To think Jewish people are the scapegoats of humanity?

It is all they have though.

Your bias means you clearly cannot accept facts. They say it is not a crime on marches, hence they will not be pursuing arrests. That is what the other poster said.

Semantics and changing the goalposts to accommodate your narrative is not the gotcha moment that you think it is.

TL/DR

Ah ok I see so the reason you're arguing this is because you want accuracy rather than a quick summary for everyone.

Fine, then

Johnson–Lindenstrauss lemma, a mathematical result concerning low-distortion embeddings of points from high-dimensional into low-dimensional Euclidean space contributed by Joram Lindenstrauss.
Development of the measurement of rigidity by Elon Lindenstrauss in ergodic theory, and their applications to number theory.[7]
A proof of Szemerédi's theorem using ergodic theory, by mathematician Hillel Furstenberg.
Expansion of axiomatic set theory and the ZF set theory by Abraham Fraenkel.
Development of the area of automorphic forms and L-functions by Ilya Piatetski-Shapiro.[8][9]
Development of Sauer–Shelah lemma and Shelah cardinal.
Development of the first proof of the alternating sign matrix conjecture.
Development of Zig-zag product of graphs, a method of combining smaller graphs to produce larger ones used in the construction of expander graphs by Avi Wigderson.
Development of Bernstein–Sato polynomial and proof of the Kazhdan–Lusztig conjectures by Joseph Bernstein
Generalization of the marriage theorem by obtaining the right transfinite conditions for infinite bipartite graphs. He subsequently proved the appropriate versions of the Kőnig theorem and the Menger theorem for infinite graphs by Ron Aharoni.
Development of the Amitsur–Levitzki theorem by Shimshon Amitsur.
False discovery rate, a statistical method for regulating Type I errors.[10]
Discovery of quasicrystals by Dan Shechtman of the Technion.[11] The discovery led him to receive the 2011 Nobel Prize in Chemistry.[12]
Discovery of the role of protein Ubiquitin by Avram Hershko and Aaron Ciechanover of the Technion Institute (together with the American biologist Irwin Rose). The discovery led them to receive the 2004 Nobel Prize in Chemistry.[13][14]
Increased understanding of how proteins are made - Ada Yonath of Israel alongside Venkatraman Ramakrishnan of India and Thomas A. Steitz of the US shared the 2009 Nobel Prize in Chemistry for increased understanding of the structure and function of ribosomes.[15]
Development of multiscale models for complex chemical systems by Arieh Warshel and Michael Levitt of the Weizmann Institute of Science (presently at University of Southern California and Stanford University, respectively), together with the Austrian-born American chemist Martin Karplus. The discovery led them to receive the 2013 Nobel Prize in Chemistry.[16]
The pressure bandage - known widely as the Israeli Bandage is a specially designed, first-aid device that is used to stop bleeding from hemorrhagic wounds caused by traumatic injuries in pre-hospital emergency situations.[29] First used for saving lives during a NATO peacekeeping operation in Bosnia and Herzegovina,[30] by inventor, Israeli military medic, Bernard Bar-Natan.[31] The bandage was successfully used during operations Enduring Freedom and Iraqi Freedom and is widely used today, across the world.[32][33][34] The bandage was nicknamed "Israeli bandage" by American soldiers, and has been "the bandage of choice for the US Army and special forces". Before the Israeli emergency bandage was invented in 1998, wounded soldiers were told to find a rock and wrap it on top of hemorrhaging wounds in order to hold direct pressure.[35] Bar-Natan sold his company to PerSys Medical Inc in Houston, Texas, the company that first introduced the bandage to the US military.
A Sudanese service member, right, applies a bandage to U.S. Navy Petty Officer 3rd Class Douglas Barton's arm during exercise Cutlass Express 2013 at the Port of Djibouti in Djibouti Nov. 13, 2013
An Israeli Bandage being used by Sudanese and US Naval service members during a training exercise.
Eshkol-Wachman Movement Notation – a notation system for recording movement on paper that has been used in many fields, including dance, physical therapy, animal behavior and early diagnosis of autism.[36]
Development of the Copaxone immunomodulator drug for treating multiple sclerosis. It was developed in the Weizmann Institute of Science in Israel by Michael Sela, Ruth Arnon and Deborah Teitelbaum.[37][38]
Development of bioengineered recombinant interferon proteins by Michel Revel from the Weizmann Institute of Science in Israel.[39]
Development of taliglucerase alfa (Elelyso), a recombinant glucocerebrosidase enzyme produced from transgenic carrot cell cultures.[40] Taliglucerase alfa won approval from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration in May 2012 as an orphan drug for the treatment of Type 1 Gaucher's disease.[41]
