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9 year old left in park for 10 minutes

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Italianasoitis · 24/06/2024 18:22

My 9 year old son went to his friend's house after school. The dad collected them both from school and took them to the park. When my son got home, he said that the dad went back home to get something and left both my son and his friend (both 9) alone for 10 minutes. In this time my son fell over and grazed his knee and said an old lady came over to him to see if he was OK. Son wasn't frightened, hurt or upset amd while he is quote mature for his age, I have never left him alone for any amount of time. I'm annoyed and am not sure if I'm being unreasonable. I feel like I can't trust the parents again. Am I mad? I can be a bit over protective but aibu in thinking you don't leave 9 year olds alone in the park? Or maybe it's OK. I don't know. What do you all think?

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Whenwillitgetwarm · 26/06/2024 06:31

Schoolhelp23 · 26/06/2024 00:00

Just out of interest - does anyone who has said their 9yo (or younger) goes to the park, walks to school etc without supervision, live in Central London?

Not an exact match but at 10, DC was going to the park around the corner with friend, and walking to school by themselves in Outer London.

It’s a busy area with lots of people and CCTV and Ring Door bells. I feel more comfortable with DC walking alone here than I would a quiet rural area, with few people or pavements. Believe it or not, London childhoods are pretty safe. Yes there is violent crime but it’s very rare for strangers to get caught up in it.

‘According the Crime Survey for England and Wales, someone is actually less likely to be a victim of crime in London than they are across the country as a whole. In the capital, 14.9% of people experienced a crime either to their person or their household in the year ending September 2023, compared with 15.7% nationally. But what about different types of crime?’

https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/feb/26/fact-check-has-sadiq-khan-really-overseen-a-surge-in-london

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Isitautumnyet23 · 26/06/2024 05:45

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Please see recent thread about a 5 year old in a park alone. Not a single person agreed with it and everyone said they would call the police/social services/inform the school.

Raise kids you actually love and care about.

Oblomov24 · 26/06/2024 05:25

I used to take better care of any play-date kid, more than I did my own! Wink so never would have left them. But seriously ease up please.

Italianasoitis · 26/06/2024 05:13

I don't know anyone where I live who sends their child to the park alone and I never see children around my son's age without parents (i know.most people who frequent our local park). Certainly nobody walks home alone from our primary school.

Its surprising to see the comments as I don't relate to any of it. I myself used to walk places by myself from a young age, but culturally it feels very far away from where I am now. Its just not the norm in my area anyway. In any case, getting to school alone would involve an hour long walk across city centre traffic and an under ground passageway, or getting two buses and an underground train. I definitely think he is too young for that.

We have a park in our area and it's quite spacious And safe. Normally I leave my son in the ball games area to play football, and i stay over on the other side with my toddler on the baby swings. I often meet my friends there and my 9 year old comes over to find me for water and food and goes back again.

I don't see him the whole time he is there but he knows where I am and knows everyone else at the park too. There's a cafe around the corner that I could have gone to for a coffee as he knows how to get to it should he need to, and the park is across the road from my house. That's how I had envisioned starting to 'cut the umbilical cord'.

I would have liked to have had more input into it and have done it incrementally. I do find that MN users are quite quick to throw out the baby with the bathwater and remove all context the situation. There is an assumption that I'm a very over protective mother scared to cut the apron strings but I think it's better to do things slowly , changing one or two details as you go, and I've been guaging it by how everyone else has been doing it. I would have liked to have had the option to make that decision for him.

Anyway, I do take on board what people have said and I will be extending opportunities for our son to have more independence.

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ThatsMeYoureTalkingAbout · 26/06/2024 05:09

Comedycook · 24/06/2024 18:25

It's fine to do this with your own child imo although I wouldn't. You should not do this with someone else's without checking it's ok with their parents.

This

Schoolhelp23 · 26/06/2024 00:00

Just out of interest - does anyone who has said their 9yo (or younger) goes to the park, walks to school etc without supervision, live in Central London?

SeulementUneFois · 25/06/2024 23:14

Bloody hell.
I was walking to school by myself at 7 years of age. (My dad walked with me on the first day.)

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Isitautumnyet23 · 25/06/2024 21:50

Delatron · 25/06/2024 21:38

The world is no less safe now (in terms of abduction) it’s our perception. As another poster said kids are overprotected in the real world and underprotected online.

Roads are busier so more dangerous- but that means they need to practice crossing roads!

People claiming a 9 year old in a park with his friend, in the daylight, left for 10 minutes is going to get kidnapped….what on earth?

You need to start building up independence. You will do your children a disservice by wrapping them in cotton wool.

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Thanks for the advice but mine did walk to school in year 5, super confident and didn’t bat an eyelid at getting on the bus to secondary/going to town at 11/12.

Again missing the point - it should be the parents deciding if they feel they are ready. The Mum has not taken this step yet and she should have been asked.

I think alot of posters agree that regardless of what age their own children went to the park by themselves, when you offer to look after another persons child, you should actually do that.

DinnaeFashYersel · 25/06/2024 21:42

At 9 my my kids were allowed to play out at the park for at least an hour before checking in.

Yes you are mad

Delatron · 25/06/2024 21:38

Isitautumnyet23 · 25/06/2024 21:19

This ⬆️ I think alot of people are missing the point - it wasn’t the Dad’s place to decide. He could have easily called and asked and she may have thought about it and said yes. Or just taken them with him.

I think from the responses the OP is not in the UK, but its perfectly normal in the UK to wait to 9/10 to start letting them go to the park/walk home etc, but thats for the parents to decide. My eldest child’s friends all started going for their first trips into town together around 11/12, same time as getting the bus to Secondary school.

