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AIBU to “steal” this?

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AmiABadPersonn · 24/06/2024 20:43

Hello everyone I just want your opinions on this as today I’ve been in a heated argument with my friend as to wether I am unreasonable or not.

I am off work on maternity leave so the funds are tight at minute. There is a man who lives near me I believe he is drug user, he sells half price stuff and also takes orders on what you want for half price. He knocks on my house about 1 or 2 times a week with a bag of half price goods. I always buy washing detergent and softeners from him because you can get a whole weeks laundry of the nice brands for around £10. Money is tight as I have just had a baby and I have 2 other children with my husband also. i also sometimes get baby milk formula from him if I’m running low because it’s cheap.

I feel like this is not wrong because if I didn’t buy it other people would. Even if no one bought it he would steal it anyway in hopes someone would buy it eventually.

Today my friend was at my house when he came so I offered her to have a look what he had. She immediately asked him where he got this stuff from and he replied “shop”. She didn’t say much after but when I finished buying my items she started shouting about how I’m funding his drugs addiction and I shouldn’t support it because I am now stealing too. I told her to relax it’s fine it’s only a couple of items. She didn’t say much and finished her coffee and left quick.

So am I morally wrong for this? Or would you do the same?

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Hotspottt · 25/06/2024 06:35

Laundry products are the most stolen items in our store, huge market for them. In my time I have been threatened with dirty needles, had my windows egged, threatened to be stabbed, spat at etc. My partners been physically assaulted twice punched in the face kicked strangled all by shoplifters.

The CEO doesn’t miss it because they don’t take it out of their pockets, they take it straight from the customer by putting the prices up. Were all paying for shoplifting 🙄

however I wouldn’t judge you for this if I knew you in real life.

WithACatLikeTread · 25/06/2024 06:34

Problem is that buying his stolen goods makes it more expensive for everyone else as they raise the price.

Bluewhiteblue · 25/06/2024 06:31

AmiABadPersonn · 24/06/2024 23:57

I don’t think I said this before but other users are saying if I don’t buy from him he won’t steal, but he will there’s weeks were I don’t buy stuff he still has a bag full the next time. The £10 a week is on laundry pods, softener , stain remover and laundry scent balls from persil or lenor. The balls alone are £8 in Asda. As for the baby milk it’s always sealed so I know he hasn’t contaminated it and I know others locally that buy from him too.

You don’t need sent balls or fabric conditioner. They’re both really bad for children’s skin and I definitley wouldn’t use them on baby clothes.

WhereIsMyLight · 25/06/2024 06:31

Maddy70 · 25/06/2024 03:59

All these perfect people. Yes if I had enough money to do my shopping I wouldn't touch him with a barge poll. But if I was on my arse of course I would.

You’re not on the bones of your arse if you’re buying laundry balls. If you’re on the bones of your arse a pointless scent ball to add to laundry is the first thing to go, even before the likes of cutting Netflix. She can still afford food, she’s just choosing to buy stolen laundry balls to buy more food.

Taking the supermarkets out of the equation, you are feeding his drug habit OP. How are you going to feel when he’s arrested and that you’ve been part of the cycle for him? Or if he ends up dead because of his addiction? Are you going to be happy that you got some cheap (and fucking pointless) laundry balls from him then? Other people might still buy from him but you don’t need to be part of the problem. I’m not sure I could walk past his house in a few years with my children on the way to the park, see an ambulance outside and know it’s because his addiction has got the better of him and I’m partly to blame so my clothes can have an artificial scent to them. If you are struggling to afford baby milk, talk to your HV they can give you support on where to get baby formula without feeding someone’s addiction. Near us there are several baby banks that give out formula for free to people who need it. I know the HV can also give you vouchers.

LostittoBostik · 25/06/2024 06:29

OP, they mostly do this to look inside people's houses while you're choosing and case them out as potential burglary sites

Isittimeformynapyet · 25/06/2024 06:28

Runnerinthenight · 25/06/2024 00:41

Oh do join the rest of us in the real world!

@LlamaTwirl was correct though. That's how capitalism works (for the few!)

TooLateForRoses · 25/06/2024 06:27

The £10 a week is on laundry pods, softener , stain remover and laundry scent balls from persil or lenor.

If you are genuinely struggling for money right now you don't need laundry pods, get powder (or even liquid is cheaper). Fabric softener - fine I'm assuming as you're on mat leave you have a baby but again get the "pure" stuff from lidl/aldi it will last ages. Stain remover- you don't need this EVERY week? And if you were really strapped for cash it wouldn't be a consideration. I know the scent balls you mean and yes it smells nice but actually they are really strong and everyone knows when you've used them. You don't need them for kids and if you're genuinely hard up for money you don't need them at all!!

Custardcream84 · 25/06/2024 06:18

SloaneStreetVandal · 25/06/2024 00:16

I'd think it must be very difficult to steal laundry detergent, baby milk and such like off shelf. He is perhaps being supplied by an insider - by drivers/staff/security.

Desperate times call for desperate measures. It's awful to think of people for whom the only way they'll eat is if they steal. So no judgement from me.

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But it’s not desperate times calling for desperate measures. It’s someone wanting to spend loads of money on branded unnecessary laundry products (laundry balls???) that they could buy for a fraction of the price they currently spend by just buying own brand and ditching the laundry balls and fabric softener (which you don’t need and DEFINITELY shouldn’t be using on a new born baby’s clothes). If she did that she could afford more baby milk and food.

ChristmasFluff · 25/06/2024 06:17

Money would be a lot less tight if you weren't spending £10 a week on laundry.

