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AIBU to “steal” this?

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AmiABadPersonn · 24/06/2024 20:43

Hello everyone I just want your opinions on this as today I’ve been in a heated argument with my friend as to wether I am unreasonable or not.

I am off work on maternity leave so the funds are tight at minute. There is a man who lives near me I believe he is drug user, he sells half price stuff and also takes orders on what you want for half price. He knocks on my house about 1 or 2 times a week with a bag of half price goods. I always buy washing detergent and softeners from him because you can get a whole weeks laundry of the nice brands for around £10. Money is tight as I have just had a baby and I have 2 other children with my husband also. i also sometimes get baby milk formula from him if I’m running low because it’s cheap.

I feel like this is not wrong because if I didn’t buy it other people would. Even if no one bought it he would steal it anyway in hopes someone would buy it eventually.

Today my friend was at my house when he came so I offered her to have a look what he had. She immediately asked him where he got this stuff from and he replied “shop”. She didn’t say much after but when I finished buying my items she started shouting about how I’m funding his drugs addiction and I shouldn’t support it because I am now stealing too. I told her to relax it’s fine it’s only a couple of items. She didn’t say much and finished her coffee and left quick.

So am I morally wrong for this? Or would you do the same?

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boredm · 24/06/2024 22:19

Runnerinthenight · 24/06/2024 22:10

And there we have it.

You are the OP? Bit of an F for fail there?

I'm not the Op, I was replying to a reply on my comment that I spend about the same

DAZZlanch · 24/06/2024 22:19

Another one who doesn’t understand how your laundry costs a tenner a week!! I buy Surf, my lb wets the bed every bloody night so I wash everyday plus my daughter likes to wear 14 outfits a day, and I spend max a fiver a week (if that) and I buy my laundry stuff from Morrisons or The Range. It doesn’t seem you’re saving money this way.

Runnerinthenight · 24/06/2024 22:19

Sausage1986 · 24/06/2024 22:16

Because not all is as it seems with in society, some things are widely unbalanced and unfair. He’s just like a modern day Robin Hood.. albeit was a crack habit. I care more that people have to resort to this to meet their needs or are trapped in the relentless cycle of poverty. I’d say that’s a pretty decent way to view it, not a sterile black and white/good and bad scenario

So it's ok if we all go and start just fucking helping ourselves? How do you think that would work?

How does anyone know on this thread whether or not the scumbag is stealing from large supermarkets?

I have no time whatsoever for thieves!

MrsDoloresMcGrath · 24/06/2024 22:18

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Yeh, neither do I.

But I actually have heard of someone buying laundry powder from a neighbour for cheap though.
It was in a really rough area and dealers used to get people (usually innocent kids) to deliver drugs to people’s flats hidden in a bag at the bottom of the box under the powder, saying will you drop this up to number whatever and I’ll give you a quid. One of the people buying from them used to then sell on the washing powder for cheap to his next door neighbour. Whenever anyone mentioned it it was in disbelief that anyone was so desperate for laundry detergent that they buy it in that way, but at least it kind of made sense because it he was selling it extremely cheap.
I wouldn’t buy anything stolen from anyone anyway but I definitely wouldn’t be getting regular deliveries of any sort from someone on drugs. I’d be terrified of my house getting turned over by the police.

PyongyangKipperbang · 24/06/2024 22:18

Divebar2021 · 24/06/2024 22:14

As long as you don’t go running to the police when he ( or someone like him ) breaks in and steals your kids Christmas presents. ( although I expect someone else will be benefit from the windfall so that’s ok)

When the PS2 came out DS wanted one for Xmas (that year no one could get them) and then DH came home and said that his mate could get us one if "You are happy to profit off someone elses misery" (DH's words). He told his mate thanks but no thanks and backed right off this guy. Fairly sure it wasnt him doing the thieving but you never know and as ex said, if he will do it to someone else, he will do it to us. Who was to say we wouldnt pay for a stolen PS2 and then, because they knew where it had gone, it wouldnt get re-stolen from us and there would be nothing we could do as we would have been knowingly handling stolen goods.

Sausage1986 · 24/06/2024 22:16

Runnerinthenight · 24/06/2024 22:09

Most decent people do. How can you actually sit there and condone it?

Because not all is as it seems with in society, some things are widely unbalanced and unfair. He’s just like a modern day Robin Hood.. albeit was a crack habit. I care more that people have to resort to this to meet their needs or are trapped in the relentless cycle of poverty. I’d say that’s a pretty decent way to view it, not a sterile black and white/good and bad scenario

Isthisit22 · 24/06/2024 22:16

How would you feel if you had things stolen and other people were buying them?
At the moment it may be shops he is stealing from (which is bad enough) but if he gets desperate enough he will steal from cars, backyards and maybe even houses.
What you are doing is very wrong

TooLateForRoses · 24/06/2024 22:15

HariusPotter · 24/06/2024 22:14

OP, as a Mum, I worked to pay nursery fees and put clothes on child's table and shoes n clothes on his back. It's not hard.

It is hard. But it's what needs to be done

Divebar2021 · 24/06/2024 22:14

As long as you don’t go running to the police when he ( or someone like him ) breaks in and steals your kids Christmas presents. ( although I expect someone else will be benefit from the windfall so that’s ok)

HariusPotter · 24/06/2024 22:14

OP, as a Mum, I worked to pay nursery fees and put clothes on child's table and shoes n clothes on his back. It's not hard.

