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To think this house IS big enough

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Coconutsandpalmtree · 23/06/2024 11:28

For 3 kids and wfh (needing an office)

im not sure it is, but surely it should be and I’m missing a trick as to how we can make it work, DH and I have decided we’d like another child.

it’s a new house (6yrs now) so I took a pic of the floor plan from the developers. It’s pretty generic but it’s tight on space.

the front double is our bedroom, built in wardrobe and the space by the ensuite is a chest of drawers that we really need.

the smaller back ‘double’ (on floor plan) is more a single tbh, but that’s my eldests room. Front single youngest. Other double is a guest room/ office.

we really need an office for wfh. There’s no place for stud walls due to the windows.

we do have a garage though and a classic new build garden aka small.

what do you think? Can another kid fit here?

yabu- no way
yanbu- yes with some outside the box thinking that I’ll share :)

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buttnut · 23/06/2024 14:53

Sensitive2024 · 23/06/2024 14:48

@buttnut is that the lady that built a bed to fold into her wall. She does great

Yes that’s the one. She has so much energy!

Sozzels · 23/06/2024 14:49

buttnut · 23/06/2024 14:46

I follow a lady on TikTok (she does lots of cleaning and organising sort of videos) and she has 6 children in a small two-bedroom council house 😳 and it does look cramped (although they seem to manage). The OPs house is absolutely fine for a family with 3 kids.

Understand but this isn’t ideal for anyone is it. She could have stopped at one, two or three children. Definitely by 6. Personal space is so so important.

Sensitive2024 · 23/06/2024 14:48

buttnut · 23/06/2024 14:46

I follow a lady on TikTok (she does lots of cleaning and organising sort of videos) and she has 6 children in a small two-bedroom council house 😳 and it does look cramped (although they seem to manage). The OPs house is absolutely fine for a family with 3 kids.

@buttnut is that the lady that built a bed to fold into her wall. She does great

buttnut · 23/06/2024 14:46

I follow a lady on TikTok (she does lots of cleaning and organising sort of videos) and she has 6 children in a small two-bedroom council house 😳 and it does look cramped (although they seem to manage). The OPs house is absolutely fine for a family with 3 kids.

Sensitive2024 · 23/06/2024 14:42

sedilla · 23/06/2024 14:37

Fair enough, and sorry you had those experiences. Personally, all else being equal, I do disagree that having your own room for a short period as a child makes it unfair for you to share later on. Obviously this does depend on whether you broadly get on with who you’re made to share with and any number of other things, but in most cases I think it’s absolutely fine.

Yeah i agree it's definitely fine to share. It's the take away bit for a guest room that will mainly stay empty that I think it a bit unfair.

Sozzels · 23/06/2024 14:41

Purplecatshopaholic · 23/06/2024 14:40

Technically yes of course you could all squeeze in. Many people have more kids with less space, and you are already getting the we-had-six-kids-in-a -two-bed-flat-and-survived posts. I personally think it’s too small. Sorry. Children need their own space as they grow up and having another one which would mean, eg two sharing a room, is selfish - just my opinion.

I agree. It’s one thing if you have twins and they need to share etc but choosing that is different. Also - you never know with a third child, it could twins! Or they might have needs meaning they need their own space, literally anything

ghostyslovesheets · 23/06/2024 14:41

rainbowunicorn · 23/06/2024 12:24

There are literally millions of families in this country who share a shower between 4 or more people. Our bathroom has one shower one toilet and one sink between 4 adults. We manage fine as do the millions of other people who have a set up like this. It is perfectly doable and has never caused us any problems.

Yup! 4 people here - one older adult -me and 2 20+ year olds and a teenager - all female- one bathroom - we manage fine.

I did move from a three bed to a 4 bed when they where younger because sharing just didn't work - they had their own rooms at their dads and hated sharing at mine - to the point of constant fighting - I looked at converting the en-suite to the family bathroom and the bathroom to a 4th bedroom but it wasn't doable so this was the compromise!

I'd look into converting the garage to a home office/guest room if I was you OP - seems the best option.

Purplecatshopaholic · 23/06/2024 14:40

Technically yes of course you could all squeeze in. Many people have more kids with less space, and you are already getting the we-had-six-kids-in-a -two-bed-flat-and-survived posts. I personally think it’s too small. Sorry. Children need their own space as they grow up and having another one which would mean, eg two sharing a room, is selfish - just my opinion.

Sozzels · 23/06/2024 14:38

The thing is, yes OP could make it work, but this is a hypothetical scenario. As it is, each of her kids has their own room, they have a much needed office. If they decide to have a third this will change - affecting them all in some way. No I wouldn’t do it. The ideal situation is always for kids to have their own room. A great upbringing is possible with kids sharing, of course, but why would you choose that?

sedilla · 23/06/2024 14:37

Sensitive2024 · 23/06/2024 14:34

I shared as a child it was 3 to a bedroom.

We have also Been homeless/in temporary accommodation and very over crowded. So lots of room sharing.

I'm just not sure its fair to take it way once they have had their own space. Especially for a guest room that's going to be empty most of the time.

Fair enough, and sorry you had those experiences. Personally, all else being equal, I do disagree that having your own room for a short period as a child makes it unfair for you to share later on. Obviously this does depend on whether you broadly get on with who you’re made to share with and any number of other things, but in most cases I think it’s absolutely fine.

Nosleepforthismum · 23/06/2024 14:35

Well lots of people have 3 kids in much smaller houses so of course it’s doable! It might not be particularly comfortable though as I think there will be a general feeling of everyone being on top of each other if you add a third in. I grew up as one of three in a house that looks similar in terms of size and layout but we played out on the estate a lot and rarely had friends over because there was literally nowhere for us to go.