Otherstories2002 · 25/06/2024 06:17

AmiABadPersonn · 24/06/2024 23:57

I don’t think I said this before but other users are saying if I don’t buy from him he won’t steal, but he will there’s weeks were I don’t buy stuff he still has a bag full the next time. The £10 a week is on laundry pods, softener , stain remover and laundry scent balls from persil or lenor. The balls alone are £8 in Asda. As for the baby milk it’s always sealed so I know he hasn’t contaminated it and I know others locally that buy from him too.

Stop kidding yourself that he would steal whether people purchases it or not. He will be stealing according to demand.

Exisonfire · 25/06/2024 06:06

Of course you shouldn’t buy stolen goods and of course you shouldn’t spend £10 a week on laundry products!

I’ve got a vision of some sort of Lenor and Fabreze trading market where all the “druggies” meet now 😆

GRex · 25/06/2024 06:02

The simplest thing is to consider how you would feel to come home to find your house raided; broken outside door and all your kitchen items taken as well as half your clothes, and a mess left behind for you to to clean up after ages spent with the police reporting the incident and weeks of debate with insurers to prove the loss and get half the value back. You buy some new stuff. Then imagine it happens again 2 weeks later. Shopkeepers are actually humans too, and you can lay bets he's breaking into small shops because the alarm systems are easier. Your payments are causing him to create that distress. Contact your local police by calling 101 and let them deal with him.

Junerainwindcold · 25/06/2024 05:59

I think unless you’ve been in the situation you find yourself in, it’s very easy to judge. I’d do exactly the same as you.

AgentJohnson · 25/06/2024 05:58

Do you really need to ask? Have you not seen the brazen impunity with which some people are walking into shops and walking out with stuff the haven’t paid for? How do you think the shopkeeper feels? But yeah you getting your name brands at half price is soooo worth someone else of being out of pocket.

hopscotcher · 25/06/2024 05:54

I can imagine doing this in your situation, but I don't think it's wise or morally right.

Waterbaby41 · 25/06/2024 05:47

AmiABadPersonn · 25/06/2024 00:02

exactly, I didn’t cause this man’s addiction and there’s plenty of people in the area that buy from him. They give him whole shopping lists I don’t do that. Just stuff that’s actually expensive so I can spend more on food in the week! I believe he steals from b and m and Asda I wouldn’t accept it if it’s from the local corner shop or something because that’s someone’s livelyhood, a big corporation shop like them won’t miss it.

Wow - shown your true colours with this statement. PP was right - you have no moral compass. Why do you think prices are high in the shops - to cover for lowlife thieves and their 'customers' like you.

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ZingyCyanRobin · 25/06/2024 05:22

Honestly, buying stolen goods is unethical. You're supporting illegal activity, which can have broader negative consequences. It's understandable, but there are better ways to save money.

Gilbertwasawuss · 25/06/2024 05:17

I would not give my baby formula that didn't have a clear chain of handling.

You don't know who he has around the formula, how it is stored, contaminants etc

And yes you can check the seal but we all hav eheard the stories of a needle being used to inject things in a sneaky way through seals.

That is my biggest issue here.

malachitegreen · 25/06/2024 04:58

Danfromdownunder · 25/06/2024 04:32

Wont it be great fun when he peers over your shoulder at his next shop at home visit and spies your tv or MacBook and can then have someone take orders for those items, picking up of course when you’re not home. How would you like that? Someone coming and stealing from you? Just like he’s doing to others with your encouragement. I know karma doesn’t work like that but wouldn’t it be fun if it did and next time you came home from the shops your house was emptied? I know you’d understand the bloke up the road is having a hard time financially and can’t afford a full price computer!

I am sure the chances of this happening is very high. That is normal when you build up a relationship with criminal addicts

autienotnaughty · 25/06/2024 04:41

I don't have much money I buy laundry powder from Asda £3.50 and it lasts two weeks for a family of five.

I wouldn't do it, id quietly judge you for doing it. But I wouldn't fall out with you

Nonewclothes2024 · 25/06/2024 04:39

Not sure why you think it's a victimless crime ? Prices go up for everyone because of shoplifters.
@AmiABadPersonn

WaltzingWaters · 25/06/2024 04:33

TheShellBeach · 25/06/2024 02:05

The £10 a week is on laundry pods, softener , stain remover and laundry scent balls from persil or lenor. The balls alone are £8 in Asda

Tesco's stain remover is £2 and a bottle lasts me six weeks.

A large box of washing powder is £4 in Morrisons. That lasts me eight weeks.

Nobody needs laundry scent balls FFS. Or fabric conditioner.

No wonder the planet is doomed.

I spend about 84p a week on laundry products.

I breastfed my babies so never bought formula.

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This. I buy a big box of fairy washing powder for £12 that lasts probably close to a year, and that’s with almost daily washing.

If you’re really strapped for cash you do not need to spend £10 a week on laundry products.

Danfromdownunder · 25/06/2024 04:32

Wont it be great fun when he peers over your shoulder at his next shop at home visit and spies your tv or MacBook and can then have someone take orders for those items, picking up of course when you’re not home. How would you like that? Someone coming and stealing from you? Just like he’s doing to others with your encouragement. I know karma doesn’t work like that but wouldn’t it be fun if it did and next time you came home from the shops your house was emptied? I know you’d understand the bloke up the road is having a hard time financially and can’t afford a full price computer!

malachitegreen · 25/06/2024 04:19

@AmiABadPersonn

You are clearly very bad with money and spending vastly more than you need on unnecessary crap.

You are building up a relationship with an unpredictable criminal when you have young children in the house

You are responsible for putting up supermarket prices for everybody

You are being the worst possible example to your children

You are going to get a criminal record for receiving stolen goods. This will trigger a SS investigation into your parenting and put a serious limit on your future earning potential

Time to grow up and be a proper adult

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