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AIBU to “steal” this?

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AmiABadPersonn · 24/06/2024 20:43

Hello everyone I just want your opinions on this as today I’ve been in a heated argument with my friend as to wether I am unreasonable or not.

I am off work on maternity leave so the funds are tight at minute. There is a man who lives near me I believe he is drug user, he sells half price stuff and also takes orders on what you want for half price. He knocks on my house about 1 or 2 times a week with a bag of half price goods. I always buy washing detergent and softeners from him because you can get a whole weeks laundry of the nice brands for around £10. Money is tight as I have just had a baby and I have 2 other children with my husband also. i also sometimes get baby milk formula from him if I’m running low because it’s cheap.

I feel like this is not wrong because if I didn’t buy it other people would. Even if no one bought it he would steal it anyway in hopes someone would buy it eventually.

Today my friend was at my house when he came so I offered her to have a look what he had. She immediately asked him where he got this stuff from and he replied “shop”. She didn’t say much after but when I finished buying my items she started shouting about how I’m funding his drugs addiction and I shouldn’t support it because I am now stealing too. I told her to relax it’s fine it’s only a couple of items. She didn’t say much and finished her coffee and left quick.

So am I morally wrong for this? Or would you do the same?

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godmum56 · 25/06/2024 08:38

AmiABadPersonn · 25/06/2024 00:02

exactly, I didn’t cause this man’s addiction and there’s plenty of people in the area that buy from him. They give him whole shopping lists I don’t do that. Just stuff that’s actually expensive so I can spend more on food in the week! I believe he steals from b and m and Asda I wouldn’t accept it if it’s from the local corner shop or something because that’s someone’s livelyhood, a big corporation shop like them won’t miss it.

just stop excusing yourself.

Whiskeywithoutice · 25/06/2024 08:37

So you're willing to buy stuff you know to be stolen by a drug addict so you can have laundry that smells "nice". And you're prepared to buy baby formula form him too because you know of course it is going to be the real thing rather than some adulterated knock off. Your children are going to grow up seeing you do this sort of thing and you'll be whining when they start shoplifting etc as teenagers. Just imagine explaining what you are doing to your children:

"Well there is a very sick man. He steals things to buy drugs to make him feel better but they are actually killing him. I like our laundry to smell nice so I buy stuff from him that he stole because it's much cheaper because he stole it."

At times my family was desperately poor. We didn't steal food let alone buy stolen stuff to make our laundry smell good. We worked our way out of poverty without giving up our moral code.

JoSturgis · 25/06/2024 08:35

Actually trying to conceive right now. Would you be inclined to recommend wetherspoons or something more like Starbucks?

armyofants · 25/06/2024 08:34

dottiedodah · 25/06/2024 08:32

WTF, Buying baby milk from a Drug dealer! Come on OP ,you know this is all kinds of wrong.Why do you spend £10.00 a week on laundry products? Unreal! I probably dont spend that in a month!

I think unreal is the word here.

Respectisnotoptional · 25/06/2024 08:33

I can’t believe that anyone is saying it’s okay to steal from anyone, it’s absolutely, and utterly low life and disgusting, how can you live like that buying stolen goods.
What sort of an example is that to your children that it’s okay to steal.
It’s partly because of people like you that supermarket prices are so high, they lose money every time someone steals something.
Raise your morals and your standards … you’re a perfect example of everything the country doesn’t need, you are as much a thief as he is.

HMW1906 · 25/06/2024 08:32

You’re knowingly handling stolen goods…that is illegal, never mind morally wrong.

Also £10 for a weeks worth of laundry tablets/powder??? He’s having your pants down! I pay £12 for 56 fairy laundry pods which last us well over a month if not 2 months.

dottiedodah · 25/06/2024 08:32

WTF, Buying baby milk from a Drug dealer! Come on OP ,you know this is all kinds of wrong.Why do you spend £10.00 a week on laundry products? Unreal! I probably dont spend that in a month!

LIZS · 25/06/2024 08:29

Is it even genuine? At best it might be damaged packaging or shoplifted, at worst not what you think or contaminated and dangerous. And yes he will be using income to fund his habits or those of someone else. Own brand washing powder is less than £5 a box , is it really much of a saving?

Motomum23 · 25/06/2024 08:27

Stolen possibly contaminated baby milk.... give your head a wobble op!

