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Did anyone enjoy Taylor but felt at 3.5 hours it…. dragged a little?

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Fromthenotorious · 24/06/2024 07:12

I admit that i’m not her biggest fan and it was a bit of a fluke that i got a ticket to go with friends.

I enjoy her music and think she’s amazing but a dedicated Swiftie… I am not!

I just felt that it could have been at least thirty mins shorter and would have been more enjoyable. Even amongst the hardened Swifties around us, I sensed a little restlessness.

Anyone else agree?

OP posts:
CurtainsOfSparta · 24/06/2024 10:34

Lilysienna1 · 24/06/2024 10:23

You may laugh at my post or think I’m insane. But for some of us TS is everything. For myself and my teen daughter, she is a huge part of our lives. My daughter was self harming, eating disorder and other mental health issues. She was performing badly at school and misbehaving. And then she got into TS, and within months she was a completely different girl. I owe a lot to Taylor swift, and our dream is to see her one day. Her music brings a huge amount of joy to so many, and to us she means the world.

And that’s amazing, it’s so good when people find something artistic that can change their lives in such a a positive way. I recall hearing a man with a drug addiction saying that hearing ‘Bittersweet Symphony’ got him off heroin.

However, that doesn’t mean that other people don’t deserve to go to concerts or that they have to enjoy every second. The OP found the gig a bit too long for her. Thats it. She’s still a fan, she enjoyed the gig, but she found it too much. She’s not rubbing it in or attacking anyone or diminishing your experience of Taylor Swift, she just found it too much and was asking if anyone else did.
That’s all it was.

Lilysienna1 · 24/06/2024 10:34

Floorbard · 24/06/2024 10:31

She isn’t gloating. She went to a concert and has started a discussion about it. I get her point- I would personally find 3.5 hours too much, no matter how much I liked the artist/band.

I guess so. I will admit I’m coming across as slightly hysterical. It’s just gutting when you try so hard just to get a ticket. I was willing to pay a LOT. But it wasn’t to be. I know I need to get over it a little 😀

CurtainsOfSparta · 24/06/2024 10:34

Lilysienna1 · 24/06/2024 10:23

You may laugh at my post or think I’m insane. But for some of us TS is everything. For myself and my teen daughter, she is a huge part of our lives. My daughter was self harming, eating disorder and other mental health issues. She was performing badly at school and misbehaving. And then she got into TS, and within months she was a completely different girl. I owe a lot to Taylor swift, and our dream is to see her one day. Her music brings a huge amount of joy to so many, and to us she means the world.

And that’s amazing, it’s so good when people find something artistic that can change their lives in such a a positive way. I recall hearing a man with a drug addiction saying that hearing ‘Bittersweet Symphony’ got him off heroin.

However, that doesn’t mean that other people don’t deserve to go to concerts or that they have to enjoy every second. The OP found the gig a bit too long for her. Thats it. She’s still a fan, she enjoyed the gig, but she found it too much. She’s not rubbing it in or attacking anyone or diminishing your experience of Taylor Swift, she just found it too much and was asking if anyone else did.
That’s all it was.

ExitChasedByCars · 24/06/2024 10:32

BitOutOfPractice · 24/06/2024 10:28

I wasn’t addressing the op with that part @ExitChasedByCars. I was addressing the several self professed music snobs who came after her. That’s why I started my 2nd paragraph with “op…”.

@BitOutOfPractice You wrote “musical snob” so I just assumed you were referring to the OP. Thanks for clarifying Brew

Floorbard · 24/06/2024 10:31

Lilysienna1 · 24/06/2024 10:13

Wow. This post is like a literal slap in the face to all the real fans that didn’t get a ticket, but spent countless hours, days, weeks and months desperately trying to get tickets. Absolutely no need to come on here and gloat. I’ve watched the entire concert several times now, and each time I feel overcome with sadness, that I didn’t get to be there and be a part of such a huge huge gig. I hope I get a chance at least once in my life to experience this. Please please don’t gloat. It’s not pretty.

She isn’t gloating. She went to a concert and has started a discussion about it. I get her point- I would personally find 3.5 hours too much, no matter how much I liked the artist/band.

BitOutOfPractice · 24/06/2024 10:28

I wasn’t addressing the op with that part @ExitChasedByCars. I was addressing the several self professed music snobs who came after her. That’s why I started my 2nd paragraph with “op…”.

ExitChasedByCars · 24/06/2024 10:28

I guess I have had my first hand experience of being exposed to Swifties 🏳️ And apparently the OP is now a “literal slap” and I’m still trying to understand how it is. But I guess I’m not a Swiftie so I won’t understand.

Hopefully Swifties can now calm down and remember that this is just a discussion board and we are not a hive mind. We all can have varying perspectives. It’s ok not to like the same things and it’s also ok to voice different opinions.

