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To be annoyed DH’s niece is now coming on holiday with us

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Mossyroller · 24/06/2024 19:32

MIL books two weeks at the same house on the same dates each year; her and FIL holidayed there every year till he died 4 years ago. Since then we have holidayed with her for one of the weeks as she doesn’t want to go on her own for the whole time.
We pay for our own flights and with 4 of us that’s not cheap, and we take her out/ generally organise stuff like trips/meals. (Things she wouldn’t do on her own). Flights were booked 9 months ago.

Niece (24) has just split from her boyfriend and DH tells me today that MIL has booked and paid for her flights to join us, and that she is staying for the 2 weeks.

Niece has only met DD3 once this last Christmas, and for some reason kept making DD cry (I think it was because she didn’t know her and was quite awkward with her?). She ignored or seemed frustrated with the children, made zero effort, didn’t contribute in anyway and clearly had zero interest in our family (which I do get a bit as she is a young adult now). To be honest I’d tried so hard over the years to keep in contact with her, have sent birthday cards/gifts, all to no acknowledgement, that after Xmas day I stopped and suggested DH maintained an effort which he hasn’t.

The holiday house has 3 bedrooms so apparently now DS14, is going to share a room with grandma (82), so Niece can have her own room. I think that’s a bit off?

It changes the dynamic as Niece doesn’t want to do the stuff we normally do. And MIL has always made it clear niece is the ‘golden’ grandchild.

I’m a bit miffed and DH doesn’t see it at all, he says it’ll just be what it is, that I’m being completely unreasonable, am I though?

OP posts:
laraitopbanana · 25/06/2024 20:06

saraclara · 25/06/2024 18:46

Grandma IS paying. She's paying for the whole bloody house!

Her grandaughter's relationship has ended. Presumably she's pretty upset. So Grandma did a nice thing and invited her too, and paid her airfare. I still can't for the life of me see what's wrong with that. She has her other grandchildren staying, what's one more? And one who she perceives needs a treat.

As for whether niece is golden child, who knows? It's impossible to compare the relationship that a GM has with a 25 year old DGD, with that with a 14 year old DGS or a 3 year old DGD. And niece and a 3 year old? I wouldn't have engaged that much at 25 either.

Edited

I meant to the treats, outings and all. They are paying flights and all the rest.

she is paying for the house and it looks like she is going to have more space than she thought.

there is nothing wrong in inviting her niece but if she already asked someone else, it should have been discussed. If prearrangements are moved, then no adults should be told any decision to the risk of making feel ackward and not coming. Which is now happening. I can’t blame them either 🤷🏼‍♀️

RisingSunn · 25/06/2024 20:05

ToxicChristmas · 24/06/2024 20:55

I'd be tempted to bow out and send DS and DH (who can then share). Have a peaceful week at home. If you are going to feel that uncomfortable with niece then it won't be any kind of holiday for you anyway. You'll end up resentful and pissed off.

I think this is reasonable:

MsCactus · 25/06/2024 20:01

bluebeck · 24/06/2024 19:35

Tell them DS can’t share with MIL so you won’t be going.

DS is a boy. DN is a girl. Surely your family will acknowledge the awkwardness of having a teenage boy in with female family members?

DN should definitely share - there's a privacy element otherwise. DS isn't a small child at 14 anymore, he's a teen

Cm19841 · 25/06/2024 19:45

Why can't niece share with grandma? Niece pays for own food and spending (or grandma??) Absolute minimum requirement if she invited someone else.

This has to be done. If you don't have a good time with this arrangement then you do not go again.

BruFord · 25/06/2024 19:44

Totally agree about niece’s meals etc, at 24 she is an adult, who should be contributing her share.

@MrsWhites Cripes, thanks for the reminder that the niece is 24, I’d overlooked that. In that case, the OP’s immediate family definitely shouldn’t contribute towards her holiday outings, etc., she’s a full-blown adult, ffs. 24-year-olds are financially independent, aren’t they? I certainly was.

