06/2024 21:27

If you're happy with your tenner being the tenner that he dies from, I guess. Or the tenner that his kid dies from because his gear's lying around. Or the pushout he does where he stabs the security guard to get away. Or he decides that because he got stopped doing a pushout he was going to sell to you, nicking that old lady's purse and punching her husband in the face to get away. Failing that, he knows your movements, what the inside of your house looks like (and if there's anything worth nicking) - maybe he'll come by when you're out.

But you got a cheap pack of Fairy.

💯 this. Or further down the chain…you are now part of what is furthering the drug cartels and their violence/terrorism/trafficking in Colombia. You need to give your head a wobble and stop contributing to human suffering and misery.

Runnerinthenight · 24/06/2024 21:38

boredm · 24/06/2024 21:00

People are going hungry while supermarkets profit and it's a disgrace

Not an excuse to steal via a junkie!

Marchitectmummy · 24/06/2024 21:37

dubberrucky · 24/06/2024 21:34

People on here truly TRULY cannot comprehend poverty. They think they can, but they don’t.

Buying stollen goods to upgrade washing detergent is not poverty. That is greed.

ChampagneBlossom44 · 24/06/2024 21:37

@AmiABadPersonn I’m not here to say it’s right or wrong, I’ve been desperately skint at times, I do get it.

but please don’t be vulnerable & don’t think this is a person you can trust. My mum used to buy similar bits when I was in my late teens, she couldn’t resist a bargain ever on a small income as a single parent. & we were burgled one night, only our handbags & money & a little bit of jewellery gone luckily. The police got prints & over a year later called to let us know they had arrested 2 people, it went to court & they had burgled another 105 (seriously) houses & were charged with 12 of those, with the rest ‘taken into account’ whatever that means. It was of course the same chap my mum had been buying from & his girlfriend. We had a dog & he didn’t make a peep because he recognised him, he knew where the neighbours security camera was pointing etc & it was really down to having him in the home to sell cut price crap, even just the hallway shows them enough. I’m not saying we deserved it but my mum is not at all streetwise & didn’t consider she was essentially showing him the inside of her house for future robbing, when selling the face cream & Mach 3 blades weren’t bringing in enough income. Addicts don’t generally need less money for their habit as time goes on. Please be careful, the cost of emergency locksmith call out on a Saturday morning cost more than anything she saved on the reduced goods.

Runnerinthenight · 24/06/2024 21:36

boredm · 24/06/2024 20:57

It isn't wrong to do this

You think? How low can people stoop?!!