Lilysienna1 · 24/06/2024 10:23

You may laugh at my post or think I’m insane. But for some of us TS is everything. For myself and my teen daughter, she is a huge part of our lives. My daughter was self harming, eating disorder and other mental health issues. She was performing badly at school and misbehaving. And then she got into TS, and within months she was a completely different girl. I owe a lot to Taylor swift, and our dream is to see her one day. Her music brings a huge amount of joy to so many, and to us she means the world.

biscuiteer · 24/06/2024 10:21

BeckyAMumsnet · 24/06/2024 09:52

Hi everyone, can we call for a bit of peace and love on the thread, please? OK we'll say it, can't resist. You need to calm down... We welcome a wide range of views on Mumsnet - that's what makes this place so interesting and informative - and it's really not on to get personal with someone because they have a different opinion from you. MNers who repeatedly break our guidelines may have their accounts suspended, and we're sure you'd rather it didn't come to that.

Fair.

First time I’ve ever said STFU to anyone online ever, it’s not a good move.

Thanks for the birthday wishes @Iaskedyouthrice It truly is a wonderful sunny day ☀️

Floorbard · 24/06/2024 10:20

KitKatChunki · 24/06/2024 08:52

I know, so sad to think of all the kids who would love to see her live being pipped to the post by people who just want to moan about her afterwards for clicks online. I really don't know what the point is.
What a world.

Op literally just asked if anyone thought the gig was a bit too long! Your reaction reminds me of back in the day when your friend would fall out with you for a week because you said you didn’t like S club 7 as much as steps 😭 such an overreaction!

Lilysienna1 · 24/06/2024 10:20

ExitChasedByCars · 24/06/2024 10:19

I feel like I’m in the twilight zone. I never saw an ounce of gloating from the OP. But several Swifties have pointed this out and now apparently the OP is a “literal slap” in the face. What is going on? Easter Confused

if you’re not a swiftie, with all due respect, you wouldn’t understand.

ExitChasedByCars · 24/06/2024 10:19

I feel like I’m in the twilight zone. I never saw an ounce of gloating from the OP. But several Swifties have pointed this out and now apparently the OP is a “literal slap” in the face. What is going on? Easter Confused

ExitChasedByCars · 24/06/2024 10:15

BitOutOfPractice · 24/06/2024 10:07

@SerafinasGoose i was married to one for ten years so I do claim some special insight. Like what music you like, I really couldn’t give a damn, but sneering and sniping at other’s tastes because you believe yourself to have some superior insight, gets really old really quickly.

@BitOutOfPractice So how does that make OP a music snob? Easter Confused With all due respect, it seems as though you’re projecting a little too much.

EveningSpread · 24/06/2024 10:15

FromBackHome · 24/06/2024 09:17

I’d be interested to understand the mentality of spending time online saying negative things about an artist, who doesn’t seem to have done anything terrible, but you just don’t rate their music.

I can’t imagine making multiple posts about an artist that I’m just not into. If I’m not into someone, but others are snd the artist seems perfectly pleasant, I’m not interested in commenting.

I'm interested to understand the mentality of people who, like you, suggest that there is something wrong with anyone who extends conversations beyond blind approval: "I like Taylor Swift" or "I love lasagne".

If we only ever talked about things we like, we wouldn't be able to discuss anything important at all! Like politics, or relationship problems, or situations we find unpleasant.

Unless it's only pop music about which we shouldn't speak negatively....?!

It's not like anyone is saying anything horrible. People are entitled to express things outside the realms of pure approval, and can find common ground or shared interest in the rejection or critique of things.

Engaging critically with the world doesn't make you into some nasty weirdo with suspicious motives.

Lilysienna1 · 24/06/2024 10:13

Wow. This post is like a literal slap in the face to all the real fans that didn’t get a ticket, but spent countless hours, days, weeks and months desperately trying to get tickets. Absolutely no need to come on here and gloat. I’ve watched the entire concert several times now, and each time I feel overcome with sadness, that I didn’t get to be there and be a part of such a huge huge gig. I hope I get a chance at least once in my life to experience this. Please please don’t gloat. It’s not pretty.

ExitChasedByCars · 24/06/2024 10:12

@Anonym00se That’s a good point. But I guess, when it comes to Taylor Swift, it seems as though any form of constructive criticism or the mere thought of it, you’re a hater, unkind etc. I’m sure there are Taylor Swift haters/antis etc., which is something that I don’t agree with, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that you’re therefore not allowed to have different tastes in music or cannot be critical of a public figure who clearly has a lot of clout and can do a world of good with her billions if she wishes to but does a lot of harm for the environment. We are allowed to have different perspectives and that doesn’t make people trolls or haters. I didn’t even see any comments from OP disparaging Taylor Swift, but I guess she must be “grateful” because many people missed out and is now a “music snob” and not a “girl’s girl”.

Devonbabs · 24/06/2024 10:11

Devonbabs · 24/06/2024 10:05

Exactly- classical music has never been more accessible for everyone- most pop music these days is bland and uninteresting and peer pressure popular.

There’s some great music still being created in many genres, creative, challenging, important.

