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To wonder why the UK is so filthy compared to other places?

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OptimismvsRealism · 24/06/2024 16:58

Everywhere I've visited recently in Europe seems immaculate compared to my home city and other cities I visit for work etc. even the US seems better. What's going on??

Really think filth in public places is at the heart of a lot of our problems.

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paasll · 24/06/2024 18:10

GiantHornets · 24/06/2024 18:01

Why do people think it’s the council’s fault that there is litter everywhere?
It’s the fault of those who throw their rubbish out of the car window, or who don’t take their rubbish home if the bin is full, or who leave their dog shit everywhere.
We all need to take responsibility for our actions

I do agree and I don’t litter.

however the council is at fault. If bins are overflowing (eg at the beach), some will take litter home, but some will dump beside the bin and it’ll blow around. The bins need to be big enough and emptied enough.

saveforthat · 24/06/2024 18:10

JudgeJ · 24/06/2024 17:12

Many places I've been to are much dirtier than in the UK but constantly belittling the UK seems to be many people's hobby on MN!

Yes, this. I went to Naples last year and it was truly disgusting.

MarlieJae · 24/06/2024 18:09

Mickeymix · 24/06/2024 17:43

The Councils do have plenty of money, it's what we pay our Council Tax for. They should spend it locally on cleaning and Libraries and things we can get pleasure from like parks and flower beds. They should manage our money better.

😂😂😂😂

If only that were true! Unless of course you are being ironic.

What money? Is my response.

In my LA, in just one department ( Children and Young People Services) - you know, safeguarding of vulnerable children, children’s social care, early years, education and schoolimprovement, looked after children, etc etc there is a £5 million drop in funding from the central Conservative government this year alone. £5 million to be saved on top of savings already made year on year overtime, savings that have been achieved.

If we have no money to spend on our very precious children, there is no chance that the library is going to stay open, streets cleaned or waste removed more regularly.

Do you watch the news about councils going bankrupt?

LakeTiticaca · 24/06/2024 18:09

People don't take pride in their surroundings anymore. Years ago people use to sweep their fronts and get rid of any weeds, didn't drop litter, didn't vandalise bus shelters or anything they come across. Throw litter, vans, bottles, takeaway wrappers in the streets
They just don't care

shams05 · 24/06/2024 18:06

It's not just rubbish is it?
There's verges covered in weeds, some that have grown into trees, over grown grass and even in some parks the bare minimum is done to make the greens look presentable.
It makes it easier for people who just don't care to leave their mess behind if the place is already a tip.

hattie43 · 24/06/2024 18:05

Blahblah34 · 24/06/2024 17:02

i don’t understand why people think it’s acceptable to just throw rubbish out of their moving cars in the UK. The roadsides are disgusting.

Agreed .

We went to Malaga earlier in the year and all noticed and commented on how spotless it was compared to the UK.

Maddy70 · 24/06/2024 18:05

I haven't lived in the uk for a while its the first thing that hits me on my return. The litter!!!

stressedespresso · 24/06/2024 18:05

An increasingly filthy, disrespectful population and not enough funding or investment in local public services

GiantHornets · 24/06/2024 18:01

Why do people think it’s the council’s fault that there is litter everywhere?
It’s the fault of those who throw their rubbish out of the car window, or who don’t take their rubbish home if the bin is full, or who leave their dog shit everywhere.
We all need to take responsibility for our actions

OptimismvsRealism · 24/06/2024 18:01

In Paris the graffiti is cleaned away really regularly

In the UK we still have stuff from COVID up

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RobertaFirmino · 24/06/2024 17:59

I went to Kos Town recently. Now that really was a shithole. Empty plastic bottles, lager cans and fag packets strewn all over the ruins.

shams05 · 24/06/2024 17:58

Councils have reduced street cleaning to a minimum, removed bins from public areas and parents have stopped expecting anything from their children.
The amount of times, just in the last week, I have had to tell the local kids to please pick up their rubbish is unbelievable. Even walking home from school parents just take the rubbish off their kids and toss it over their shoulder but then are first to complain that the council don't do enough.

