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Previous owners of house keep coming round to "visit"

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sparklerain · 23/06/2024 20:02

Can someone tell me AIBU?

Some context is that we bought a house October 2023 it's in a small cul de sac off the Main Street there is 6 houses in the cul de sac and we are right at the bottom (or top) with the other houses forming round us (does that make sense)?

The neighbours have mainly spoke bar 1 house who snubs us since we've moved in (we don't know why) since the nice weather has come in they host BBQs every weekend and the previous owners of our house are around every time - they don't host them in their back garden though, they are sat out on the road right infront of our front window and we never get an invite. We've quite often seen the snubby house and previous owners of ours talking and pointing at out front garden etc as we have changed some of it and removed some old bushes. They sit so far out into the cul de sac we couldn't actually reverse off our driveway if we needed to be out.

Is there anything I can do or do I just have to accept it? I don't want to cause anymore of an atmosphere but I do think maybe speaking to one of the neighbours who is more polite about it might help? We feel intimidated in our home as we feel constantly watched by the ex owners. They're out playing music laughing shouting etc and don't seem to have a care in the world. I should also add they've large back gardens too so don't understand why they sit on the tarmac at the front as they've not grass etc out there

We don't have an annoying barking dog or loads of guests round constantly for them to be annoyed at us it's definitely more a case of "you've bought our friends house how dare you" when it was for sale we didn't force them out so we could buy it 🤣

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Weezypopsy · 16/10/2024 19:24

Op, how did the summer go? Were you ever invited to a bbq?

ineverknowwhatusernametouse · 06/07/2024 12:26

sparklerain · 23/06/2024 20:17

My husband and I said to each other had they of said when they'd organised it we could've took food over and joined, they've got the bbq just at the end of their drive but everyone is sat round in a circle on the road outside our window.

We had wedding venues as us if we were travellers when we were looking at them so nothing surprises me when it comes to where I'm from and living in England now 🤣

Ha, I’m from Northern Ireland, living in England 11years now, and my gosh, everyone thought I was a traveller!! Constantly getting followed around shops, rude customer service. I’m like wtf is going on. Until someone told me bluntly, everyone thinks you’re a gypsy. 🤣🤣 my granda actually was. But anyway, I ended up working in Tesco and boots, and most of the town got used to seeing me around and hearing my accent. But still makes me laugh when I think back how openly rude people were. I think my accent has mellowed now. But I had the same issue when looking for wedding venues.

TheFunPanda · 30/06/2024 11:32

I see from your plan that the house next to you is empty. When that house is occupied, that may change things as the bbq gatherings will also be blocking access to that property.

Pherian · 30/06/2024 02:45

My partner is a Fire Fighter. This is not only wasting their time, but also detracting from other more important calls. If it’s a community station -m which is retained staffed, you’re pulling people away from their day jobs and families. It’s a stupid nuisance call and completely ridiculous.

Stop giving shit advice.

fairydust11 · 29/06/2024 23:22

Sorry op but this sounds horrendous. I have lived twice lived on cul de sacs, I hated it both times.
I think it takes a certain type of person to enjoy living in a cul de sac - especially the gold fish bowl type where every house is facing each other. Unfortunately I don’t think there’s much you can do about it apart from move! Which for me personally I would be seriously considering, life is too short to be feeling intimidated and unwelcome in your own home.
Also I know you say the other neighbours are friendly, but if they joining in every single time with the snubby neighbours & excluding one family, I personally wouldn’t say they were that friendly at all.

Rcgc · 29/06/2024 23:04

It appears to me that it’s something they have always done. Out the front because of children (maybe now grown) so easy access to their own houses. Old habits die hard. The old owners are invited as would have always been there before. You haven’t been included as you are not part of the original clique and the old owners may find it awkward. As for the snubbyness there will probably be some random difference, they have decided to take a dislike to. Or some ridiculous social slight you know nothing of that they have judged you for.

Coco1379 · 29/06/2024 21:21

justasking111 · 29/06/2024 20:12

Not a road but a cul de sac.

