Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

DH grumpy all weekend if I don't give him sex

334 replies

maggh · 22/06/2024 20:55

There's a clear correlation.

He expects it every Friday night basically.

If I don't want to or say no, he's super grumpy all weekend. He doesn't talk much, moaps around, doesn't want to do anything, criticises stuff I've left undone at home. Just bad vibes all round.

I honestly wouldn't care if I never had sex again.

I only do it to avoid the moods, never because I want to.

Sometimes I say no, I'm tried or whatever and he just says he hates his life.

He also smokes and says if I ' gave him more sex ' he'd quit.

We have two kids under 5.

I'm feeling very resentful.

OP posts:
Autumcolors · 22/06/2024 22:18

As you mentioned both being Catholic I would suggest a novena to St Rita. She is a great help for marriages.
For a lot of men sex is a way to feel close to their wife. Is this the case for your DH. Have you asked him?
It’s also maybe worth thinking about maybe there are some hormonal issues going on- that you don’t feel desire. But you do find your DH handsome. Or is it that you are just knackend and need a break?
Sex for Catholic couples is really important- the act of intercourse is a source of grace in the marriage. And it should ideally be good sex!
I hope you can both find a way forward.

bonzaitree · 22/06/2024 22:17

I think you need to go to therapy. Ideally together and definitely on your own.

But honestly you cannot expect someone to be happy and remain in a sexless marriage.

Either the relationship will end, he will cheat or you open the relationship up. Something needs to change though.

BirthdayRainbow · 22/06/2024 22:17

TheTartfulLodger · 22/06/2024 22:05

That's not good enough, it isn't the answer they want to hear on MN. They want you to despise him and hate him. They want you to leave him because he's a rapist and a terrible father. It's the drama you see. They thrive on it here.

That's a very immature, unhelpful and untrue comment.

Scribblydoo · 22/06/2024 22:15

Go to counselling by yourself as this is not normal.

You don't want a divorce and your husband isn't willing make any changes by the sounds of it so you start getting to the bottom of what you're going to do.

His smoking is a red herring regarding your sexual desire. It is a symptom of the wider disregard he has for you and your family.

Sexual coercion is unacceptable, it's not an act of love, it's rape.

maggh · 22/06/2024 22:13

FeliciteFaff · 22/06/2024 22:03

I thought you were talking about a 16-30 year marriage. You’re better off without this man. You’ve still time to find the right guy.

I've had a few long term relationships and the real sexual spark, never lasted that long. I just thought it was normal to feel that way after a while.

I've heard other people say otherwise, but assumed it was BS because I've never experienced it.

I also never misrepresented myself before we got married. We both knew the score about everything. We were together 8 years before marriage and lived together for 4 years too.

I always just hoped it would change for me or I could just get on with it as I thought he was right for me.

Now all this time later, his moods just really put me off him. His personality is pretty downcast. I first thought it was just a transient thing, but it's just him. He's not a very sunny person. He's not spontaneous or joyful. He doesn't trust people, always cautious. I throw myself at stuff and I am open and want to have a full life.

We are basically pretty different people. I feel like he's always clipping my wings and enthusiasm for life and making me feel stupid and a bit like a teenager.

He's not fun. He's so unhappy and won't do anything about it. And he says he's unhappy, basically because of me and if only I gave him sex, he'd be happier.

Whereas I think I would be happier to actually be intimate with him, if he was just more up for doing stuff together and wasn't always so downcast and annoyed with me / the kids. Every time we go out, he can't wait to come home again. It bugs me. I wish he was just a bit kinder to me as well. He's just not. I don't feel like he even likes me, apart from providing a hole. He doesn't even care it's me. It's just because I'm there. He's also really tried to go all out with whips and ball gags and that kind of stuff and it's just a bit much, for someone who didn't really even want to do it in the first place.

OP posts:
Imambaldi · 22/06/2024 22:12

The relationship sounds over because he has given you the ick with his coercive control and sulking.
It gives you insight into his true nature. It would put anyone off sex.

A decent man would respect your wishes, treat you well, talk about your feelings and his own without the need for sulk.This in turn may leave you in the mood for intimacy.