Sensitive2024 · 23/06/2024 14:34

sedilla · 23/06/2024 14:23

Having been one of those children as the eldest of four, it really didn’t figure at all. And it’s not like the age difference between us is small, my sister is 5 years younger

I shared as a child it was 3 to a bedroom.

We have also Been homeless/in temporary accommodation and very over crowded. So lots of room sharing.

I'm just not sure its fair to take it way once they have had their own space. Especially for a guest room that's going to be empty most of the time.

BettyBardMacDonald · 23/06/2024 14:33

Garden pod.

I'd never delete a bathroom; surely that would devalue the house?

80smonster · 23/06/2024 14:32

rainbowunicorn · 23/06/2024 14:12

My god, you really are coming across as very unpleasant.

Personally I’d find it way more unpleasant to be convinced to buy a house that didn’t work for my family. It’s a very costly mistake that has financial and far reaching repercussions.

justasking111 · 23/06/2024 14:30

Coconutsandpalmtree · 23/06/2024 14:08

Mega pay rises, unlikely, but then no one really does. We’d move around. Both top end of middle management id say but in fruitful sectors (finance)

Well that's fine it's not your forever home so adjust cheaply. Keep saving and put your money into your next move or maybe two.

Iorderedyouapancake · 23/06/2024 14:29

Sorry just to add op- many garden offices don’t tell require planning permission so straightforward to just go ahead if you want to

Freefree · 23/06/2024 14:29

How the heck is that a 'small' house?
Jeez I didn't know how many people lived in mansions in the UK.
I grew up in a 2 bed terrace and survived just fine, in fact the best memories of my childhood are in that home rather than the bigger home we moved into later.
Also 400k is a small budget?! Wtf are you people on???

sedilla · 23/06/2024 14:28

Pricklyhogs · 23/06/2024 14:24

These responses are nuts. Op, my parents had six kids in a one bathroom three bedroom terrace house, and we all survived. Buy captain beds with storage/desks underneath for the kids and either convert part of the garage for an office or put in a garden pod. There is plenty of room in a four bedroom house for three kids you just need to maximise all space not just the floor space. Built in floor to ceiling storage is your friend here

My dad was also one of six (sharing a room with 3 of his siblings and a drum kit!). He thinks people from small families are “poorly adjusted”

Iorderedyouapancake · 23/06/2024 14:28

Op, seriously look into garden offices- you can get some pretty decent quality ones for not insane amounts of money. Our garden isn’t massive but we have one with a partition wall splitting it into 2 small rooms and it’s perfect for wfh. I think if you did this and then all the kids had their own rooms you have more than enough space.

Twoshoesnewshoes · 23/06/2024 14:26

Haven’t rtwt
OP the house looks great, loads of room. Definitely don’t put off a third on that account!
personally I’d convert the garage into two spaces or a divided space of an office and a ‘den’ where the kids can have friends when they’re older.
my friend has converted her garage recently, was about £17k

Coconutsandpalmtree · 23/06/2024 14:26

ThatsAFineLookingHighHorse · 23/06/2024 14:13

Bit rude.

People are answering your question, OP. You're wondering yourself if the house is too small to do everything you want and need it to do AND add another child into the mix. People are responding with their own thoughts, as they do on AIBU.
And many think YABU. Many don't.

IMO, you don't have a lot of space for 3 teenagers and working from home as your house currently stands. I say that as someone with 3 teenagers, who take up a lot of space and like to have their friends round, and you need to recognise that your 3 will eventually be teenagers. To make it work, you're going to have to do something extension-wise or garden shed wise, etc, and even then, you don't have a lot of space downstairs. It is something to think through.

Here’s the thing, I agree with you! For 3 it’s small

but I think there’s some decency missing in some of these answers. I’ve said long term we’ll likely move so this is a short med fix I’m talking about. But there’s a lot of comments saying how tiddly the garden is (no info I’ve provided to say this other than compared to older houses it’s small) and then the other
comments saying how small it is for 2 kids, and it’s a tiny house etc and I’ve got no budget, can’t afford it, made poor decisions. This is my home at the end of the day.

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Pricklyhogs · 23/06/2024 14:24

These responses are nuts. Op, my parents had six kids in a one bathroom three bedroom terrace house, and we all survived. Buy captain beds with storage/desks underneath for the kids and either convert part of the garage for an office or put in a garden pod. There is plenty of room in a four bedroom house for three kids you just need to maximise all space not just the floor space. Built in floor to ceiling storage is your friend here

sedilla · 23/06/2024 14:23

Sensitive2024 · 23/06/2024 14:20

If the children are used to having their own room . I think it would be unfair to take it away. Is an office AND a guest room really needed? Can't the guest room double as an office. Maybe you could get a good sofa bed or folding bed

Having been one of those children as the eldest of four, it really didn’t figure at all. And it’s not like the age difference between us is small, my sister is 5 years younger

Sensitive2024 · 23/06/2024 14:20

If the children are used to having their own room . I think it would be unfair to take it away. Is an office AND a guest room really needed? Can't the guest room double as an office. Maybe you could get a good sofa bed or folding bed

Coconutsandpalmtree · 23/06/2024 14:20

rainbowunicorn · 23/06/2024 14:09

Bloody hell, some if the responses on this thread. Some of you need to check yourselves. A 4 bed house with kitchen dinner, living room and several bathroom options is a lot more than many have. It feels like some people are just coming on to make the OP feel bad.

I agrée, thé comments about having a low budget and making poor decisions are quite nasty.

we already live here, we bought it when it was just dh and I. I think it’s another world saying 400k is a low budget too

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