Kimmeridge · 24/06/2024 22:13

he sells half price stuff and also takes orders on what you want for half price

Ffs he's not Tesco.com. so you're happy to fund a junkies habit and have him steal to order for you.

You know fine well it's morally wrong. N9 wonder your friend reacted as she did

Nottodaty · 24/06/2024 22:13

I wouldn’t buy it - there are other options.

We had a relative that has been attacked in a supermarket during a theft and one night locking up threatened with violence - there is no support form supermarket bosses - other than you need to help stop shoplifting but don’t get yourself hurt.

You are feeding and supporting a drug addict- that could when your child grows up one night be provided drugs from? Would you be happy knowing your actions kept him in business?

The profits from supermarkets is not nice to read & the way they treat farmers is completely wrong.

I try to think of the bigger picture - it isn’t just a big chain loosing a little bit of profits - it’s the security guard at risk from being attacked, it’s the manager trying to make sure staff are safe in their shop. it’s a drug dealer being kept in business :(

PyongyangKipperbang · 24/06/2024 22:13

I have worked in retail and the shit that the staff get when trying to stop shoplifters is appalling. They are abusive, violent and vile. I have had bottles thrown at my head, milk chucked at me so it burst and went all of me, spat on and called all sorts of names.

If you want to support someone like that, its up to you but, like your friend, I would be reconsidering our friendship on the back of it.

Also you are fucking STUPID to buy baby milk from this lowlife.

Runnerinthenight · 24/06/2024 22:12

MsLuxLisbon · 24/06/2024 22:11

100% I can't stand all the pearl clutching around this. The supermarkets are the real thieves, their prices are absolutely insane and they ought to have been curtailed.

No pearls being clutched. Theft is theft. No excuses.

MsLuxLisbon · 24/06/2024 22:11

Sausage1986 · 24/06/2024 22:07

Who actually cares! Assuming the theft is from large supermarkets, so what. They dictate prices and make huge profits. Maternity pay is shit. No one should have to spend £15 on formula. And, you buying it is not the cause of this persons addiction.

100% I can't stand all the pearl clutching around this. The supermarkets are the real thieves, their prices are absolutely insane and they ought to have been curtailed.

Runnerinthenight · 24/06/2024 22:10

MsLuxLisbon · 24/06/2024 22:09

OP is desperate, she is short of cash. I don't condone theft but it's a bit much to call her a 'bad person'. What is your opinion on the profiteer CEOs of the supermarkets and energy companies? Are they ok by you because their theft is within the law?

She's having you on - she's having us all on. Read my post above!

Runnerinthenight · 24/06/2024 22:10

boredm · 24/06/2024 22:06

I started buying it when I did have more money so I suppose I just haven't switched to cheaper stuff but I really should

And there we have it.

You are the OP? Bit of an F for fail there?

MsLuxLisbon · 24/06/2024 22:09

Runnerinthenight · 24/06/2024 22:05

Someone who buys stolen goods from a junkie is not a good person.

OP is desperate, she is short of cash. I don't condone theft but it's a bit much to call her a 'bad person'. What is your opinion on the profiteer CEOs of the supermarkets and energy companies? Are they ok by you because their theft is within the law?

Runnerinthenight · 24/06/2024 22:09

Sausage1986 · 24/06/2024 22:07

Who actually cares! Assuming the theft is from large supermarkets, so what. They dictate prices and make huge profits. Maternity pay is shit. No one should have to spend £15 on formula. And, you buying it is not the cause of this persons addiction.

Most decent people do. How can you actually sit there and condone it?

Runnerinthenight · 24/06/2024 22:08

Simpsonsfan · 24/06/2024 22:05

At least you're not a judgemental person that jumps to conclusions. I'd rather be on my side thanks.

Well I can look myself in the mirror with a clear conscience. I am way happier on mine.

ttcat37 · 24/06/2024 22:08

YABU, you’re handling stolen goods.

And if you’re spending £10 a week on washing powder then you’re either using way too much or not smart enough to realise the shoplifter is charging you more than it costs in the shop!

AdoraBell · 24/06/2024 22:07

Bloody predicted text🤦‍♀️ an old school friend and food

StormingNorman · 24/06/2024 22:07

Simpsonsfan · 24/06/2024 21:57

No I don't. Especially from big supermarkets, it's not like they're not making millions. Explain to me what your issue is.

It’s illegal
It’s immoral
It puts the prices up for everyone else
Supermarket staff get abused by thieves
The supermarkets don’t owe you anything
It encourages and supports organised crime
Public services lose out on tax from VAT
It wastes police time when they attend a theft.

Sausage1986 · 24/06/2024 22:07

Who actually cares! Assuming the theft is from large supermarkets, so what. They dictate prices and make huge profits. Maternity pay is shit. No one should have to spend £15 on formula. And, you buying it is not the cause of this persons addiction.

PhilosophicalCheeseSandwich · 24/06/2024 22:07

Jesus, how are people spending a tenner a week on powder and softener? I'd have to be taking in washing for the whole street to be hitting those kinds of costs.

Buy something on offer instead of whatever Giro Jim can stash in his joggers and still run.

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