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AIBU to “steal” this?

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AmiABadPersonn · 24/06/2024 20:43

Hello everyone I just want your opinions on this as today I’ve been in a heated argument with my friend as to wether I am unreasonable or not.

I am off work on maternity leave so the funds are tight at minute. There is a man who lives near me I believe he is drug user, he sells half price stuff and also takes orders on what you want for half price. He knocks on my house about 1 or 2 times a week with a bag of half price goods. I always buy washing detergent and softeners from him because you can get a whole weeks laundry of the nice brands for around £10. Money is tight as I have just had a baby and I have 2 other children with my husband also. i also sometimes get baby milk formula from him if I’m running low because it’s cheap.

I feel like this is not wrong because if I didn’t buy it other people would. Even if no one bought it he would steal it anyway in hopes someone would buy it eventually.

Today my friend was at my house when he came so I offered her to have a look what he had. She immediately asked him where he got this stuff from and he replied “shop”. She didn’t say much after but when I finished buying my items she started shouting about how I’m funding his drugs addiction and I shouldn’t support it because I am now stealing too. I told her to relax it’s fine it’s only a couple of items. She didn’t say much and finished her coffee and left quick.

So am I morally wrong for this? Or would you do the same?

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Epidote · 25/06/2024 07:32

OP, everything works well for you until he will steal from you to sell it to others.
I think what you are doing is wrong.

Scruffily · 25/06/2024 07:31

WTF, you don't need all that shit if you're struggling! Just get basic washing powder from Aldi and Lidl like most people on a budget do.

Not just people on a budget. I've never used softener or scent balls, they're completely unnecessary. Why would you want artificial scents on your clothes clashing with your normal perfume, deodorant etc? And why would you want your children smelling of scent?

Carebearsonmybed · 25/06/2024 07:31

What kind of place do you live that drug dealers knock on your door selling stolen goods?!

Some people live a very different life!

I'd be terrified & focus on moving.

WonderingWanda · 25/06/2024 07:29

I would not buy from him to fund his drugs and I wouldn't buy stolen goods. How much detergent are you using each week? You can buy it mega cheap from home bargains.

abouttoturn50 · 25/06/2024 07:26

@StormingNorman @TooLateForRoses my thinking was she could pay full price for the items she's getting from said drug dealer if she used a food bank.

I should add...
5- this post smells like BS

But I do know that it is common in lower income areas for people to buy stolen items from drug users.

TooLateForRoses · 25/06/2024 07:25

user1492757084 · 25/06/2024 02:17

How do you know that he is a druggie or that he steals?

He could be poor or sick.

I would never buy baby formula from anywhere but a reputable shop.

Consider buying laundry detergent from large agricultural shops. They sell good brands in bulk commercial containers at a reduced price. Consider reducing how often you wash too.

I would not support that man but I might offer him a vouchure to buy a local pie or give him some print offs of local jobs like packing supermarket shelves etc.

Doubt he wants a pie and a job stacking shelves would be out the question as they probably already have him marked as a theif

Superhansrantowindsor · 25/06/2024 07:24

Go to Aldi and buy the cheapest detergent. Use the money you saved to buy proper essentials. I feel sorry for the staff who have to deal with this shitty behaviour- especially if it is a small corner shop just trying to make a living. Personally having watched a documentary on the effects of county lines I think anyone who is remotely connected to the trade in illegal drugs is utterly morally repellent. You are giving him money to buy drugs. How many children’s lives are ruined by this trade?

inamarina · 25/06/2024 07:24

whistleblower99 · 24/06/2024 22:19

One post op to 🎣 out all those people who will justify crime because it’s baby formula. Straight out of social media wannabe commentators handbook that.

Let’s just ignore the serious crimes linked to drugs. I can see it worked.

This. Mention baby formula and watch people falling over themselves trying to excuse theft.
Never mind that OP seems to be quite happy to pay for pricey branded laundry products.
As long as it’s not the supermarkets making a profit 🙄

Luxell934 · 25/06/2024 07:21

Nah this can't be real, no one would buy baby milk from a drug dealer surely.

StormingNorman · 25/06/2024 07:19

abouttoturn50 · 25/06/2024 07:12

1- it is illegal
2- it is immoral
3- you are helping find his drug habit
4- GO TO THE FOOD BANK!!

Nobody spending £10 a week on laundry needs the food bank. Leave it for the people who can’t afford food, not for people buying bloody scent pods for their undercrackers.

TooLateForRoses · 25/06/2024 07:19

abouttoturn50 · 25/06/2024 07:12

1- it is illegal
2- it is immoral
3- you are helping find his drug habit
4- GO TO THE FOOD BANK!!

