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Men and their fragile egos

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AStepAtaTime · 24/06/2024 12:38

Foo Fighters and Taylor Swift have been playing in London this weekend, with Dave Grohl taking an obvious swipe at TS in his set, by nicknaming his gigs "the errors tour," and that errors occur in his set because his band "actually play live."

Dave Grohl is worth $330 million. He could buy the moon if he wanted. He never needs to worry about money. But what he clearly does worry about is being trumped at the superstar status polls by the sheer footfall of people attending Taylor's gigs and the outpouring of love and happiness her concerts provoke. I am not a Swifty, I don't listen to her songs but it's evident to me that she has more to offer to the crowd that simply her music. Her concerts are full of kids, and adults of all ages. There's no viciousness or unpleasant rhetoric. She advocates empathy and engagement, and connectivity between people. That to me, appears to be her superpower. People like the feeling she evokes in them.

Dave Grohl on the other hand, is a superbly talented musician with a career spanning nearly 3 decades in the spotlight. He has the ability to create and play excellent music. He has no need to feel threatened by another performer. And yet his nasty comments about TS show that he does, in fact have a need to publicly put her down.

I would argue that DG is the musically superior of the two. His comments are odd and somehow petty given that he's mega-rich and extremely talented. So what else could have motivated him to say this? It must be that his ego is fragile and is under threat. A man who could have anything he wants and is at the top of his artistic game and yet............his ego is hurt by a successful, creative woman.

Do you think he would have taken this cheap shot at a fellow performer if that fellow performer was another man? I don't think he would.

It's so unattractive and infantile for someone of his standing to bitch about a woman on stage in this way. He could play his gig, enjoy doing his thing and try and be an adult. But no. He had to get that pot shot in there. He could use his status for good, rather than simply pander to his mammoth ego but obviously he's not mature enough.

Will men ever grow the fuck up?

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NaughtyBoyGeorgeMichaelJacksonBrown · 24/06/2024 19:20

I'd give my last Rolo to bet it was planned and there'll be some sort of collab and reconciliation where they both come out looking great.

We are never, ever, ever...going to be your monkey wrench

All my life I've been searching for...lavender haze

There goes my hero...look what you made me do

fiddleleaffig · 24/06/2024 19:18

I've lost all respect for David Grohl now and will happily boycott Foo Fighters from now on.

Whether you like Taylor Swift or not, there is never any need to insult and tear down another artist.

It just comes across like a pathetic man intimidated by a woman's success. Would he say the same about Ed Sheeran? Doubt it

Newgirls · 24/06/2024 18:59

Whether she or anyone plays live or not is irrelevant. He didn’t need to say anything. Older blokes making jokes about younger women is rarely a good look

Boxina · 24/06/2024 18:54

The thing that's really surprised me about this is that Americans say eras as errors.

I saw the clip earlier and thought it was unnecessary, it seems odd to be negative about her when he didn't need to.

CHEESEY13 · 24/06/2024 18:45

Oh dear, Mr Grohl - sorry you're ego was challenged by a powerg)

RedYellowPinkGreenPurpleOrangeBlue · 24/06/2024 18:40

I agree. I always liked the Foo Fighters, and Dave Grohl, but that was a dickhead comment. He's weirdly bitter, and jealous of Taylor's success. He's just a new version of Kanye West. Can't stand it that a beautiful young woman is a roaring worldwide success, and is achieving the levels of success and fan adoration that he wishes he could get.

NOT a good look. Gone right of Dave now.

SoEmbarrassed2024 · 24/06/2024 18:38

The bit that got missed from the coverage is that he started by saying they'd usually play Wembley when in London but someone else was playing there....

howdonaldideathqueue · 24/06/2024 18:35

I'm a fan of both TS and foo fighters (and have been to the Era's tour and foo fighters latest tour within a week of each other) so definitely rubbish to see this. The FF show I was at, he did make a joke about the 'errors' tour (she was playing in Liverpool the same night) but didn't say anything negative about TS though it was a bit uncomfortable when the crowd were booing.

The video definitely makes it seem like more of a dig this time round and it's a shame when there were undoubtedly fans of both at the show, that it seems like the crowd were encouraged to boo. Just seems like a cheap shot from DG to be honest.