Some of the responses about walking home at 4/5 are just ridiculous. It did happen in the past but we are in a totally different world now.

The world is no less safe now (in terms of abduction) it’s our perception. As another poster said kids are overprotected in the real world and underprotected online.

Roads are busier so more dangerous- but that means they need to practice crossing roads!

People claiming a 9 year old in a park with his friend, in the daylight, left for 10 minutes is going to get kidnapped….what on earth?

You need to start building up independence. You will do your children a disservice by wrapping them in cotton wool.

KatharinaRosalie · 25/06/2024 21:27

But OP says she's not in the UK. She may be in a country where leaving 9 year olds our unsupervised is perfectly normal and the dad didn't even consider that OP might not like it.

Isitautumnyet23 · 25/06/2024 21:19

SEMPA1234567 · 25/06/2024 21:08

It’s about the age where you might start giving your own child a bit more independence and make the decision to leave them in the park while you pop home for 10 minutes but I would never do that with someone else’s child.

I can understand why you’re upset. If you say your going to look after someone’s child then you should be there 100% of the time unless you’ve agreed this with the parent in advance.

This ⬆️ I think alot of people are missing the point - it wasn’t the Dad’s place to decide. He could have easily called and asked and she may have thought about it and said yes. Or just taken them with him.

I think from the responses the OP is not in the UK, but its perfectly normal in the UK to wait to 9/10 to start letting them go to the park/walk home etc, but thats for the parents to decide. My eldest child’s friends all started going for their first trips into town together around 11/12, same time as getting the bus to Secondary school.

Some of the responses about walking home at 4/5 are just ridiculous. It did happen in the past but we are in a totally different world now.

thismummydrinksgin · 25/06/2024 21:10

I don't think it's the Dads place to leave a child he has in his care. Some stupid response on her. I wouldn't leave a 9 year old.

SEMPA1234567 · 25/06/2024 21:08

It’s about the age where you might start giving your own child a bit more independence and make the decision to leave them in the park while you pop home for 10 minutes but I would never do that with someone else’s child.

I can understand why you’re upset. If you say your going to look after someone’s child then you should be there 100% of the time unless you’ve agreed this with the parent in advance.

IAlwaysTellTheTruthEvenWhenILie · 25/06/2024 20:59

Complete overreaction 🙄
I used to walk home from school at 10 years old. Took half an hour...
Two 9 year olds in a park for 10 minutes is nothing

LittleNightin · 25/06/2024 20:56

Youdontevengohere · 25/06/2024 20:44

A very similar thing happened to my eldest aged 11, but it’s not a reason to not allow them any freedom.

True but I think 11 seems a lot older than 9, especially when it's another parent putting someone else's child potentially in that position. I've started letting my son stay home alone for short periods of time but I wouldn't let him do that with his friend if I hadn't checked it was OK with their parents first.

Rewis · 25/06/2024 20:55

What is the norm where you are? I've noticed that in UK kids tend to get independence later than where I'm from. I would assume 9yo go to park by themselves alone all the time cause that's the norm and wouldnt think to check with the other parent.

Youdontevengohere · 25/06/2024 20:44

LittleNightin · 25/06/2024 20:37

My son was about that age when he slipped off the monkey bars in a park and face planted the floor, he had broke his arm and he also passed out for a few seconds. Luckily I was there with his friend and the friends mum, we had to call an ambulance, it shook us all up, so I'd hate to think if that happened with no adults about as that would be awful for another child to have to deal with on their own.

A very similar thing happened to my eldest aged 11, but it’s not a reason to not allow them any freedom.

Brefugee · 25/06/2024 20:43

Well, OP, if your so cannot be out of an adult's eye for more than a nanosecond, you are going to have to collect him from school and accompany his every waking moment, aren't you?

Or you could accept that he is growing up and needs to learn some self-sufficiency (he grazed his knee! flippin' Norah, why is that such a drama?)

sprigatito · 25/06/2024 20:40

Sorry, I think I replied to the wrong poster there Flowers

sprigatito · 25/06/2024 20:40

KatharinaRosalie · 25/06/2024 20:01

If the school think thats too young to walk to school (no one is allowed in year 4), then in my opinion, thats too young to be in the park alone

OPs not in the UK though. Italy I guess? Don't know about Italy, but 4-5year olds are expected to walk to school alone in Switzerland, if we decide based on school's opinion. And where I am in France, it would not even occur to any parent to question if 9-year olds can go to local park without supervision, of course they are old enough.

So if this is also the case in OPs country, I would suggest to adjust a bit, unless you want to be seen as a massively overprotective parent whose child is not allowed age-appropriate independence according to local standards.

Since when are schools the arbiters of what is safe and reasonable?! Bugger that. Kids mature at different rates, parks and neighbourhoods vary wildly, parents have different thresholds and standards. It's always sensible to check rather than assume when it comes to other people's children.

LittleNightin · 25/06/2024 20:37

My son was about that age when he slipped off the monkey bars in a park and face planted the floor, he had broke his arm and he also passed out for a few seconds. Luckily I was there with his friend and the friends mum, we had to call an ambulance, it shook us all up, so I'd hate to think if that happened with no adults about as that would be awful for another child to have to deal with on their own.

Mummadeze · 25/06/2024 20:27

Personally I would have been extremely unhappy about this and would have said so.

Jayne35 · 25/06/2024 20:04

Times have certainly changed, I used to go to the park round the corner at 9 with my 8yr old sister. I don’t see an issue with kids alone in the park in the daytime for that amount of time, and my own children played out near home at that age too.