She doesnt need to go to the food bank for smelly laundry balls

FrenchFancie · 25/06/2024 07:19

Well no, I wouldn’t do this. It’s handling stolen goods and, if you get convicted, the penalty is somewhere between a fine and up to 14 years in Jail, depending on severity.

if I was doing such an unwise thing, I wouldn’t be inviting my friends to join in my crime either.

stop buying from this man. Stop committing offenses on a weekly basis.

StormingNorman · 25/06/2024 07:18

AmiABadPersonn · 24/06/2024 23:57

I don’t think I said this before but other users are saying if I don’t buy from him he won’t steal, but he will there’s weeks were I don’t buy stuff he still has a bag full the next time. The £10 a week is on laundry pods, softener , stain remover and laundry scent balls from persil or lenor. The balls alone are £8 in Asda. As for the baby milk it’s always sealed so I know he hasn’t contaminated it and I know others locally that buy from him too.

Is this an attempt to defend yourself? You know this is wrong. Ok ow you know because you put every excuse under the sun in your OP.

nurseryconfusion · 25/06/2024 07:17

You can frame this how you want, but it's really awful.

Buy your laundry bits and baby milk at Aldi (for probably the same cost as from this man).

You are buying known stolen goods, attracting a drug addict to your children's home, and funding this man's continued drug addition. It's absolute madness

abouttoturn50 · 25/06/2024 07:12

1- it is illegal
2- it is immoral
3- you are helping find his drug habit
4- GO TO THE FOOD BANK!!

Variolia · 25/06/2024 07:12

AmiABadPersonn · 25/06/2024 00:02

exactly, I didn’t cause this man’s addiction and there’s plenty of people in the area that buy from him. They give him whole shopping lists I don’t do that. Just stuff that’s actually expensive so I can spend more on food in the week! I believe he steals from b and m and Asda I wouldn’t accept it if it’s from the local corner shop or something because that’s someone’s livelyhood, a big corporation shop like them won’t miss it.

So why not save yourself even more money and steal it directly yourself from the shop?

Tontostitis · 25/06/2024 07:11

theft from a shop....no ones being abused you are deluded.

Mitzicat · 25/06/2024 07:10

I think there is another issue here. The price of goods we buy includes the cost of things stolen. Therefore if nothing was stolen, OK cloud cuckoo land, the prices would be lower for everyone. Perhaps think again about your choices.

Frangipanyoul8r · 25/06/2024 07:05

Why not cut out the middle man and just steal what you want yourself 🤷‍♀️ saves you money and you can choose what you want. You can rationalise anything.

twentysevendresses · 25/06/2024 07:03

Your justifications are bizarre OP...your friend clearly has higher morals than you do 🤷‍♀️

YellowAsteroid · 25/06/2024 07:02

I’m pretty sure buying stolen goods is a crime …

AhBiscuits · 25/06/2024 06:56

You're no better than him just because you are paying someone else to commit the crime for you. I would have some sympathy if you were skint and buying formula out of desperation, but not buying fucking scent balls. If I were your friend I'd be judging hard and stepping back from the friendship.

pepperminticecream · 25/06/2024 06:56

Wexone · 25/06/2024 00:04

You do not need scent balls or softener they are not a necessasity!!! no need ro steal them !!!!!. stain remover aldi do a big version of vanish you need one scoop it should last you ages.
the mind boggles

agreed. There is also a ton of chemicals from those products that I would not have my children around, let alone, allow them to wear and sleep in products covered in chemical scents. Go by some basic laundry soap and stain remover (or just use dish soap or vinegar and baking soda for stain remover). And stop stealing and supporting crime.

Harrysmummy246 · 25/06/2024 06:55

AmiABadPersonn · 25/06/2024 01:30

I’m so sorry for what has happened but this is completely different. What your sibling faced is an aggravated burglary and Abh/gbh, this is theft from a shop no one is being beaten up or abused.

Stop trying to justify it. You know it's stolen goods. Therefore this in itself is a a crime.

£10 a week on laundry stuff? Bonkers.
Scent things are totally unnecessary. We've never used softener. We use powder as you can tweak the dose. Huge box lasts months.

Budget. Look at what's really necessary. Cut your cloth accordingly. Ask for help through legal means if you have to

WithACatLikeTread · 25/06/2024 06:46

Just because he didn't beat anyone up whilst stealing from the shop doesn't mean the shop workers didn't find it a horrible experience. Jeeze just ask your friends for money instead to buy those things.