MissMarplesNiece · 24/06/2024 17:55

It will get worse in the city where I live, our rubbish collection is going from weekly to fortnightly. We have wheely bins but these get filled up so people just put household rubbish in black plastic bags and leave them on the kerb. They don't fasten them securely so they spill open or get ripped open by foxes, cats, birds, rats or whatever. It really seems to depend on the mood of the binmen on the day as to whether the bags are taken away or not. Goodness knows what it will be like when collection becomes less frequent. A call to the council results in "we've logged your call", but no action.

Fly tipping is a big problem here and today I walked past a house where someone had cut their hedge and swept piles of twigs and leaves into the road. Of course the drains then get blocked and the road floods when there's heavy rain.

We are a dirty society - on an individual level where people think nothing about dropping litter or throwing fast food packaging out of their cars, and on a "corporate" level where councils don't clear up properly and water companies think nothing of discharging shit into rivers.

It's not all bad though - there are wonderful volunteers here who are out every weekend litter picking and doing clear ups. But they shouldn't have to.

kateluvscats · 24/06/2024 17:54

Wolfpa · 24/06/2024 17:05

It depends on where you go, I was in Paris recently and it was an absolute shit tip.

Agreed

ILoveToCleanSaidNooneEver · 24/06/2024 17:53

Blahblah34 · 24/06/2024 17:02

i don’t understand why people think it’s acceptable to just throw rubbish out of their moving cars in the UK. The roadsides are disgusting.

They are disgusting and lazy. Not only is it unsightly, but the other issue with this is that it encourages wildlife to consume the leftovers of the discarded KFC/McDonalds packaging and potentially be obliterated by other motorists. Dirty bastards!

parkrun500club · 24/06/2024 17:53

Immaculate overseas isn't my recent experience. Where have you been?

The UK is awful for litter, but graffiti etc is worse overseas.

And I think people overseas are actually quite bad as well for dropping litter, but they have better public services and it's all cleared up every day, whereas we're lucky if someone comes along once a week. Street cleaners only come up my street about three times a year!

Twototwo15 · 24/06/2024 17:50

Because so many people don’t seem to care about just dropping their rubbish everywhere, even a few meters away from bins. I can’t believe the mess beaches are left in after hot days, as pictured in newspapers, with a sea of rubbish so thick you can barely see the sand. What is wrong with them all? Badly brought up or just selfish pigs.

paasll · 24/06/2024 17:50

I think we are pretty awful as a population.

Many of us:

-leave dog shit on pavement
-Chuck litter from car window

this weekend, I stepped out of my front door to walk my dog and there was a a dog shit just outside my property. I picked it up. Then my elderly mum called me and said could I help her because there was dog shit right outside her house!! I don’t know what is wrong with people.

councils also have their role in all of this - inadequate public bins/not emptied frequently enough, making litter disposal difficult with restricted tip opening times/booking needed/payments for certain items - all this contributes to someone deciding to fly tip

if we weren’t dirty pigs, our streets wouldn’t be dirty

OptimismvsRealism · 24/06/2024 17:44

The Budgets in the UK dwarf many on the continent

Local authorities in the UK do have more responsibilities but they also spend more on optional stuff

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Mickeymix · 24/06/2024 17:43

The Councils do have plenty of money, it's what we pay our Council Tax for. They should spend it locally on cleaning and Libraries and things we can get pleasure from like parks and flower beds. They should manage our money better.

Natsku · 24/06/2024 17:41

NowyouhaveDunnett · 24/06/2024 17:01

Because the other countries have street cleansing- road sweeper vehicles, people who sweep up, clean the gullies of leaves etc.

Councils in the UK don't have money to pay for that

I'm in Finland, I've seen trucks washing the roads here - drives along and sprays water down on the road to clean away all the dust and gravel.

CaptainOliviaBenson · 24/06/2024 17:41

Because they haven't had 14 years of the Tories bleeding the country and local councils dry.

Bulkypeepants · 24/06/2024 17:37

sashagabadon · 24/06/2024 17:00

But our motorway verges are terrible

M69 between Coventry and Leicester - my god, there's more rubbish on the sides than at the tip

Disgraceful. Ashamed to be British sometimes.

Wallywobbles · 24/06/2024 17:37

We live in rural Normandy and are always stunned by the state of the motorways. And the rural roads. Near my DSis you could lose a car in some of the pot holes.