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To resent that my future depends on whether a man deems me good enough

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Iwilldrawjapan · 23/06/2024 10:18

The main source of my mental health problems has been men.
I'm 33 years old and except for my very first boyfriend aged 18, who I left when I was 20, no guy has ever fallen madly in love with me.

I'm fully aware I don't need a man in my life to be happy but I'm only human and it's natural to want a connection with somebody. Not that it's attractive to admit that, mind. You're supposed to not be looking at all and absolutely love being single until someone unexpectedly falls into your lap, otherwise you're 'desperate'.

I'd be ok with it if more people chose to be single, however I hardly know anyone who's single, every bloody person I know is with someone, especially at this age, this is the worst age for me.

Men like me and find me attractive, they just don't want to date me seriously/don't want to marry me/just don't fall in love.

Everyone seems to have some guy become absolutely obsessed with them and just really want to marry them.
Guys mainly use me for an ego boost but I'm just not the one for them.

People sprout mindless fucking clichés at me all the time 'Oh it'll happen when you least expect it!' well here's the thing, I'm not 'expecting' it at all, and guess what, nobody's fallen into my lap.

'Just go online!' like it's that easy, it really isn't.
I'm attractive physically, I have stuff going for me, I travel, I am financially independent, I own property, I have hobbies, good family relationship, I have friends. In other areas of my life all is great.

I'm really not desperate, I'm sure someone will be along to tell me I'm coming across as desperate but I have turned down men too, I would not date just anyone.
My standards are not too high, either. If anything I'm very likely considered out of these men's leagues. They're just very ordinary, average men, but I liked them.

People I've dated have either not wanted a relationship after 2 months, or not wanted a bigger commitment after a few years.

Life isn't fair I guess, people will tell me to 'love myself first ' and all the usual crap. Having 10,000 hobbies is no replacement for a happy relationship. I'm sick of seeing the happy couple photos on Facebook, posing with their husband and holding the baby.

Maybe I will meet someone, but for 13 years I've had bad luck. I've never been anyone's 'one'.

I can't have a child alone, I don't have local family, I can't afford to be a single parent financially or otherwise, period.

Honestly, my mental health has been shot to pieces. Life still has meaning, but it's unfair that I'm deprived of what seems to come so easily to other people.

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Iwilldrawjapan · 23/06/2024 11:36

DoreenonTill8 · 23/06/2024 11:34

Agree with this. Are you purposely looking for guys in their 20s?

Not anymore, I'm 33 now and the last man I liked was 30. Before that, aged 29 and below then yes, all the men were in their 20s, never dated older and not sure it'd be any better.

Honestly going to look into fostering, however I only own a 1 bedroom flat sadly so they probably wouldn't accept me?

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Tagyoureit · 23/06/2024 11:36

Then calm down with the dating. There is nothing wrong with being single. Jesus, have a read of some of the other threads where partners and husbands are being massive dicks and you'll soon realise that you probably aren't missing out.

You don't want the clichés but they are said for a reason because they're true. I gave up on dating and was a single mother for years then the right guy came along.

ntmdino · 23/06/2024 11:35

Iwilldrawjapan · 23/06/2024 11:29

Tell me you're missing the point without telling me you're missing the point.
I do love and respect myself.
I'm not looking for a partner to fix me, I'm fed up with constant rejection.

Not arguing with you here, just saying...these relationships always fall apart in the first few months, yes? You opened the thread talking about your mental health problems, and mental health issues are big red flags for a lot of people (not just men...it comes up regularly on here as a great reason to ditch relationships years long, much less a couple of months).

Doesn't seem like missing the point to me at all. It's not about whether you love and respect yourself, it's about whether your mental health issues - which I obviously have no real understanding of - are becoming apparent enough during that "getting to know you" phase that your potential partners are walking away.

Iwilldrawjapan · 23/06/2024 11:35

Hateam · 23/06/2024 11:31

To be honest you sound like hard work.

Can I ask why I 'sound like hard work?
They were happy to sleep with me so did fancy me, just didn't get deeper feelings

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DoreenonTill8 · 23/06/2024 11:34

ntmdino · 23/06/2024 11:23

Maybe the problem is the guys you're choosing? Those all look like "I want to try something else" excuses, not actual genuine reasons.

Have you examined your selection criteria? I'm not suggesting that you lower your standards, but rather that you see if there's any common thread that results in you picking flakes.

For a start, if you're in your 30s and they're all in their 20s, then that could be part of it (not saying it is, just a starting point).

For full disclosure, I don't know much about guys...switched sides years ago, which really just resulted in a whole different set of problems ;)

Agree with this. Are you purposely looking for guys in their 20s?

YaWeeFurryBastard · 23/06/2024 11:33

Hateam · 23/06/2024 11:31

To be honest you sound like hard work.

Really? I think she sounds like a switched on woman with a lot to offer who knows what she wants. Are you standards very low so you think wanting a nice respectful partner is being hard work?

MaryMaryVeryContrary · 23/06/2024 11:32

I’ll add to that that some women (and men) just aren’t ‘sexual’. I know men like this who I like and respect very much, and they’re actually ok looking, but I just don’t fancy them.

Hateam · 23/06/2024 11:31

To be honest you sound like hard work.

MaryMaryVeryContrary · 23/06/2024 11:31

There’s something up in that case which is putting them off. I’m not being nasty, but this is the most obvious answer, and if you can fix that you’ll fix the rest of it. Any idea what it is?

LoopyLooooo · 23/06/2024 11:30

I'm in no way saying there's anything wrong with having sex after a couple of dates.

