Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To be annoyed DH’s niece is now coming on holiday with us

288 replies

Mossyroller · 24/06/2024 19:32

MIL books two weeks at the same house on the same dates each year; her and FIL holidayed there every year till he died 4 years ago. Since then we have holidayed with her for one of the weeks as she doesn’t want to go on her own for the whole time.
We pay for our own flights and with 4 of us that’s not cheap, and we take her out/ generally organise stuff like trips/meals. (Things she wouldn’t do on her own). Flights were booked 9 months ago.

Niece (24) has just split from her boyfriend and DH tells me today that MIL has booked and paid for her flights to join us, and that she is staying for the 2 weeks.

Niece has only met DD3 once this last Christmas, and for some reason kept making DD cry (I think it was because she didn’t know her and was quite awkward with her?). She ignored or seemed frustrated with the children, made zero effort, didn’t contribute in anyway and clearly had zero interest in our family (which I do get a bit as she is a young adult now). To be honest I’d tried so hard over the years to keep in contact with her, have sent birthday cards/gifts, all to no acknowledgement, that after Xmas day I stopped and suggested DH maintained an effort which he hasn’t.

The holiday house has 3 bedrooms so apparently now DS14, is going to share a room with grandma (82), so Niece can have her own room. I think that’s a bit off?

It changes the dynamic as Niece doesn’t want to do the stuff we normally do. And MIL has always made it clear niece is the ‘golden’ grandchild.

I’m a bit miffed and DH doesn’t see it at all, he says it’ll just be what it is, that I’m being completely unreasonable, am I though?

OP posts:
ToxicChristmas · 24/06/2024 21:07

Also, absolutely no chance on earth I'd be fully funding a 24 year old on trips out and for meals when she can't even send you a bloody Christmas card 😂. What a mooch.

MissBPotter · 24/06/2024 21:06

Yes I wouldn’t be attending anymore! Can you cancel flights? How can they think a 14 year old boy can share with granny?! Sounds like it will be crap now.

Bearybasket · 24/06/2024 21:05

I think if niece is going to be there for the full two weeks and you’re only there for one then it makes much more sense for her to have the room. Although your ds would be better sleeping in the lounge not with gran.
And if it’s mil that organises the accommodation and invited everyone then niece has just as much right to be there and spend time with her grandma as your kids do

Genevieva · 24/06/2024 21:05

Niece needs to share with grandma. They are both women.

LlamaTwirl · 24/06/2024 21:04

CelesteCunningham · 24/06/2024 19:34

YANBU about DS losing his room. Otherwise YABU.

This

Roundroundthegarden · 24/06/2024 21:04

Surely this type of arrangement should end at some point. No holiday is worth this amount of frustration and obligation? I would rather stay at home than sit around people who annoy me.

mrsm43s · 24/06/2024 21:04

Given you're not paying for the accommodation, you don't really get a say in who gets which rooms.

I think that if your DS is happy to share with GM, then there's not a problem, but it would be reasonable for him not to want to, in which case he could have the sofa, or even pitch a tent in the garden (which most boys his age would LOVE!). Or you can pay for your own accommodation this year, having benefitted from the free accommodation for several years.

He, the grandchild who has already been treated to several free accommodation holidays, isn't in some way more entitled to a bedroom that the other grandchild being treated by GM to free accommodation for the first time.

The fact you don't appear to like your nice is neither here nor there. GM is paying for the accommodation and calls the shots.

You don't need to pay for your neice to do anything, obviously.

Goldbar · 24/06/2024 21:03

I agree with sending your DH and DS.

At a push, you could send your DH with both kids and they could all squash in together.

Maybe grandma could share with the 3yo?

GrumpyPanda · 24/06/2024 21:01

To PP who said we’d be expected to pay for niece to join in the trips/meals you are absolutely correct!!

Well you can turn that around - just ask the niece directly if as a fellow guest she'd like to split hosting grandma with you. That should draw a nice clear line in the sand.

DramaLlamaBangBang · 24/06/2024 21:01

I agree with @ToxicChristmas. Send DH and DS. They can have a week away and you can take your DD on little trips. If she's only 3, and the niece gets irritated by her, she and you won't have a good time anyway.

Brefugee · 24/06/2024 21:01

RedHelenB · 24/06/2024 20:32

Can't he sleep in the lounge?

why? niece is a late addition and she can sleep in the lounge! it's a shit idea because he either can't go to bed until everyone is ready, or everyone has to vacate the lounge so he can sleep. And then he is on holiday and probably can't sleep in because everyone gets up and goes in the lounge. And then he has nowhere to withdraw and be alone (for whatever reason he wants)

tbh, OP in your shoes i'd say I'm not going, then your DH can share the room with both his offspring, and you can please yourself for a week.

UnpackingBooksFromBoxes · 24/06/2024 21:00

I find it weird that you refer to her as DHs niece. I consider all my children’s cousins as my nieces and nephews regardless of their parents.

oakleaffy · 24/06/2024 20:59

AtrociousCircumstance · 24/06/2024 19:37

Sounds utterly shit. Some holiday.

The niece should share with the grandma, if anyone has to share.