Sambucol, an over-the-counter elderberry-based anti-influenza syrup.[42] Discovered by Dr. Madeleine Mumcuoglu at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem. Studies in 1995 showed that Sambucol was effective against human, swine and avian influenza strains, although more research is required to clearly understand its effectiveness.[43][44][45]
Development of ENvue, a feeding tube placement system with advanced methods of navigation, integrated sensors and body mapping, for accurate enteral tube placement, by the Israeli company ENvizion Medical, used in Hospitals and Medical centers in the US.[46]
Work of Daniel Kahneman and Amos Tversky of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem explaining irrational human economic choices.[47] The work led Daniel to receive the 2002 Nobel Prize in Economics.[48]
Developments in Game theory. Israel Aumann of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem received the 2005 Nobel Prize in Economics for his work in this field.[49]
The Rubinstein bargaining model, one of the most influential findings in game theory, refers to a class of bargaining games that feature alternating offers through an infinite time horizon. The proof is from Ariel Rubinstein 1982.[50]
RSA public key encryption, introduced by Adi Shamir with Ron Rivest, and Leonard Adleman[54]
The concept of nondeterministic finite automatons, introduced by Michael O. Rabin[55]
Amir Pnueli introduced temporal logic into computing science
Lempel–Ziv–Welch algorithm, a universal lossless data compression algorithm created by Abraham Lempel and Jacob Ziv of the Technion institute, together with the American Information theorist, Terry Welch.[56]
Differential cryptanalysis, co-invented by Adi Shamir[citation needed]
Shamir's Secret Sharing, invented by Adi Shamir[citation needed]
Smartphone dual lens technology, by Israeli company Corephotonics. In 2018, Corephotonics sued Apple Inc for infringement of its dual camera patents; specifically regarding several iPhone models' use of their patented telephoto lens design, optical zoom method, and a method for intelligently fusing images from the wide-angle and telephoto lenses to improve image quality, infringing on four separate patents.[57][58][59][60][61][62] Corephotonics was bought by Samsung in 2018 for US$155 million.[63]
An iPhone with a dual lens camera; a technology developed by Israeli company Corephotonics.
An iPhone with a dual lens camera; a technology developed by Israeli company Corephotonics.
The Intel 8088 – This microprocessor, designed at Intel's Haifa laboratory, powered the first PC that IBM built,[64] which is credited with kickstarting the PC revolution.[65][66][67][68][69] The 8088 was designed in Israel at Intel's Haifa laboratory. The widespread use of the IBM's PC,[70] using the 8088 processor, established the use of x86 architecture as a de facto standard for decades. The IEEE wrote that "almost all the world’s PCs are built around CPUs that can claim the 8088 as an ancestor."[71][72] Intel has credited the 8088 with launching the company into the Fortune 500.[71]
Quicktionary Electronic dictionary – a pen-sized scanner able to scan words or phrases and immediately translate them into other languages, or keep them in memory in order to transfer them to the PC. Developed by the company Wizcom Technologies Ltd.[73]
Laser Keyboard – a virtual keyboard is projected onto a wall or table top and allows to type handheld computers and cell phones. Developed simultaneously by the Israeli company Lumio and Silicon Valley startup company Canesta.[74][75][76][77] The company subsequently licensed the technology to Celluon of Korea.[78]
TDMoIP (TDM over IP) − in telecommunications, the emulation of time-division multiplexing (TDM) over a packet-switched network (PSN), developed by engineers at RAD Data Communications[79]
Voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP) - technology for voice based communications using the internet instead of traditional telephone systems. VoIP was originally conceived by Danny Cohen, an Israeli-American scientist, but was first created, implemented, and commercialized by Netanya-based, Israeli company VocalTec and its founder Alon Cohen[80][81][82][83][84]
Many Intel processors are developed and/or manufactured in Israel[85] including:
Ice Lake Server processors, developed in Haifa and produced at Intel's Kiryat Gat plant.[86][87][88]
Celeron
Sunny Cove[89]
Rocket Lake
Alder Lake[90]
Pentium MMX[91]
Centrino / Pentium M[92]
Sandy Bridge
Development and production of processors and chipsets for many companies including Google, Apple, Microsoft, HP, Amazon, IBM, Broadcom, ARM, STMicroelectronics, Samsung, Sony, and Qualcomm, some of whom have had major research and development centers in Israel for decades, often developing key technologies in their Israeli R&D centers.[93][94][95][96][97][98]
Thunderbolt, a widely used interface technology, was developed as a joint venture between Apple Inc and Intel, in Israel[99][100][101]

