To be shocked at the level of obesity of British children?

No, I think it was me, I got confused!

Im remembering some incidents now, the ginger stole a meatball and some spaghetti once and another time a whole sausage, you couldnt get it back off him.

My previous cat, who was the only one who was never overweight used to love crisps, loved them, any flavour.

My tabby who was overweight loved cake, had to watch yourself if you were sat on the sofa with a plate of cake (none of that fo rme now as I cant eat it).

Current cat you have to be careful if eating cheese, chicken or tuna, she'll be straight in there. She is not allowed on the table or worktops but she doesnt seem to understand this!

Noticed more obesity in children in the Midlands and northern cities.
Just an observation.

They are cheaper than supermarkets here. But no they're not the same (here anyway.) The fruit is ripe and delicious. In a way that never seems to happen to the supermarket fruit. I don't know what the difference is but it's like the supermarket fruit is made not to spoil so it never really ripens.

Fat kids with fat parents.

You can get drugs like Orlistat. Bariatric surgery. Referrals to healthy eating/healthy living programmes.

Sorry- my mistake

Greengrocers source from different places and will insist on better quality. The supermarkets value uniformity.

best way to get fruit is straight from the farm of course! I’m hoping it’s a good year for cherries!!

I've obviously just had cats that were/are good at it. I grew up with dogs and they'd just wolf down anything you fed them. You had to carefully measure their food. I always just put a rough amount of food out for my cats and they might run in when they hear and then have a couple of mouthfuls of food and a lap of their water but then sit back and start leisurely cleaning themselves! They never seem particularly bothered about food. Funnily enough the only thing our cat seems to have a thing for is Quorn! Which is odd with cats needing meat! I bought some a while back and the cat was going crazy!! Wonder what he was responding to in it??

Well I’ll give myself as an example.

I have two children.

One is bang on average for the WHO centiles and always has been. You can see her ribs. She dances, swims, plays rugby. If you saw her you’d doubtless think I was doing a grand job.

One was really small/a bit underweight as a baby and up to being about 18 months but has subsequently got very overweight. We were concerned back at start of Covid and we were very mindful of it though lockdowns. We got her back to being a fairly sensible size though still officially overweight. Since all the lockdowns ended in 2021 she’s just got bigger and bigger. It’s really tough to know what to do for best about it. We are super careful what we do meals wise but she’ll do things like finish her sisters food/swap her veg for sisters pasta or potatoes at home and do similar with friends at school. She will go and help herself to stuff if it’s not locked away/hidden. If you saw her you’d doubtless think I was a shit parent.

I can’t be both so either you are rights and I’m abusive but happen to have one child with magic skinny genes OR it’s a bit more complicated than that and you are being pretty obnoxious. We can agree to differ on which 🤷🏼‍♀️

Greengrocers are expensive in my area. Plus, I might be naive but arent the goods in greengrocers the same as in the supermarket?

Cherries imported from Morocco are the same in the supermarket or in the greengrocer surely? Same with watermelon, or chillis, or cucumbers?

In Spain and Italy the cucumbers have virtually no water in them, same with the tomatoes, really fleshy, you cant get that here.

Yes agreed but you pay!!

The greengrocers here are seasonal. And the flavour is so good. I'd forgotten it could be so good after so many years of supermarket fruit!

Oh!! How strange!

Mine always just eat what they need.

That reminds me of Ken Bruce, on the radio, he used to joke that a plate of chips was a Scottish salad!

A friend of mine used to have a ginger cat (I think gingers are worst for this) who would try to steal food off your plate, quite aggressively. I had a tabby who was similar butnot quite as bad. You had to watch your back

Cats are just like any animal, some are ok at self regulation but others not.

I'm like that at all these greengrocers that have sprung up! Because the fruit is so amazing compared to supermarkets I do get quite excited!! 😆

Her cat food!!

She knows where its kept too.

Ive had other overweight cats too. This is my fault and wont be happening again, lots of things have opened my eyes. I too used to think that if you saw or could feel ribs and spine on a cat or dog they were neglected but I know better now.

Tbf fruit is often picked a bit too early and you don’t get the delicious flavours I remember - summer English strawberries are amazing but the imported ones in winter are quite tasteless. I only get really good cherries and peaches/nectarines in markets in France (other countries are available). We need to be better at eating seasonally and taking pleasure in that because that’s when you get the flavour hits

I've never had a cat like that. They always seem brilliant at self regulation. What does your OH give the cat?

This thread keeps reminding me of sd's partner - so proud of the tea he had made himself he posted a photo on Facebook titled
Salad
It was half a tomato, 2 boiled eggs and 4 Gregg's sausages rolls!

From what I see with my multinational employer it is different in France. Unions there are much more effective and there is less of a culture of presenteeism, which leads to a lot of the stress and time pressure felt in the U.K. the US is terrible for it and seem to have same issues. There will be lots of reasons but I’d agree this is one.

The vast vast amount of overweight people didnt get that way by eating because they were actually hungry!

Its because we like the sensation of the eating.

Smaller portions are not restrictive eating by the way. Its just eating what you should.

Yes there are a lot of overweight British children, more than ever and it is concerning. But I suspect it is this governments fault for causing so many people to be unable to buy healthy food. They can't be gone soon enough.

Good point! I have a very healthy friend who delights in finding a greengrocer , and she acts like a peach or some cherries is like a big bit of cake (as in she is excited to get one) I need to be more like her!