Absolutely this.
It’s completely unreasonable to expect an old lady to be sharing with a teenaged boy - Unfair on both of them.
The niece should bunk up with Granny.

Blendeddogs · 24/06/2024 20:59

Aquamarine1029 · 24/06/2024 19:48

For fuck's sake, a 14 year old boy should not be forced to share a room with his grandmother. That is completely inappropriate and unreasonable. What on earth does is your husband thinking?

This email your mil you entire original post - grandmother can not change the holiday - your holiday and say it is done and dusted

Mirabai · 24/06/2024 20:58

If DS really loves going I’d go for his sake. Like hell is MIL ever going to share with a teenage boy.

wordler · 24/06/2024 20:58

Mossyroller · 24/06/2024 20:50

We are going for the second week.
each bedroom has a bed that can be two singles or a double, they each have an ensuite too. It’s a diner/lounge, really big with patio doors onto the garden which is right on the beach so we tend to sit there playing games of an evening (which niece will hate)!

By second week niece will fully have settled into one of the bedrooms - will be hard to move her I think.

What about a small tent in the corner of the living room for DS - would be cosy and give him a little privacy.

Binman · 24/06/2024 20:57

Yes what @ToxicChristmas said especially if he has gone without you before. I missed that when I crossed posts.

ToxicChristmas · 24/06/2024 20:55

I'd be tempted to bow out and send DS and DH (who can then share). Have a peaceful week at home. If you are going to feel that uncomfortable with niece then it won't be any kind of holiday for you anyway. You'll end up resentful and pissed off.

Binman · 24/06/2024 20:50

Will you lose your flight money if you don’t go? Can you transfer flights and afford accommodation elsewhere?

Most importantly will your DS be disappointed if he doesn’t go, he said he loves it, even if he does share a room with grandma. Whilst I totally agree that the niece should share with DGM my 13 year old DGS would share a room with me if it was the difference between doing something he loved or not going.

Though I must be the only person on here who thinks that would be workable.

Make it clear that you won’t subsidise your niece, even if it means you don’t take grandma out but also if your DS is happy to share don’t use him as ammunition when your problem is actually with the niece, who may be very upset about her break up.

Mossyroller · 24/06/2024 20:50

wordler · 24/06/2024 20:41

Are you going for the first week or the second?

If the second, niece will be firmly ensconced in one of the bedrooms anyway.

Is there an option of creating a little sleeping area in the lounge for DS?

Get DH to tell MIL that DS can’t share with Grandma - he’ll have to sleep in lounge, which also means lounge is then unusable from his bedtime onwards. Perhaps niece could sleep in lounge for one week and then in second week she gets her pick of the bedrooms.

Make sure niece is on washing up rota!

We are going for the second week.
each bedroom has a bed that can be two singles or a double, they each have an ensuite too. It’s a diner/lounge, really big with patio doors onto the garden which is right on the beach so we tend to sit there playing games of an evening (which niece will hate)!

OP posts:
Mydahliasareshit · 24/06/2024 20:47

I'm guessing this is somewhere quite posh like Tresco or Sark.

It's testament to your lad that he's willing to keep calm right now for granny's happiness.

Just don't expect him to necessarily sign up for future family holidays if he knows he's always going to be the piece moved at whim. He may even get angry during or afterwards, and quite honestly who could possibly blame him.

Youcantellalotofthingsabouttheflowers · 24/06/2024 20:47

Seeing as you are not paying for accommodation and never have, I don’t think you are in any position to object other than your son sharing with his grandmother, which is a huge no no.

Mossyroller · 24/06/2024 20:45

SearchBedSocksNearMe · 24/06/2024 20:44

To be honest I’d tried so hard over the years to keep in contact with her, have sent birthday cards/gifts, all to no acknowledgement, that after Xmas day I stopped and suggested DH maintained an effort which he hasn’t. why have you done that? Why do women do that?! Can you imagine any man trying so hard to maintain relations with his wife's niece or nephew? Women really are their own worst enemy.

Exactly! I feel like such a twat tbh!! I put myself out all the time for his family, and I am so done with it.

OP posts:
Mossyroller · 24/06/2024 20:44

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 24/06/2024 20:21

@Mossyroller so for the last 4 years you and your hubby have been using your family holiday time to spend it with her to stop her feeling lonely??? what have the parents of the neice been doing during all those years???

They (BIL & SIL) went last year with DH and DD who was just 2 then. Me and DS stayed home because he had just changed schools (and to be honest it was a brilliant excuse to have a week on my own). DH went because he always goes for his mum, he can’t seem to contemplate not going!

Im glad everyone thinks it’s not right for DS and grandma to share! DH has made me feel I’m being a trouble maker and I’m really not.

OP posts:
SearchBedSocksNearMe · 24/06/2024 20:44

To be honest I’d tried so hard over the years to keep in contact with her, have sent birthday cards/gifts, all to no acknowledgement, that after Xmas day I stopped and suggested DH maintained an effort which he hasn’t. why have you done that? Why do women do that?! Can you imagine any man trying so hard to maintain relations with his wife's niece or nephew? Women really are their own worst enemy.