As several of your posts lack any pleasantries..... I'd say my initial assessment of your replies to other posters are correct. But as others have rightly chosen not to waste their time engaging in prolonged discussion but merely posting to disprove your claims and then bidding you goodbye, so will I.

It's also incorrect ( but politically expedient for the OP) to claim that this conflict began on October 7th.

But then, its too easy to identify it.

At the moment, yes, I’m really angry about it. I think it’s honestly inhuman not to be at this point. The footage coming out of Gaza is literally nightmarish, I’ve never seen anything like it in my life.

I don’t think it’s derailing at all. The op says ‘It is absolutely horrific that civilians have been killed in such a high number or at all but a lot of the deaths can be explained as above and are all due to the war Hamas started..’ This statement is honestly obscene in light of the atrocities Israel has committed since October 7th (and decades before). Israels’ war crimes and ongoing genocidal attacks cannot be explained by anything, in my opinion. The level of disdain for human life Israel has shown is completely horrifying.

I’m not excusing antisemitism at all, and I’m not equating antisemitism with anything.

But the processor chip wasn't invented in Israel, and the first was launched more than a decade after its invention, claiming it as an innovation by an Israeli or from Israel is inaccurate. Standing on the shoulders of giants is not innovation.

Oh and "Nobel peace prize for game theory" there have been several, you might want to look it up.

Funny that you still want to make this claim of racial superiority though.

I mean, the OP makes some factual errors in her original post, ignoring the history of the Palestinian nationalist movement from the 19th century and other parts of her narrative make me think that this is a politically provocative post.

I also note that there is a going narrative here that this conflict began on October 7th. I mean it is very convenient if you are a supporter of the Israeli Government to portray it as the innocent and wronged party ( with a right to defend it's self) however, if you want to be accurate and say that this is a long standing conflict, you must also consider its actions over the last 76 years in which it has repeatedly broken international law, violated human rights and committed war crimes. There is no innocent party in this conflict at all.

BTW if its all about Hamas, why are Israeli forces ( and citizens) still breaking international law in the West Bank and attacking Palestinians there?

The history of antisemitism and its impacts on Jewish communities is of course one to take seriously, and to be solemnly remembered. We should firmly reject the ideas that have driven it as well as.

However, this should not stop us from examining the reasons for this conflict properly. The British and the Balfour declaration, the history of the Israeli and Palestinian militias in the inter war period, and what actually happened ( and had been planned to happen) to Palestinian communities who were driven out in 1948.

This is also why it gets more attention than other conflicts, it isn't that people hold Israel to a different standard (although in its defence they often cite the "only democracy and law abiding country in the middle east" thing, kind of ironic), its that this conflict and the issue around it have now been going on for over 100 years and the descendents of those impacted on both sides now reside globally as well as in their historically geographic areas

I'll add more later...

Even funnier when someone goes to the lengths of trying to argue only the people that invented these things had a significant influence on them. The first IBM PC used an Israeli Intel chip and there was a Nobel Prize awarded for Game Theory which you might want to look up.

Also nice of you to get back on topic and point out some innovative Jewish people, even though you did it because you were trying to fit a strange narrative about racial superiority.

@FactsNotFictionOnly

I've found the video (his speech to the UN).
Some posters might complain it's on the GB News website but it's also on YouTube. I don't know how to link YouTube.

Yes, very brave man, and his speech is so powerful.
I'm interested now in reading his book. Must have a look for it.

His desire is for peace, and although he supports Israel in this conflict and places the blame on Hamas (who he believes are the enemy of Palestinians), as he says in the video, as a Palestinian himself he loves his people.

It's quite long. About 30 minutes but well worth posters here listening to it all, because he makes points and gives explanations of the situation that can't be fully appreciated if only listening to the start or by skipping through it.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/son-of-hamas-co-founder-denounces-organization-at-un/ar-AA1kq9ie

There has always been an anti-semite undertone in England. King Edward I expelled England's entire Jewish population in the autumn of 1290. England was one of the first countries to target Jews in this way.