It’s still regarded as the public highway. The laws aren’t different in a cul-de-sac. Gov.uk Permission to place tables and chairs on the pavement
Get a licence to place furniture on the pavement in England and Wales - how to apply, restrictions, fines, penalties

Irelandnaemore · 29/06/2024 20:30

Water sprinkler and a couple of your friends round with cars parked on the road outside then get the mower out and start cutting the grass a leav blower and maybe start washing the car. Nice pop up gazebo on the front lawn if your worried about em sticky beaking in your windows. People can be weird I moved over to England after living in Ireland for 12 years. And jeez there's feck all as queer as folk. The film that goes on your windows can stop people seeing in. Make a nice little sign for your front garden just a small one with for sale written on (in large letters)then underneath no it's not and your reading this so your trespassing now feck off. If all else fails you can complain to council about smoke tell them they have barbeques and you can't open your windows

justasking111 · 29/06/2024 20:12

Coco1379 · 29/06/2024 19:42

Do they know they need permission to host parties on public roads? The public have a legal right to pass along a public highway, not to occupy it. Perhaps a polite request as to whether they have a permit will make them think again, otherwise contact your local council and report the ‘nuisance’. Doesn’t matter whether you come from Timbuktu you don’t have to put up with this anti-social behaviour

Not a road but a cul de sac.

Coco1379 · 29/06/2024 19:42

Do they know they need permission to host parties on public roads? The public have a legal right to pass along a public highway, not to occupy it. Perhaps a polite request as to whether they have a permit will make them think again, otherwise contact your local council and report the ‘nuisance’. Doesn’t matter whether you come from Timbuktu you don’t have to put up with this anti-social behaviour

BlueInk1234 · 29/06/2024 19:32

sparklerain · 23/06/2024 20:56

Don't think it's open to all as it was definitely pre organised as they all brought bowls of salad, meat, cakes etc round at around 4pm on a Sunday so we couldn't have quickly nipped to a shop to get some stuff to join. Had they of mentioned they were doing it I'd have definitely gone out and took some food and drink with me too

Since setting up no one has knocked or waved over at us through the window for us to join either so doesn't feel like it's open invitation

Maybe at the next one as there will be another likely I'll go out and just gate crash it whether they like it or not 🤣

Sorry, a bit late to the game but maybe the old neighbours are worried/jealous that now they've moved away, your family will "take their place" (so to speak) in the neighbourhood friendship group? I would also check if there is a road Whatsapp group with your neighbours that you're not a part of yet - I lived on my street for 6 years before I realised there was a huge Whatsapp group where people arranged social events that I knew nothing of, and they were open to all.

echt · 26/06/2024 06:28

GoldEagle · 25/06/2024 12:38

When your friends visit, do you entertain them by having a barbecue in the middle of the road?

This lot do and it's bloody awkwardly placed but hard to see as making a point. Using the drive while they're out there might flush out hidden motives.
However, there's no evidence it's about the OP's being Irish, other than the OP thinking it might be.

xxSideshowAuntSallyxx · 26/06/2024 05:47

Previous owner of my flat used to come round to pick up post because they're children went to the school down the road and they were friends with one of the other flats. They're still getting post (and bailiffs) turn up. Bizarrely I'm getting credit card statements for a new credit card but not the actual card.

I started ignoring their messages, especially the one accusing me of losing their post. Maybe they should have told people their new address.🤷‍♀️

They have no friends left in the block so have no reason to come round like they did a few years ago and I just chuck the post in the bin or send back.

pineapplesundae · 26/06/2024 04:14

Are the neighbors perhaps wondering why you don’t just come out and say hello? Grab a six pack and invite yourself. If you get the cold shoulder, then you know where you stand.

scrapsontheside · 25/06/2024 18:22

*get go

scrapsontheside · 25/06/2024 18:11

I hate matey neighbours, or overly involved neighbours if I'm honest. Ours are nice , we keep an eye out for each other but are not in each others gardens having BBQs (thankfully!) my brother and his wife, their neighbours , pop in (without knocking) to their house, and from the day they moved on the guy a couple of houses up told them he sorts everyone's bin on bin day! I would have told him to go away from the get lost.

Thriftnugget · 25/06/2024 17:04

Their behaviour regarding the BBQs does sound a bit weird, however more broadly it seems like they have formed a clique and it might take a good while before they consider you have earned your neighbourhood stripes. As others have said it’s kind of understandable that the previous house owners are returning to socialise. I think the thing to do is smile and say hi every time you get an opportunity, don’t assume you are going to want to get involved but just act like any friendly person would even if you think they have snubbed you. They probably haven’t, they just haven’t reached a level of familiarity that would lead to socialising together.
I hope in a year or two you are friendly enough with some of them to remember the early strain as a distant memory. Good luck with settling in.

GoldEagle · 25/06/2024 12:38

TheCheeseThief · 23/06/2024 20:29

They are visiting their friends, hardly going up to your windows and staring through. YABU.