Beautiful3 · 25/06/2024 19:40

You can't put a teenage boy with grandma. I'd cancel and say it was due to insufficient room.

hollyblueivy · 25/06/2024 19:34

Gcsunnyside23 · 25/06/2024 19:31

It's so inappropriate for you mil to expect your son to share with her and just because he's trying to be nice you know deep down that he won't be comfortable. Tell her to ask her niece of she would have shared a room with her grandad at 14? I'd be inclined to put him in the living room, suck it up this year and refuse to book next year to go

Fair point.

I hope your son doesn't have to share. It's not fair.

Gcsunnyside23 · 25/06/2024 19:31

It's so inappropriate for you mil to expect your son to share with her and just because he's trying to be nice you know deep down that he won't be comfortable. Tell her to ask her niece of she would have shared a room with her grandad at 14? I'd be inclined to put him in the living room, suck it up this year and refuse to book next year to go

MrsWhites · 25/06/2024 19:30

OliveWah · 24/06/2024 21:29

I think I'd send a message along the following lines:

"Hi MIL, I've just heard that DN will be joining our family holiday - how lovely, it will be great to spend some time with her! (Even if it won't, best to start off friendly!)

We just wanted to confirm that the bedroom arrangements won't be changing, as I'm sure you'd agree it would be much more suitable for DN to share with you than for teenage DS. If DN does want to take a different room for the week before we arrive, if she could ensure she's all moved out before we arrive so DS can get settled, it would be appreciated.

The four of us have been really looking forward to this break, and we've carefully budgeted to ensure we can afford a few treats while we're away, but just wanted to be clear that although we're really pleased DN will be joining us, we aren't in a position to subsidise her trip/pay for her meals/drinks etc. We just thought it best to be clear upfront to avoid any confusion."

It's probably a bit OTT, but I couldn't resist having a bash - it's so much easier when it isn't your own MIL though, isn't it?! Not sure I'd have the guts to send it to my own!

You can’t demand that the bedroom arrangements won’t be changing when you haven’t paid for the accommodation. Unfortunately since MIL has paid for the accommodation it’s ultimately up to her who sleeps where - of course you don’t have to go but I don’t see that you can dictate who sleeps in each room.

Totally agree about niece’s meals etc, at 24 she is an adult, who should be contributing her share.

JLou08 · 25/06/2024 19:26

I agree with your DH. If DS and MIL are both comfortable sharing I don't see the issue. If one was uncomfortable different story but they're not. I also don't think DS sleeping on the couch would be an issue. You are getting the accommodation for free so you shouldn't be expecting everything your way. If you're not happy sort your own accommodation.
Sounds like MIL sees her GD is having a difficult time and wants to treat her. It would be very unreasonable for you to get in the way of that.

Starrynights9 · 25/06/2024 19:24

On reflection I wouldn't have wanted to share a bedroom with my grandfather when I was 14/15. I'd have found it extremely embarrassing despite being very close.

Greenkindness · 25/06/2024 19:24

I have a 14 yr old and would not expect him
to share with Gran. I think a tent in the garden might be the best bet.

Could DH speak to his brother regarding making sure niece has spending money for meals out etc so you’re not subsidising her so much? I know she’s an adult, but might reduce arguments on holiday.

EverythingYouDoIsaBalloon · 25/06/2024 19:23

Iwasafool · 25/06/2024 18:58

No one is explaining what is so outrageous about the 14 year old sharing with grandma when they are both happy with the situation.

Spontaneous erections. HTH.

BruFord · 25/06/2024 19:21

ToxicChristmas · 24/06/2024 20:55

I'd be tempted to bow out and send DS and DH (who can then share). Have a peaceful week at home. If you are going to feel that uncomfortable with niece then it won't be any kind of holiday for you anyway. You'll end up resentful and pissed off.

