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Is diet choice a reason to switch residency?

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SwitchTheResidenceYesorNo · 23/06/2024 14:22

Because I’m not sure it is.

Situation:

DD is almost 10, school year 5.

Until she was 8 she lived with me (her mum) then she moved in with ExH and Ex-PIL. It’s a long story as to why, but basically at the time it was decided it was in DDs interests to switch.

I have her for 2 overnights every week (Tuesday and Wednesday), have her 1 night every week for tea (Thursday) and have her for 1 full weekend day every week (usually Saturday) – I could have weekend contact overnight but I like seeing her every weekend so this works better than EOWend. This set up means I never go more than 48 hours without seeing her. I also have indirect contact with her on the days she doesn’t see me. On paper however I am down as 104 nights per year and pay above CMS recommended amount due to this. I still do all appointments (DD has SN and a disability often ExH doesn’t come to appointments), all school related things, and I cover all sickness from school/holiday club as my work is far more flexible than ExHs.

When she lived with me she was ExH EOWend for 3 nights (Thursday to Sunday) and 1 night every week for tea.

DD keeps asking to move back in with me due to ExHs food choices but I’m not sure that’s a good enough reason.

I am vegetarian purely because I don’t really enjoy eating meat. I am happy to prepare and cook it for DD but she never wants it, she always wants what I have. I also have made it clear that I am fine with DD choosing the meat options at school for dinner and when we go to restaurants/to family she very rarely does.

ExH and his family are meat eaters so when with them she eats meat. But DD is starting to refuse to eat with them, asking for a none meat option which ExHs family won’t provide as there’s a lot of them that live there so it’s easier to have 1 meal for everyone (at last count there were 4 adults + DD in the house fulltime and then Ex-SILs children stay over with or without Ex-SIL/Ex-BIL 2-3 times a week so often there’s 10 of them there). DD keeps asking to live with me but switch to seeing ExH in the pattern we have now, which ExH isn’t keen on. He keeps saying I should force DD to eat what she's given with me and that I should include meat when I'm cooking for her - I offer DD a choice, she can have what I'm having (vegetarian such as lentil bolognaise) or I can cook her a meat version (beef bolognaise for example) and she always wants what I have.

I don’t feel diet choice is a good enough to go to court over residency, but I also want to listen to DD when she says she only wants to eat meat occasionally. When she lived with me I made her the meat version of whatever I was having until she started asking to try/have what I had and always reminded her she could ask for meat at any time and i'd buy it and cook it for her.

Would you do it? Or is it not a good enough reason? I know it could go against me in court and I could be seen as going against ExHs views, which is not my intention at all, I have no issue with meat and most of my friends haven’t even realised I’m vegetarian as I never mention it.

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SonicTheHodgeheg · 23/06/2024 14:47

In a couple of years, a judge would allow dd to choose but until then I would go for 50/50. It sounds like he is a good dad and it’s understandable that meals are catered to the whole family rather than individuals.

Dd isn’t unreasonable to prefer your cooking and ex isnt unreasonable to give dd what the rest of the family are eating.

I would have thought that overcrowding would be a bigger potential issue tbh unless the house is very big. I live with my 3 teens/adult kids and apart from the odd overnight guest who shares with my child for the night, it takes space to live with others.

SwitchTheResidenceYesorNo · 23/06/2024 14:46

MotherofChaosandDestruction · 23/06/2024 14:40

OP what were the reasons it was in her best interests? I think this will guide my thoughts.

Having said this, if you are now able to provide her with a stable home then ask for 50/50 and go from there.

@MotherofChaosandDestruction I was diagnosed with a lifelong (but not life altering) condition on top of DD recieving her diagnosis and I had a bit of a breakdown, I wasn't and never have been a danger to her, I was allowed to see her everyday while SS where involved and they even prioritised contact with me over any meetings they had with me or DD.

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SwitchTheResidenceYesorNo · 23/06/2024 14:44

WriterOfWrongs · 23/06/2024 14:37

@SwitchTheResidenceYesorNo Do Social Services still have contact? If so, could you ask them what they advise?

@WriterOfWrongs No no longer involved with SS

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TarantinoIsAMisogynist · 23/06/2024 14:42

JollyGreenSnake · 23/06/2024 14:36

Force DD to eat what she's given?

I'd expect she wants to change living arrangements because of that type of attitude, +/- the crowding, much more so than Bolognese as meat vs lentil

Totally agree. His attitude speaks volumes, and it won't just be about food.

TarantinoIsAMisogynist · 23/06/2024 14:41

So you're a vegetarian, and your DD appears to prefer vegetarian food, but your Ex is telling you that you should be preparing meat for her and forcing her to eat it?

He sounds very controlling tbh. And bang out of order. He has no right to dictate what she eats in your home.

I also think a 10 year old is old enough to be given a choice if they want to eat a vegetarian diet. Refusing to allow her with the choice will ultimately push her away from him.

MotherofChaosandDestruction · 23/06/2024 14:40

SwitchTheResidenceYesorNo · 23/06/2024 14:31

@NuffSaidSam Unfortunately at the time she moved in it was what was best for her (decided by Social Services) but now we're two years out of that it might not be. I would love to have her 50/50 or even full time again but not sure ExH would give up residency so easily.

OP what were the reasons it was in her best interests? I think this will guide my thoughts.

Having said this, if you are now able to provide her with a stable home then ask for 50/50 and go from there.

Menopaused · 23/06/2024 14:39

She wants to live with you and is using the food as an in. Listen to her.

WriterOfWrongs · 23/06/2024 14:37

@SwitchTheResidenceYesorNo Do Social Services still have contact? If so, could you ask them what they advise?

JollyGreenSnake · 23/06/2024 14:36

Force DD to eat what she's given?

I'd expect she wants to change living arrangements because of that type of attitude, +/- the crowding, much more so than Bolognese as meat vs lentil

Glenthebattleostrich · 23/06/2024 14:35

I'd start with 50/50. She is asking to spend more time with you, the meat is an excuse I think.

SwitchTheResidenceYesorNo · 23/06/2024 14:31

NuffSaidSam · 23/06/2024 14:29

I'd completely ignore the food issue and just listen to what she wants i.e. to live with you and go from there. I very much doubt it's really just about the Bolognese for her. More likely to be about the overcrowding I would have thought!

@NuffSaidSam Unfortunately at the time she moved in it was what was best for her (decided by Social Services) but now we're two years out of that it might not be. I would love to have her 50/50 or even full time again but not sure ExH would give up residency so easily.

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SwitchTheResidenceYesorNo · 23/06/2024 14:29

mitogoshi · 23/06/2024 14:28

At nearly 10 her opinion should be listened to but only to a point, you need to consider the practical implications as she still needs wrap around care and check to see what other reasons could be behind this.

Can you sit down with your ex and discuss sensibly what she has said and decide together a way forward? Or is your relationship not cordial enough? in which case one idea is to use mediation

@mitogoshi Me and ExH get on fine mostly and can talk about DD, but when I bring up this he says that DD should be made to eat meat and she's not old enough to decide herself what to have.

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NuffSaidSam · 23/06/2024 14:29

I'd completely ignore the food issue and just listen to what she wants i.e. to live with you and go from there. I very much doubt it's really just about the Bolognese for her. More likely to be about the overcrowding I would have thought!

mitogoshi · 23/06/2024 14:28

At nearly 10 her opinion should be listened to but only to a point, you need to consider the practical implications as she still needs wrap around care and check to see what other reasons could be behind this.

Can you sit down with your ex and discuss sensibly what she has said and decide together a way forward? Or is your relationship not cordial enough? in which case one idea is to use mediation

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