Did anyone enjoy Taylor but felt at 3.5 hours it…. dragged a little?

I also don't think a lot of posters on this thread realise that for those 30 and below that stevie wonder, Elton John, Bruce Springsteen etc. aren't huge names to that generation and aren't particularly a relevant comparison. The only one I'd have any interest in as a 31 year old is Elton John and even then I wouldn't sit through a full gig, it's different generations.

I agree with this. Her most commercially successful music is not her best music, it's just the songs that do best within the mainstream. She knows what does well with charts vs her genuinely excellent music.

I went to Liverpool, and wished it was just one song longer, proper gutted she removed Long Live from the set list.

In all honesty, some part were not my fav, speaking as a fan since her second album, but the point of the show was to highlight all her eras, all chapters of her life. Shes been in the industry for a long time now, it had to be that long. Plus she wanted to showcase albums that she hadnt toured previously, which was a lot of music. There were parts i sat down for, parts i danced like i was 12 for, parts i screamed out like a (rather expensive) therapy session. Thats the joy of the show, even if you are not a hardcore dedicated full career fan, you can still enjoy the songs you do love, and the amazing show that she puts on.

Whether you like her or not, her success in undeniable, she has music people can relate to even if you dont. Plus, the atmosphere at her shows is just lovely. I dont understand the hate she gets. I feel the released songs that become mainstream are often her weakest, and if people gave her albums a chance, maybe they would understand the hype more, even if it isnt their tastes or style of music.

But music is all a matter of preference, theres plenty of music genres i dislike listening to, but i can respect the artists and their successes without needing to slate them, i just chose not to listen to them. I feel TS gets more hate and judgement than is justifiable.

Mediocre, yeah, right. Elton John is one of the greatest musical talents of the rock/pop era. His back catalogue is up there with Stevie Wonder/The Beatles/Paul Simon.
He behaved quite badly during his drug days which are pretty much behind him now and his well known for his generosity and support of new artists. None of that is relevant to his talent though.

We're going in summer but have had some good training this year with the foo fighters and Bruce Springsteen. All good value for money and great shows.

I loved every minute.

DD2 said it was the best day of her life and wants to go again.

Some people are so bitter and jealous of this beautiful young woman who has incredible success and a massive fan base.

😂😂😂

Fair enough, I think a lot of the posts are blurring into one at this point!

Apologies @FromBackHome, I misunderstood your post.

I don’t think she needs your advice 🤣

They weren’t talking about OP I suspect. There was one poster in particular who spouted obsessive, negative comments for an hour straight.

I don't think they were talking about the OP, I think they were talking about the stuff that followed.

The OP literally said that, whilst not a Swiftie, they like TS. They went to her gig with mates, enjoyed it, but thought it was a bit too long.

How did you get from that, to the bullshit quoted above? It's terrifying that this is coming from actual adults. The OP did not say a single unkind word about her - just that the gig was too long for her.

TTPD is on before the surprise songs, with Midnights ending the show unless it changes again

Midnights is my least favourite but I loved TTPD so I will stay for that

We left in the middle of Mastermind because I don't really like Midnights that much! Got a seat on the train which was lovely. There were at least 3 songs cut which meant I'd have preferred to see the pre-TTPD setlist.

@TheTwirlyPoos Still some songs from Red! Not sure there’s much, if anything, from Speak Now and Folklore/Evermore has been combined into one era.

@putting totally agree - I haven't seen an updated set list but I think I saw Red had been cut or wasn't on in the first place - DH will be gutted!!

I agree with OP - I like Taylor Swift, went to see the concert because I like her music, but it did feel slightly too long (and I actually left a couple of songs before the end, as a lot of people were doing)

For me it was probably to do with the eras I like least being at the end of the show. I’d probably not have found it too long if most of TTPD (and, arguably, some of Midnights) had been replaced by songs from her earlier albums!

I wouldn't even want to watch ten mins let alone 3.5 hrs wow

I thought the comment earlier about entertainment not equalling value was really interesting.

For me tho, as for many many others, she isn't 'generic pop'. I find her lyrics evocative, clever, layered, thought provoking. I respect her talents as a musician, I'm not saying she's a concert pianist but her ability to play a number of instruments as well as write her own songs is a skill in itself.

'genius' isn't actually a thing. Unless you are going by Mensa standards. So then it's down to personal reception.

I'm a huge fan of her music, I have been for eighteen years. It gets a bit wearing with the insinuation that it you like Taylor you must be stupid. Which is what is done time and time again.

I think the same is true of Madonna. She was a pretty good dancer, didn't have a bad voice, and could throw together an entertaining pop video when those used to be a thing. But a stand-out in any of these capacities? Not really, no.

Something about her just tapped into the mood of the times, particularly given that up until then, women weren't expected to be sexual, independent beings who took their pleasure where they chose to find it. She was a very business savvy, smart, sassy and sexual woman who lived as she liked and worked as she chose. In those times I don't think the world had ever really seen her like before.

Her constant image-changes rescued her for some years from serving up the same old rehashed look and music (in fact, behind the veneer this was precisely what she did do). Back in her more punky looking days - way before the Gaultier corsets - nearly every teenage girl wanted to look like her.

She was a superlative show-woman who packed out her venues and really knew how to put on a show. She was also fearless, bright, and had a real head for marketing. She's the very definition of the triumph of image over substance, and whilst her music might not be to my taste I do think she's one admirable woman and I willingly respect her guts, originality and determination. What a trail-blazer.

Nothing to do with being sensitive it's not nice on the ear and it's not necessary, why does she need to do it?
Trying to show off and falling massively.
I reiterate money dosent buy class. My opinion.

Why not? Between adults who really cares? It’s not her responsibility to pander to those of an easily offended and overly sensitive disposition.

I once saw Prince play a 3 hour set and then a 4 hour after show party. Stamina is required to be a good star and also a worthy fan 😂