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asthmashmasthma · 23/06/2024 20:49

Our gorgeous puppy is 8 months old. It's the first time we've encountered this problem so looking for urgent advice. He is too hot and is panting exessively. We haven't taken him out much today but we live in a new build small house that gets wayyy to hot in this weather. It constantly reaches 30 degrees plus inside. I also can't open windows due to DS being in hospital with an asthma attack this weekend due to pollen so things are really blooming difficult in this heat. This might sound stupid but I know when the Dc have had temperatures we've always been told not to put a cold wet flannel on them to cool them down. Is this the same with dogs or can I put a wet towel down in his bed for him? Sorry if this sounds really stupid we've just never had this problem before!

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QuestionableMouse · 24/06/2024 16:44

If you get one, make sure it's a proper certified hepa filter - some claim to be but don't actually do much!

asthmashmasthma · 24/06/2024 06:33

Just wanted to update. Pup is fine this morning, I lay a nice cool, wet towel in his crate which he slept on. He's not panting and has had lots of water. His bed is actually in the coolest room in our house so hopefully that will help. I should have clarified that he isn't flat faced at all, the only bit of pug in him (that we can see) is the tail. We will only be walking him very early in the morning or late at night for the next few days whilst the weather is going to be much hotter and his cool mat is arriving today so I'm sure things will be easier then.
On a side note DS still managed to have a bad night even with the windows closed so it looks like we will be back to a&e today Sad but thank you for the suggestions of the air purifier things, I will definitely look in to that.

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WiddlinDiddlin · 23/06/2024 23:37

https://www.rvc.ac.uk/research/research-centres-and-facilities/veterinary-epidemiology-economics-and-public-health/news/new-research-from-the-rvc-suggests-human-heat-health-alerts-could-help-prevent-heatstroke-in-dogs?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAAR3UwuUbYaJvsq4h3Eirsp_-ZYl_ED-7argcMHntnygIZ1AMHXaudbM5vzI_aem_PpZLGHY-WCn1HHAiyrf3qA#:~:text=Additionally%2C%20the%20RVC%20advises%20%E2%80%9Ccool,not%20force%20them%20to%20drink

Just to highlight the specific advice for suspected heat stroke:

Additionally, the RVC advises “cool first, transport second” as the immediate first aid response for dogs which do develop heatstroke. Owners worried their dog has overheated should:

  • Take their dog somewhere cool, ideally a well-ventilated area (or use a fan)
  • Offer them small sips of water (do not force them to drink)
  • Pour water of any temperature that is cooler than the dog over them (avoiding the head) and combine with air movement from a breeze, fan, or air conditioning.
  • Once these steps have been started, call the vets who will be able to advise further. Even if the pet seems to be okay, it’s important to have them checked (unless told otherwise), as the more serious signs of heatstroke may not be immediately apparent.

It really is vital that dogs are cooled asap, though it should be noted if your car has AC this may the coolest place available for most people in the UK - so soak the dog whilst someone gets the AC going in the car, then get in the car and to the vets asap.

And yes, fans on their own are not a lot of use, but fans + wet dog directly in front of the fan is a good combo.

New research from the RVC suggests human heat-health alerts could help prevent heatstroke in dogs

https://www.rvc.ac.uk/research/research-centres-and-facilities/veterinary-epidemiology-economics-and-public-health/news/new-research-from-the-rvc-suggests-human-heat-health-alerts-could-help-prevent-heatstroke-in-dogs?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAAR3UwuUbYaJvsq4h3Eirsp_-ZYl_ED-7argcMHntnygIZ1AMHXaudbM5vzI_aem_PpZLGHY-WCn1HHAiyrf3qA#:~:text=Additionally%2C%20the%20RVC%20advises%20%E2%80%9Ccool,not%20force%20them%20to%20drink

Feelingleftoutoften · 23/06/2024 23:07

Also frozen yoghurt with blueberries for a treat - make ice cubes of them to lick they help our dog who is a pug

QuestionableMouse · 23/06/2024 22:54

thequeenoftarts · 23/06/2024 22:43

Fans are your friend here. I have them in my bedroom, kitchen and sitting room for my dog

Fans don't actually cool the air - if the air is hot all they'll do is push hot air around.

@asthmashmasthma have you considered a proper hepa air purifier for your house? You could open a window in one room and run it in there which would let some fresh air in and hopefully give you some air circulation.

Sorrentino · 23/06/2024 22:52

Dogs don’t have the ability to sweat so panting is one of their only ways to cool down. Wet them down frequently and until they stop panting and make sure you give them plenty of fresh water. Put ice cubes in the water to help cool them. They can get heat stroke and get dehydrated very quickly. As others have said if they’re vomiting it’s a medical emergency.

Butterflyfern · 23/06/2024 22:47

asthmashmasthma · 23/06/2024 21:10

@Tulipvase my thermostat is currently showing 29.5. We have excessive insulation (from when we moved in) which means it's great in the winter as we barely ever use our heating but in the summer it's an actual nightmare!

Slightly off topic, but that's not how insulation works. If you do have lots of insulation, then it will also help keep the house cool, provided you prevent the heat getting in in the first place. Things like keeping curtains closed on windows where the sun is shining in (or even better, get blinds that reflect the heat back) and keeping windows closed during the day. Window awnings are also effective

thequeenoftarts · 23/06/2024 22:43

Fans are your friend here. I have them in my bedroom, kitchen and sitting room for my dog

sl0th · 23/06/2024 22:40

Cool mat and a fan with a frozen 2 litre bottle of water in front really helps to keep mine cool.