The type of pop music TS belongs is, and always has been, disposable. It does nothing art is important for, it’s something that’s popular, because it’s popular, the tickets were for an event which everyone wanted to see, largely because everyone wanted to see it!

it’s a collective ritual - people want/needcollective rituals. I suppose to that extent it fulfils a purpose. It just offers very little else.

In fact, looking at this thread it follows almost exactly the atheist vs religious threads in structure, arguments etc. Guess the cult of celebrity really is the new religion.

BitOutOfPractice · 24/06/2024 10:07

@SerafinasGoose i was married to one for ten years so I do claim some special insight. Like what music you like, I really couldn’t give a damn, but sneering and sniping at other’s tastes because you believe yourself to have some superior insight, gets really old really quickly.

TheTwirlyPoos · 24/06/2024 10:06

ExitChasedByCars · 24/06/2024 09:44

But how is that OP’s fault? To mischaracterise her thread as “slagging off” Taylor Swift. With one particular poster who wanted the OP to, and I am quoting her word for word, “Stop gloating on here and think of what you've just witnessed.” And unless I missed it, I haven’t seen any post going on about not being able to listen to 3 minutes, but rather about longevity. I’ve seen more heated comments from Swifties which is very off-putting and also equally fascinating.

07.48 am was the three minute post. And now - just like Taylor bingo - we've had 'generic pop' and 'massive carbon footprint'.

It's so tired.

Devonbabs · 24/06/2024 10:05

SerafinasGoose · 24/06/2024 09:47

Funny that, isn't it? I was a festival-goer until fairly recently (Download and previously Sonisphere/Knebworth) - for which, granted, tickets to stay the full three days were quite costly.

Tickets for opera/classical are a steal by comparison; other than for Royal Opera, which certainly aren't more expensive than your average in-demand rock gig; not to mention a football match. Yet this form of live experience is deemed 'elitist' because the tickets are too expensive. Why? In most cases they're cheaper, especially some of the very respectable northern companies.

Do not compute.

Exactly- classical music has never been more accessible for everyone- most pop music these days is bland and uninteresting and peer pressure popular.

There’s some great music still being created in many genres, creative, challenging, important.

The type of pop music TS belongs is, and always has been, disposable. It does nothing art is important for, it’s something that’s popular, because it’s popular, the tickets were for an event which everyone wanted to see, largely because everyone wanted to see it!

it’s a collective ritual - people want/needcollective rituals. I suppose to that extent it fulfils a purpose. It just offers very little else.

Anonym00se · 24/06/2024 10:00

BitOutOfPractice · 24/06/2024 09:53

There is literally nothing more more boring and insufferable than a music snob. Nothing on earth.

op what a really tone deaf post. You didn’t want to go anyway and then moaned about it after. Have you been on social media and seen The people who really really wanted to go and couldn’t get tickets? Or who couldn’t afford to go? Have a word with yourself!

To be fair, there will always be people who can’t afford to go to concerts/go on holiday/buy a new car or house…

That doesn’t mean someone should never mention it or complain if they’ve had a bad experience. If someone said “we went out for a meal and the waiter spat in my dinner and called me an arsehole” that we should reply “There are people who can’t afford to eat out. You should be grateful you could go in the first place”.

For the record I took my dd to TS and my back was breaking by the end of it (I can’t stand due to disability) and almost 7 hours in a football stadium seat was a killer!

SerafinasGoose · 24/06/2024 09:55

There is literally nothing more more boring and insufferable than a music snob. Nothing on earth.

Oh, I think there is ...

BitOutOfPractice · 24/06/2024 09:53

There is literally nothing more more boring and insufferable than a music snob. Nothing on earth.

op what a really tone deaf post. You didn’t want to go anyway and then moaned about it after. Have you been on social media and seen The people who really really wanted to go and couldn’t get tickets? Or who couldn’t afford to go? Have a word with yourself!

BeckyAMumsnet · 24/06/2024 09:52

Hi everyone, can we call for a bit of peace and love on the thread, please? OK we'll say it, can't resist. You need to calm down... We welcome a wide range of views on Mumsnet - that's what makes this place so interesting and informative - and it's really not on to get personal with someone because they have a different opinion from you. MNers who repeatedly break our guidelines may have their accounts suspended, and we're sure you'd rather it didn't come to that.

RedYellowPinkGreenPurpleOrangeBlue · 24/06/2024 09:52

Screamingabdabz · 24/06/2024 09:46

Nobody plays Joni Mitchell or Carole King any more either! They’re remembered fondly because they were talented female artists of their generation. As is Taylor Swift. Lyrically she’s a genius. Some of her lines take my breath away they are that clever. But the posters who say ‘she’s just a vapid pop princess’ don’t get it, which is fine, but they’re bitter about it. Which is not.

Why tear down this talented young woman who is bringing joy everywhere she goes?

Exactly this. It didn't take long for people to start berating and bashing Taylor Swift on this thread, did it? 🙄

edited after seeing Becky's post. I'm not getting roped into an argument with the Taylor Swift haters.

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