When your friends visit, do you entertain them by having a barbecue in the middle of the road?

GoldEagle · 25/06/2024 12:35

Get the hosepipe out to water the front garden and your driveway, park your car(s) on the road and wash those as well.

Heyhoitsme · 25/06/2024 10:45

Similar situation when we moved here. We had teenagers constantly ringing the doorbell to call for the previous families boys. I told them over and over that the boys no longer lived here. Also the previous owner thought it was acceptable to call every Friday night to collect his mail. He would keep me talking while commenting on everyone in the street. After months he asked if we'd found his laptop! As if we'd not say if we had. Eventually I told him I'd forward his mail. I did this for years. I think he just couldn't leave the street.

OnionPond · 25/06/2024 00:37

Teenagehorrorbag · 24/06/2024 23:09

Sorry to hear this. Where we are (South West) there is certainly a nervousness on hearing an Irish accent as we have a lot of gypsy sites locally, and - sorry - but they do cause enormous amounts of trouble and resentment. So that could be affecting them?

I'd do as you say and gatecrash - get to know them and let them get to know you. Forcibly....😁! If after that they are still nobs then leave them to their own devices (and drive the car in and out as much as you feel appropriate.....).

It's a shame as good neighbours are a great thing - but you get what you get.

The elderly couple we bought from were lovely - invited us to local events to meet people even before they left. They then popped round from time to time to see what we were doing to the place (he always refused tea or coffee but if you offered red wine then suddenly it was a yes please......😂). We negotiated the council tax band down a level and the council sent him a cheque - he was really chuffed and brought us round a crate of wine to say thank you!

Sadly he died a few years later. One day some strangers knocked at the door and asked if they could sprinkle their Dad's ashes under the trees at the back of the garden, as he loved it here. Slightly unexpected, but we said of course.

It's such a shame when people can't be civil for no obvious reason. It's also a shame you were unlucky enough to buy from such miserable gits! Ignore - and enjoy your lovely new home.

Are you saying that where you’re from, people can’t tell the difference between an Irish person, a Traveller and a Gypsy?

justasking111 · 25/06/2024 00:23

tillytoodles1 · 24/06/2024 21:03

You obviously have nicer neighbours.

We're in a tourism area which the family work in so meet many nationalities. We have Irish and Liverpudlian friends as well. Neighbours are mostly Welsh.

Teenagehorrorbag · 24/06/2024 23:09

Sorry to hear this. Where we are (South West) there is certainly a nervousness on hearing an Irish accent as we have a lot of gypsy sites locally, and - sorry - but they do cause enormous amounts of trouble and resentment. So that could be affecting them?

I'd do as you say and gatecrash - get to know them and let them get to know you. Forcibly....😁! If after that they are still nobs then leave them to their own devices (and drive the car in and out as much as you feel appropriate.....).

It's a shame as good neighbours are a great thing - but you get what you get.

The elderly couple we bought from were lovely - invited us to local events to meet people even before they left. They then popped round from time to time to see what we were doing to the place (he always refused tea or coffee but if you offered red wine then suddenly it was a yes please......😂). We negotiated the council tax band down a level and the council sent him a cheque - he was really chuffed and brought us round a crate of wine to say thank you!

Sadly he died a few years later. One day some strangers knocked at the door and asked if they could sprinkle their Dad's ashes under the trees at the back of the garden, as he loved it here. Slightly unexpected, but we said of course.

It's such a shame when people can't be civil for no obvious reason. It's also a shame you were unlucky enough to buy from such miserable gits! Ignore - and enjoy your lovely new home.

Yougotwhatstuckwhere · 24/06/2024 22:41

Sadly I have experienced negative shite in Wales and Scotland for my English accent.
I hope your neighbours aren't being judgemental knobs based on an accent 🙄
I would definitely need to take the car out though.......
Make sure the hen party is fantabulous, raucous (but only noisy until 11pm so they can't complain) 😁

Olderbutt · 24/06/2024 22:04

So sorry that you've encountered antipathy about your ethnicity. It's horrid but may not be the reason for this happening. With anyone who judges you before getting to know you, it says more negative things about them than you.
I've been on the receiving end in Scotland sadly, as soon as the person heard my well spoken English accent, their attitude was horrendous. Ironically I'm of Irish descent.

Just carry on being your cheery self and give the snubby neighbours a wave 👋. They can either get over it or not but don't let it affect you or potentially relationships with nicer neighbours.

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