You can’t change an entitled man. Especially one who smokes to punish you ! Furthermore you can’t talk rationally with someone like that because he sees his needs as more important than yours. You will always be made to feel at fault.

MateyMusings · 22/06/2024 22:11

This reply has been deleted

This has been deleted by MNHQ for breaking our Talk Guidelines.

Paganna · 22/06/2024 22:08

its good you’re able to speak so clearly about how you feel, here. I can understand someone sulking, which is how you’re description sounds, isn’t terribly attractive, nor is, from what you have written, what sounds like the negative energy, permeating the weekends, which can’t be fun. Sex, touch, sensuality is an important part of our lives, in whatever way we want that to be expressed - it doesn’t have to involve or conclude in intercourse. A few questions that maybe interesting to ask yourself: what do you want to change, specifically, and how can you discuss this with your partner? how are you feeling in your relationship, generally? Do you feel connected, can you laugh, flirt, cuddle, be intimate together generally? Do you have fun togther, alone, without east of family? How are you feeling generally? My view is, we all get on each others nerves and it’s perfectly normal to despise and want to kill out other halves from time to time - I think! Sex doesn’t have to be the be all and end all, but it is for some people extremely important, and lack of sex can trigger feelings of lack of desire, connection, love. I’d see if your partner and you can sit down and have a bit of a chat, choose a time that feels right for you, when you’re not tired etc, when you both aren’t hungry too. This conversation may take a few run ups/ try’s to get under the skin of what you both are feeling, needing. Good luck and I hope you’re able to talk this out.

Newgirls · 22/06/2024 22:06

why does he get to say no to counselling? Tell him it’s happening else marriage is over

BabyFedUp445 · 22/06/2024 22:06

TheTartfulLodger · 22/06/2024 22:02

If you spent too long on here you'd think so yes. All anyone seems to do is egg people on to end marriages over the most trivial reasons. Nobody works on marriage anymore. They all just walk away apparently. I think they must view marriage as a party to have a few times a year just to walk away straight afterwards and not something to be worked on. No til death do us part around here..

@TheTartfulLodger sex is not trivial. When you marry, BOTH parties make vows. He's broken his. He's not treating her with love and respect. So the woman should just grin and bear it while the man gets to be an arsehole?

Nah. Life's too short. Life is worth so so much more than that.

Universalsnail · 22/06/2024 22:05

Seperate. What is the point of this relationship?
He shouldn't have to live in a sexless monogamous relationship. You shouldn't have to live with some bloke having a strop about sex when you don't want to or be pressured into it . You clearly don't like him that much and he's probably bad in bed otherwise you'd want to have sex sometimes and I can tell from this post he thinks sex is about his dick and not about your pleasure.

Call it a day. You'll be a lot happier.

AnneLovesGilbert · 22/06/2024 22:05

TheTartfulLodger · 22/06/2024 22:02

If you spent too long on here you'd think so yes. All anyone seems to do is egg people on to end marriages over the most trivial reasons. Nobody works on marriage anymore. They all just walk away apparently. I think they must view marriage as a party to have a few times a year just to walk away straight afterwards and not something to be worked on. No til death do us part around here..

How are OP and her husband working on their marriage? Through terrible communication and mutual resentment they’ve been watching it die in front of them.

Youdontevengohere · 22/06/2024 22:05

maggh · 22/06/2024 21:48

We had normal sex when we first met in our early twenties 15 years ago.. nothing too much or too little, just the usual amount I would say.

We've been together for so long. Isn't it normal for it to slow the fuck down ? Two kids later, body changes, all the stresses of life.

I don't think his self esteem is shot tbh. He says it's all on me and apparently I wasn't up for it as much as he liked, even before. It's always been my issue, according to him.

In all honesty, I started going off sex a bit after the first year or so. It's always been the case for me in relationships. I just thought that was completely normal. To have ups and downs.

He'd get a bit grumpy even then.

At the moment I'm just repulsed by it all. Not just with him, just sex in general, I find it so disgusting. Not sure what's happened. Maybe my body has just shut down now, through years of not wanting to do it, but doing it with gritted teeth.