During WWII, and in light of the holocaust and the ritual slaughtering of millions of Jews, this was dialled back. But fast forward less than a century later, antisemitism is a huge thing. It's so ingrained in our culture and society, most don't see it, let alone realise they're part of the problem. Many of the posts in this thread are testament to this.

Palestine is a separate issue and the current horror of what is happening there should not be bought into this thread. However, and since it has, the area was originally home to Jews long before it was designated Palestine. It was the Roman emperor Hadrian who expelled the Jews. And then many centuries later that it became predominantly settled by Arabs although some Jews did remain.

As for the current status quo, yes, Israel's behaviour is abhorrent but so is Hamas'. Many seem to forget that Palestine/Hamas does not protect its own in the same way Israel does. Instead of using money to build underground shelters like Israel does, Hamas spends its money only on weapons. Many of its leaders don't even live in Palestine due to the chaos and danger they create. Hamas also uses innocent Palestines as humans shields, and why the Israel hostages are imprisoned with families, in hospitals etc. This way, if Israel try to rescue or target these places, innocents are killed, and so Israel can once more be at fault. But yes, let's blame Israel for trying to protect and rescue its own. It's a shame Hamas doesn't protect Palestinians.

All of this information is readily available yet many choose to overlook it.

That particular quote is the Met Police saying its conditional and absolutely CAN be a crime.

They didn't state its not a crime in the manner you've been suggesting!

Hence, the below:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-67255538

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-67327496.amp

And still neither you nor the other poster can produce the Chief's own words to support your claims yet insist you're correct.

Now, that's what I call arrogance! 🧐

Well, factually, John Von Neurmann and Oskar Morgensten invented Game Theory, and one was Hungarian American one was German Austrian, not Israeli, Intel was founded by Noyce and Moore in California and the first processors built there ( they do have a factory/research centre in Israel but the first processors weren't invented there....

I do love it when this claim about "achievements" against others is made, it does rather suggest you think there is a racial superiority.

Grown ups realise that they can only negotiate with a superior force with pleasantries.

MoMo999 is right. For fans of quotes:

https://news.met.police.uk/news/update-met-response-to-terror-attacks-in-israel-and-ongoing-military-action-in-gaza-474080

"One particular chant that has been the subject of extensive discussion is ‘Palestine will be free, from the river to the sea’. This is a chant that has been frequently heard at pro-Palestinian demonstrations for many years. We are well aware of the strength of feeling in relation to it.

While we can envisage scenarios where chanting these words could be unlawful, such as outside a synagogue or Jewish school, or directly at a Jewish person or group intended to intimidate, it is likely that its use in a wider protest setting, such as we anticipate this weekend, would not be an offence and would not result in arrests."

Don't need to tell myself that, it's been reiterated and made pretty clear since last October. Carry on trying to win the hearts and minds of people with no influence on the matter whatsoever - bye.

Tell yourself that. Doesn't bother me - bye

Yeah well your narrative hasn't changed anything since Israel's inception and it never will.

Not sure how many people have to die before you get the message.

And I wholly reject all your narratives and think your arrogance is on full display in thinking that your opinions are superior to anyone else's - they are not. You just proved the point that many have made about the superiority claims in the OP's original post. Result.

Waffle waffle interpretation of quotes and facts to suit your narrative hasn't convinced a single person responding on this thread. So keep going - I doubt anyone reads through propaganda tomes or pays them any heed.

Blows my mind that a couple of threads outlining the abject wickedness of Hamas have attracted tops a few dozen posts, but one about antisemitism runs and runs and runs with lots of antisemitic and borderline-antisemitic comments being made.

The idea of Israeli Jews as white colonisers is such bullshit. Many of the European Jews who have arrived in Israel over the years have been fleeing persecution and antisemitism. Most of the Middle Eastern Jews who immigrated had been expelled from or fled countries where the Jewish community predated Islam.

But why let the facts get in the way?

The last '86 years'

Israel: Quasicrystals, Pressure Bandages, RSA encrytpion, Intel Processors, Game Theory, Endocopies... innovations in just about every field you can think of disproportionate to population size

Iran: Terrorist Groups, and Proxywars via Palestine. No, nothing else.

Feel free to throw away your Israeli influenced computer if you're that up in arms about all this.