But would it make a difference if you waited a bit longer?

I mean would that help to sort out those who are likely to show a bit more commitment?

Iwilldrawjapan · 23/06/2024 11:29

Tagyoureit · 23/06/2024 11:27

You need therapy, not a relationship.
It's not down to a future partner to fix you and your self worth is definitely not dependent on a man deeming you worthy of him.

You need to love and respect yourself before you can expect anyone else to.

Tell me you're missing the point without telling me you're missing the point.
I do love and respect myself.
I'm not looking for a partner to fix me, I'm fed up with constant rejection.

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gardenmusic · 23/06/2024 11:29

'Tagyoureit · Today 11:27
You need therapy, not a relationship.
It's not down to a future partner to fix you and your self worth is definitely not dependent on a man deeming you worthy of him.

You need to love and respect yourself before you can expect anyone else to.'

Yeah, ignore that one.

Tagyoureit · 23/06/2024 11:27

You need therapy, not a relationship.
It's not down to a future partner to fix you and your self worth is definitely not dependent on a man deeming you worthy of him.

You need to love and respect yourself before you can expect anyone else to.

Lavenderblossoms · 23/06/2024 11:27

Try a dating agency.

gardenmusic · 23/06/2024 11:26

'The only one was my very first boyfriend, but I bet even he would've left'

NO. Stop it now. Stop thinking that this is your fault. Make a plan, and move forward.
For those saying meet single people, get a hobby, you just don't get it. Most people want to be in a loving relationship, despite having an otherwise fulfilled life. Most people want to be in a couple.
OP does not need advice on how to enjoy being single. That's for when she is elderly.
Trying to meet your partner in your 30's is really tough.

downwithmaterialistdogma · 23/06/2024 11:24

You need to join a proper paid for dating agency. There are plenty of crappy dating apps and sites, but you need a more credible one. I met dh through an online dating agency back in 2000 and we're still going strong. He's a decent man, they do exist, but stay away from the usual online dating places.

InWithPeaceOutWithStress · 23/06/2024 11:24

I think you need to stop worrying about looking desperate. Unfortunately you do need to relentlessly pursue what you want in life and finding a life partner is not easy.

You’re doing everything right in terms of keeping up a fulfilling life for yourself. You simply need to keep looking and dating more men until you find one it works out with. Don’t settle straightaway, date multiple men at the same time if possible before jumping to exclusivity.

It feels like a desperately lonely hinterland until it doesn’t…

ntmdino · 23/06/2024 11:23

Iwilldrawjapan · 23/06/2024 11:17

All I know is that they were all under 30, most couldn't even give a tangible reason.

One said I wasn't a 'challenge'
One said I was too shy.
One said I was beautiful and he was ugly (?)
One went abroad and met his girlfriend
One just 'suddenly' lost interest, no reason
One 'wasnt over his ex'
One 'doesnt date colleagues "
Etc etc

Maybe the problem is the guys you're choosing? Those all look like "I want to try something else" excuses, not actual genuine reasons.

Have you examined your selection criteria? I'm not suggesting that you lower your standards, but rather that you see if there's any common thread that results in you picking flakes.

For a start, if you're in your 30s and they're all in their 20s, then that could be part of it (not saying it is, just a starting point).

For full disclosure, I don't know much about guys...switched sides years ago, which really just resulted in a whole different set of problems ;)

Iwilldrawjapan · 23/06/2024 11:22

RomeoRivers · 23/06/2024 11:18

Hi OP,

You say that you have also rejected guys that have been interested in you, what were your reasons?

Usually because they were pushy and became aggressive when I politely declined.
I met one for a date last month and he had a very strange way of talking, tried to put his half chewed up food on my place and grabbed my waist to 'guide' me across the road.
But honestly I've hardly turned down anyone.

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Iwilldrawjapan · 23/06/2024 11:20

I've already been abroad and I do plenty of sports, languages etc. However, nothing whatsoever can make up for coming home to an empty flat every single day. Nothing.

It snacks of privilege for coupled up people to keep saying 'you need to work on yourself/love yourself!) (people IRL I mean)

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Wishihadanalgorithm · 23/06/2024 11:18

You need to meet more single people. I have a lot of single friends who all live fantastic filled lives. I envy them much of the time.

I wonder if you would benefit from doing something a bit crazy such as travelling alone for a while (if work can give you a sabbatical) or give up your job to work abroad for a charity where you get bed and board but little else?

OP, I do understand where you’re at because I had similar experiences when I was younger. Sometimes we need to get off the merry-go-round and do something different to help change our perspectives.

RomeoRivers · 23/06/2024 11:18

Hi OP,

You say that you have also rejected guys that have been interested in you, what were your reasons?

Iwilldrawjapan · 23/06/2024 11:18

One was abusive, cheated on me and said he was bored. The other just didn't want any form of commitment even after years.
The only one was my very first boyfriend, but I bet even he would've left.

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Iwilldrawjapan · 23/06/2024 11:17

All I know is that they were all under 30, most couldn't even give a tangible reason.

One said I wasn't a 'challenge'
One said I was too shy.
One said I was beautiful and he was ugly (?)
One went abroad and met his girlfriend
One just 'suddenly' lost interest, no reason
One 'wasnt over his ex'
One 'doesnt date colleagues "
Etc etc

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BestZebbie · 23/06/2024 11:16

If you particularly want to parent but don't feel that single parenthood through sperm donation is for you, have you considered fostering? (I appreciate this doesn't help you find a boyfriend - if anything it might hinder it - but it might add an additional dimension to your life which you currently feel locked out from).

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