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Men and their fragile egos

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AStepAtaTime · 24/06/2024 12:38

Foo Fighters and Taylor Swift have been playing in London this weekend, with Dave Grohl taking an obvious swipe at TS in his set, by nicknaming his gigs "the errors tour," and that errors occur in his set because his band "actually play live."

Dave Grohl is worth $330 million. He could buy the moon if he wanted. He never needs to worry about money. But what he clearly does worry about is being trumped at the superstar status polls by the sheer footfall of people attending Taylor's gigs and the outpouring of love and happiness her concerts provoke. I am not a Swifty, I don't listen to her songs but it's evident to me that she has more to offer to the crowd that simply her music. Her concerts are full of kids, and adults of all ages. There's no viciousness or unpleasant rhetoric. She advocates empathy and engagement, and connectivity between people. That to me, appears to be her superpower. People like the feeling she evokes in them.

Dave Grohl on the other hand, is a superbly talented musician with a career spanning nearly 3 decades in the spotlight. He has the ability to create and play excellent music. He has no need to feel threatened by another performer. And yet his nasty comments about TS show that he does, in fact have a need to publicly put her down.

I would argue that DG is the musically superior of the two. His comments are odd and somehow petty given that he's mega-rich and extremely talented. So what else could have motivated him to say this? It must be that his ego is fragile and is under threat. A man who could have anything he wants and is at the top of his artistic game and yet............his ego is hurt by a successful, creative woman.

Do you think he would have taken this cheap shot at a fellow performer if that fellow performer was another man? I don't think he would.

It's so unattractive and infantile for someone of his standing to bitch about a woman on stage in this way. He could play his gig, enjoy doing his thing and try and be an adult. But no. He had to get that pot shot in there. He could use his status for good, rather than simply pander to his mammoth ego but obviously he's not mature enough.

Will men ever grow the fuck up?

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LaurieFairyCake · 24/06/2024 14:01

Everyone should be mentioning private jet use surely 🤷‍♀️

Since we've proper fucked the climate Hmm

beguilingeyes · 24/06/2024 13:56

It may have been taken out of context, but it comes across as petty and mean.

Bobbotgegrinch · 24/06/2024 13:56

His 17yo daughter has had an absolute ton of grief from Taylor Swift fans after mentioning her private jet use on social media, to the extent that she's had to shut down her social media accounts.

I did wonder whether Dave Grohl is trying to take the focus off of her a bit by taking the piss of of Swift himself. Stupid thing to do but it just seems very unlike him otherwise

Mrsjayy · 24/06/2024 13:49

Taylor swift is a young woman to me and Dave grohl I appreciate she Is a grown woman and I didn't mean to infantise her but maybe Dave grohl shouldn't be having a go at women who he has obviously got a personal or maybe professional grievance with. TS fans are fierce but I don't think she advocates online bullying of other women.

I'm sure Dave Grohls daughter can own her own words..

PartOfTheFurniture12 · 24/06/2024 13:40

Grohl has praised Swift in the past, so it seems that something has soured the relationship. There's speculation that Grohl's 17-year-old daughter was harassed online by Swifties because she criticised Swift's private jet use, so maybe it's something to do with that. Agree that it's disappointing and childish and that he should be more professional, though. Dave has had beef with male rock stars before, fwiw.

I'm not saying any of that because I have any particular love for Grohl. It's just a bit one-dimensional and sexist to jump to "fragile male ego" and "I bet he wouldn't say anything if she was a man" when there is probably far more nuance behind the scenes. Swift has been popular for a long time. If Grohl was threatened by her success then it would have come up ages ago and he probably would have said similar about other big female artists like Beyonce.

Also, surely the whole "he's attacking a young woman" angle from a PP is a bit infantilising? Taylor Swift is 34, she's a grown adult with a very successful career spanning decades. She has handled his comment very diplomatically, came out looking the bigger person and is clearly more than capable of holding her own.

https://www.thehindu.com/entertainment/music/taylor-swift-seemingly-mocked-by-dave-grohl-during-foo-fighters-london-show/article68326808.ece

https://www.google.com/amp/s/variety.com/2024/music/news/foo-fighters-dave-grohl-mocks-taylor-swift-london-1236045245/amp/

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/the-brief-feud-between-dave-grohl-and-lars-ulrich/

Taylor Swift seemingly mocked by Dave Grohl during Foo Fighters’ London show

Foo Fighters' Dave Grohl jokes about Taylor Swift during London concert, sparking playful banter between the two artists.

https://www.thehindu.com/entertainment/music/taylor-swift-seemingly-mocked-by-dave-grohl-during-foo-fighters-london-show/article68326808.ece

Mrsjayy · 24/06/2024 12:48

Dave Grohl has daughters I hope they give him hell. I wondered if it was meant as a joke of some sort but I can't see the funny side.

Howbizarre22 · 24/06/2024 12:46

It’s pathetic. Men just simply cannot take the idea of a woman overshadowing them. Absolutely pathetic.

Mrsjayy · 24/06/2024 12:43

I just saw this on This Morning I'm so disappointed I really am. i love Dave Grohl and I really thought he supported other artists etc etc and to take a pop at a young woman old enough to be his daughter and who actually is kicking arse and: taking over the world " with this tour . He should be absolutely ashamed of himself. TS did answer him back apparently but this is misogyny at its worst.