Tel12 · 23/06/2024 22:37

You can also get cooling coats for dogs.

MrsLeonFarrell · 23/06/2024 22:35

I don't know anything about dogs but in extreme heat I used to freeze a bottle of water for my rabbit to lie next to. Would that help?

Sextonssinglemalt · 23/06/2024 22:32

Our breeder recommended a wet towel on the floor for the dog to lie on as a way to cool them down quickly. Obviously you need a hard floor not carpet. Hope he feels more comfortable soon

WiddlinDiddlin · 23/06/2024 22:25

There has over the last few years been some really dangerous misinformation flying around social media, to the effect that putting cool water/cold water/standing the dog in cold water/giving them ice is dangerous.

It isn't. If they need to cool down fast, they need to cool down fast. Standing a dog in cold water and putting wet towels on them particularly on their belly/between thighs is a good way of doing that.

For heavy coated dogs make sure the water goes all the way through to the skin, it is doing no good at all if its sat over an insulating layer of fur/trapped air.

Its also safe for dogs to have ice in their water, frozen food dispensing toys, to be sprayed with the hose and play in paddling pools.

The thing to watch out for is water intoxication, which can happen if dogs excessively drink water or consume ice - those dogs you see snapping at the hose and consuming huge quantities of water for example... or dogs given big frozen blocks who crunch through and eat it really quickly rather than licking it.

Water intoxication is NOT a consideration if you think your dog has heat stroke and is already unwell. Get them wet, get them cooling, get them to a vet. Soaked through and in the car in the AC or in front of the blowers and straight to a vet, don't muck about.

chattyness · 23/06/2024 22:23

chattyness · 23/06/2024 20:56

The wet towel is a great idea and if you can afford to get one for the future it a washable cool may be the best for your pup , we've got a cool soft sleep brand one, there's no gel inside them and the material is ice cold to touch, my dog loves it

Sorry that was meant to say cool mat

LoveIsleOfWight · 23/06/2024 22:11

As you have mentioned up thread an air con unit if you can is absolutely the best way forward

We got one years ago as our elderly gsd was struggaling in the heat
Hes no longer with us but our current dog loves it

I'm asthmatic and suffer with terrible heyfever and the filter helps remove some of the pollen as well so that's a great bonus

Hope hes doing better as it cools down

MoonshineSon · 23/06/2024 21:44

We hose ours down in the heat.

Ophy83 · 23/06/2024 21:41

Cool their paws down by dipping in water, and a fan combined with spraying a water mist may help until the air con arrives. A walk now it has cooled down outside would be good. Don't walk in the heat of the day, but if there's somewhere nearby you could take them for a swim - my dog's favourite thing in the world is swimming

Lazydomestic · 23/06/2024 21:35

Is he drinking enough ? Encourage mine in the heat by sticking in the sink & running the tap to drink from.
If you can make a DIY pool in garden (washing up bowl etc) & chuck a couple of balls / toys in
Carrot baton ice lollies is a cheap healthy one as well ot make ice cream with mashed banana & peanut butter

StarDolphins · 23/06/2024 21:32

Put him in the garden where it will be cooler than in the house?

Createausername1970 · 23/06/2024 21:28

How puggy is the dog? If he is very flat faced it may be an ongoing problem.

We have a Frenchie, but she is not very flat faced, she has a decent snout and nostrils, so can breathe quite well, but we are still vigilant in hot weather.

She has a cool mat, but prefers to lie on the laminate flooring.

We also keep our bedroom curtains closed on very hot days to keep the sun out of the room, it helps to keep the temperature in our bedroom down and she often sleeps in there as it's cooler. We have a fan in there too and if I spot her in there I turn the fan on.

If she is up and about I will often drop a treat into her water bowl. She ends up drinking a lot of water trying to get the treat.

Never walk a flat face in the middle of the day in hot weather. I try to be out and back by 8.00 a.m. or going out around 8 p.m. and if I think it's still too hot on those really uncomfortable days, then she doesn't get a walk that day.

I haven't done this myself, but you could try laying a damp teatowel over him to bring his temperature down.

But if in any doubt - call the vet. Flat faces can go past the point of no return quite quickly.

Tulipvase · 23/06/2024 21:16

Wow. We are also in a terrace but it’s Victorian. Ours is 21.7 currently. However our bedrooms in the loft are a different story so I feel your pain.

I hope your dog gets comfortable soon.

ToxicChristmas · 23/06/2024 21:13

Sounds like air-conditioning is going to be essential for all of you, not just the dog.

asthmashmasthma · 23/06/2024 21:11

@Tulipvase we are a mid terrace 2 bedroom new build so that might explain it

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asthmashmasthma · 23/06/2024 21:10

@Tulipvase my thermostat is currently showing 29.5. We have excessive insulation (from when we moved in) which means it's great in the winter as we barely ever use our heating but in the summer it's an actual nightmare!

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Tulipvase · 23/06/2024 21:06

Surely your house isn’t 30 degrees today? Are you sure there isn’t another issue with your dog?