With the issue with his daughter, apparently she minimised a situation with AI porn which TS was a victim of which was what started the pile on by TS fans - then carried on with the private jet comment. Doesn't excuse the disgusting behaviour of some TS 'fans' back to her though...

Highly doubt he is jealous of TS though as some people seem to think 😂

VillageLifeIsTricky · 24/06/2024 18:33

"So what else could have motivated him to say this?"

A joke, perhaps? I took it a different way, as though he was being self-depracating and taking the piss out of his band, as opposed to a sleight on TS.

He's always supported her previously. Plus, he didn't say anything that was untrue, it's facts, so I don't understand why everyone has their tits in a tangle over the truth.

katebushh · 24/06/2024 18:26

To add I can't stand the Foo's but Nirvana were seminal in my teens.

katebushh · 24/06/2024 18:24

Isn't Dave Grohl known as the nicest bloke in music?

How anyone can get so up in arms and offended over a silly innocent undamaging jibe I have absolutely no doubt was made in jest is staggering.

Get down off your high horses ffs.

ALunchbox · 24/06/2024 18:18

Well I don't know who DG is but assuming he is right and TS doesn't sing live, I think he has a point.

JandLandG · 24/06/2024 18:11

TinySmol · 24/06/2024 18:05

I do not believe that Taylor Swift sings live at her concerts.

Well, you're wrong.

What Grohl was referring to was the use of some backing music tracks at live gigs, I would have thought.

As I understand it, TS does have a live band and live backing singers, and ofc sings live herself.

But many bands - even rockier bands - play with backing tracks these days. Or so I'm reliably informed by my gig going children who know about these things.

Grohl was just having a little mess about and I can't believe I've spent so much time thinking about this thread this afternoon!

It's only cos my kids went to see TS in Liverpool recently.

She's better than him and will no doubt have an amusing comeback next time she plays.

TinySmol · 24/06/2024 18:05

I do not believe that Taylor Swift sings live at her concerts.

Blouson · 24/06/2024 18:01

Dave Grohl is a thoroughly good bloke. Theres more hate in this thread than his joke about Swifty! What a pathetic, tenuous way to have a man bash.

Newgirls · 24/06/2024 17:58

He didn’t need to say anything. 💯 precious ego moment. She makes him feel old or he wanted some of her attention.

SuePreemly · 24/06/2024 17:36

It's Dave Grohl.

He's just larking about on stage, means none of it seriously.....and took his daughters to the tour in the USA.

Lots of pearl clutching going on. It's a joke which went over a lot of people's heads, it seems.

beguilingeyes · 24/06/2024 17:33

Things that women create/care about are often dismissed as lesser by men, who invariably make up the bulk of critics.
My favourite singer had seven top 40 albums in the early albums in the early 80s and yet most reviews focused almost entirely on her appearance, not in a flattering way at all.

FrippEnos · 24/06/2024 17:29

YABU for having an issue with one man and saying all men.

Mrsjayy · 24/06/2024 17:29

KidneyWarrior · 24/06/2024 17:24

I think he was a bit dismissive of her achievements. I was at his gig and he called her a little girl.I don't think it was massively serious, just a bit of a shame to pull someone down. And the crowd did boo her so yeah, it was a bit negative. Shame.

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It is a shame he didn't need to say it.

KidneyWarrior · 24/06/2024 17:24

I think he was a bit dismissive of her achievements. I was at his gig and he called her a little girl.I don't think it was massively serious, just a bit of a shame to pull someone down. And the crowd did boo her so yeah, it was a bit negative. Shame.

PostItInABook · 24/06/2024 17:05

There are at least 20 other famous people that use private jets who have a bigger CO2 emission total than TS, yet she seems to be the only one that ever gets targeted so relentlessly for it.

Michelle12A · 24/06/2024 16:49

Attack Dave not every other man on this planet…

plenty of men aren’t jealous people

Fairyliz · 24/06/2024 16:27

Dave who? Never heard of him.
On the other hand you can’t escape from articles about Taylor Swift.
Think jealousy has raised its ugly head.

BabySnarkDoDoo · 24/06/2024 16:13

I'm not sure it's that deep. I'm not a big FF fan but did go to one of their gigs in the early 00s. DG came across as being extremely arrogant - got annoyed with the crowd for singing along and was making snide comments about the support act (forget who it was but was some lesser known all male rock band of the time).