@ToxicChristmas has a great suggestion, could you get a refund on your ticket? Your family should definitely not subsidize your niece on this holiday, your MIL invited her so she can pay and arrange for the niece’s parents to reimburse her if necessary.

saraclara · 25/06/2024 19:18

Beautifulbythebay · 25/06/2024 19:15

Nobody heard of Morning Wood?

Presumably you don't let your husband share a hotel family room with your kids then.

Why on earth would grandma be aware if it happened to DGS? They're not sharing a bed.

Zanatdy · 25/06/2024 19:17

I don’t think your DS should share a room with grandma, that should be the niece. That sad I don’t agree all these comments that it can’t happen. My son lives with his grandma, he’s 30 and shares a room on her on holidays. None are bothered and can afford their own rooms but choose to share. I see zero issue with it, they’ve always been close. DS2 who is 19 and not as close to his Nanna id say maybe they shouldn’t but it’s nothing inappropriate. But should be the niece sharing given she’s the extra body and she’s the same gender

Starrynights9 · 25/06/2024 19:16

Iwasafool · 25/06/2024 19:11

What have the "throws of puberty" have to do with sleeping? I mean would the world come to an end if they both nodded off in the garden/car/lounge?

Teenage boys are entitled to privacy in their bedrooms. If you don't agree with that feel free.

Beautifulbythebay · 25/06/2024 19:15

Nobody heard of Morning Wood?

Iwasafool · 25/06/2024 19:11

Starrynights9 · 25/06/2024 19:07

A 14 year old boy in the throws of puberty is entitled to privacy in his bedroom. I understand why the idea of sharing a bedroom with his grandmother makes the OP feel uncomfortable.

What have the "throws of puberty" have to do with sleeping? I mean would the world come to an end if they both nodded off in the garden/car/lounge?

Starrynights9 · 25/06/2024 19:07

Iwasafool · 25/06/2024 18:58

No one is explaining what is so outrageous about the 14 year old sharing with grandma when they are both happy with the situation.

A 14 year old boy in the throws of puberty is entitled to privacy in his bedroom. I understand why the idea of sharing a bedroom with his grandmother makes the OP feel uncomfortable.

Iwasafool · 25/06/2024 18:58

No one is explaining what is so outrageous about the 14 year old sharing with grandma when they are both happy with the situation.

Despair1 · 25/06/2024 18:57

I don't think it's unreasonable that MIL has booked niece to come but I can understand why you would have liked to be informed prior to booking.
And niece definitely has to share bedroom with MIL. Niece may be friendly and helpful now ( teenagerhood is difficult). I think you need to make an effort; if the situation is strained, your niece and MIL can have separate days out.

Starrynights9 · 25/06/2024 18:51

RiverF · 24/06/2024 19:43

I don't think niece coming is unreasonable, but niece needs to share with Grandma

This. It's blatantly wrong to expect a 14 year old boy to share a room with his grandmother unless in an emergency.

saraclara · 25/06/2024 18:46

laraitopbanana · 25/06/2024 18:37

That,

your 14years old son with grandma? When you invite her around and come to her request?? Hard no.

I would cancel, grandma isn’t paying and invited niece to the treat (sigh). That is just not on.

Grandma IS paying. She's paying for the whole bloody house!

Her grandaughter's relationship has ended. Presumably she's pretty upset. So Grandma did a nice thing and invited her too, and paid her airfare. I still can't for the life of me see what's wrong with that. She has her other grandchildren staying, what's one more? And one who she perceives needs a treat.

As for whether niece is golden child, who knows? It's impossible to compare the relationship that a GM has with a 25 year old DGD, with that with a 14 year old DGS or a 3 year old DGD. And niece and a 3 year old? I wouldn't have engaged that much at 25 either.

leli · 25/06/2024 18:42

bluebeck · 24/06/2024 19:35

Tell them DS can’t share with MIL so you won’t be going.

I agree with this. Why can't DN share with her granny?