StormingNorman · 25/06/2024 08:24

abouttoturn50 · 25/06/2024 07:26

@StormingNorman @TooLateForRoses my thinking was she could pay full price for the items she's getting from said drug dealer if she used a food bank.

I should add...
5- this post smells like BS

But I do know that it is common in lower income areas for people to buy stolen items from drug users.

Food banks aren’t a means of subsiding spend you can’t afford in other areas. Food banks are for people who cannot afford to eat. Using them to subsidise expensive laundry brands is stealing from people who would otherwise have to skip meals. That’s even worse than stealing from the supermarket.

Darhon · 25/06/2024 08:24

I have family in retail. It’s has become completely awful to work in due to shoplifting. Both large scale and individuals doing this. I’m now extremely careful where I buy from if I see things on Facebook fur example. There’s a huge cost to this and it’s at such a level that it is pushing costs up.

Limer · 25/06/2024 08:23

So am I morally wrong for this?. Yes, for all the reasons outlined by previous posters.

It sounds like you've lost a good friend too.

And think about what example you're setting to your children. They'll be telling their mates that their mum saves loads by buying from Dodgy Dave at the door.

armyofants · 25/06/2024 08:21

Scruffily · 25/06/2024 08:19

How can using laundry scent balls be a need?

I think this is a wind up, and that’s why the items formula (a necessity) and scent balls (a luxury) was chosen.

And also using the word stealing in the head line to draw attention to the post.

MamaGarl85 · 25/06/2024 08:20

I think you know darn well it isn't right by your choice of wording in the title 🙄

Scruffily · 25/06/2024 08:19

Viviennemary · 25/06/2024 08:17

It's wrong but needs must sometime. I agree though with the poster who said don't buy baby milk from him. Your friend isn't very nice.

How can using laundry scent balls be a need?

Viviennemary · 25/06/2024 08:17

Itiswhysofew · 24/06/2024 20:51

He's wrong for stealing and I think you're wrong for buying, but I wouldn't have reacted as your friend did. I'd be more concerned that you're struggling.

It's wrong but needs must sometime. I agree though with the poster who said don't buy baby milk from him. Your friend isn't very nice.

NamelessNancy · 25/06/2024 08:16

Someone should stage an intervention. The OP's lenor habit is spiralling out of control and affecting her ability to feed her children.

NashvilleQueen · 25/06/2024 08:10

Stop for a moment and just think about what you're facilitating here. I accept times might be hard (though frankly your laundry costs are baffling) but even so.

He's an addict and therefore likely to be vulnerable and desperate.

He is stealing high value items to fund his addiction.

Stealing things for people like you who will buy them might result in him going to prison or overdosing. Do you want to be connected to that just so you can use branded laundry pods at supermarket brand prices?

Shops increase prices to compensate for their losses so you're indirectly contributing to that as well.

And you've said yourself that sometimes he hasn't sold stuff so it's not a case of others will buy it if you don't.

On every possible level what you're doing is a terrible idea.

Screamingabdabz · 25/06/2024 08:09

I voted YABU because you don’t need fabric conditioner or those revolting scent things. So you’re aiding and abetting crime for no reason whatsoever.

armyofants · 25/06/2024 08:06

If you don’t mind about being a mum with a criminal record, then just go for it! 👍🏼

Walkaround · 25/06/2024 08:06

Also, nobody needs softener or scent balls for their laundry.

Walkaround · 25/06/2024 08:05

You’re committing a crime - handling stolen goods. Of course you are morally reprehensible.

Scruffily · 25/06/2024 08:04

SloaneStreetVandal · 25/06/2024 00:26

I get the impression it means she's not left short for buying food.

And yes I imagine for the chap in question it IS to fund an addiction.

She could achieve this much more easily just by stopping using utterly pointless stuff like laundry scent balls. She could also save herself from the risk of a criminal conviction into the bargain.

whoscoatsthatjacket2012 · 25/06/2024 08:03

Ffs. I wouldn't come anywhere near your house if you were my friend.
Sort your head out. You can get arrested for receiving and handling stolen goods.
And to echo pp who the hell spends £10 a week on washing stuff. That's insane

armyofants · 25/06/2024 08:03

At least you know that you can’t afford to have another child for a long time.