It doesn’t sound like you have up periods though, if you went off it after the first year. Just downs? Yes it’s normal to go off sex. It’s also normal to want sex. He’s an absolute arsehole for behaving like a pathetic man child when he doesn’t get sex. You need to be honest with him that you don’t see sex as an important part of your relationship. Then you can both make a decision as to how to proceed.
I wouldn’t be willing to live the rest of my life without sex.

TheTartfulLodger · 22/06/2024 22:05

maggh · 22/06/2024 22:00

I'm also not repulsed by him per se. He's really handsome.

That's not good enough, it isn't the answer they want to hear on MN. They want you to despise him and hate him. They want you to leave him because he's a rapist and a terrible father. It's the drama you see. They thrive on it here.

TomatoSandwiches · 22/06/2024 22:04

maggh · 22/06/2024 21:59

No he won't leave the marriage.

He's catholic. We both are. Him more than me though....

I don't know how I feel about him having sex with someone else. I can't predict how I would feel about that. It's not ideal.

I want to go to counselling personally, but he doesn't want to.

Of course he doesn't want to go to counselling, he doesn't want to be held accountable for his sulking and coercive behaviour, he just wants you to give in, lay back and think of England.

He doesn't care if you enjoy sex he wants to use your body for his own pleasure.

He shows you no consideration through his behavioir and actions, THAT is why you don't want sex, he isn't even treating you like a human being, you don't feel safe enough to have sex with him.

AGlinnerOfHope · 22/06/2024 22:04

AnneLovesGilbert · 22/06/2024 21:19

She said

I honestly wouldn't care if I never had sex again.

Having sex with a man who expects sex on Fridays and sulks if it doesn’t happen is not intimacy.

Why would anyone want sex with someone like that? Doesn’t mean we don’t long for intimacy. Don’t confuse duty sex with intimacy.

maggh · 22/06/2024 22:04

user1471453601 · 22/06/2024 22:02

Your view, and your partner's view, of sex is odd to me. I'm way, way past the inclination. But, as I remember it, sex was a mutual enjoyment type of thing.

not a transactional thing. As in "I'll give you sex, you give me a good natured weekend".

just the thought of "giving" someone sex, seems all kinds of wrong.

Oh, and I don't think everyone over a certain age should be disinterested in sex, just that I am.

Yeah it's gross.

I used that terminology without even thinking because that's how he talks about it.

I don't give him sex, I don't give him any joy in his life. Everything would be better if I just gave him more sex. He'd stop smoking, be less grumpy etc.

It's totally fucked up terminology, you're right.

OP posts:
GinForBreakfast · 22/06/2024 22:04

There's absolutely no excuse for his behaviour. But neither of you are communicating well to each other. TBH if you went off sex after a year into the relationship you really should not have gotten married. Being trapped in a sexless marriage is horrible.

There's no excuse for his behaviour but you will need to address the whole situation together before it turns even more toxic.

FeliciteFaff · 22/06/2024 22:03

I thought you were talking about a 16-30 year marriage. You’re better off without this man. You’ve still time to find the right guy.

BabyFedUp445 · 22/06/2024 22:03

Not just with him, just sex in general, I find it so disgusting

I 100% guarantee you it's him. You just can't see it yet as you've forgotten what it feels like to be appreciated and respected.

TheTartfulLodger · 22/06/2024 22:02

maggh · 22/06/2024 21:22

Is that really how easily people give up on marriages?

He's not my boyfriend- we are married with two kids.. surely there must be some way to sort this out, that isn't divorce?

Or am I just dreaming to think like that?

If you spent too long on here you'd think so yes. All anyone seems to do is egg people on to end marriages over the most trivial reasons. Nobody works on marriage anymore. They all just walk away apparently. I think they must view marriage as a party to have a few times a year just to walk away straight afterwards and not something to be worked on. No til death do us part around here..

user1471453601 · 22/06/2024 22:02

Your view, and your partner's view, of sex is odd to me. I'm way, way past the inclination. But, as I remember it, sex was a mutual enjoyment type of thing.

not a transactional thing. As in "I'll give you sex, you give me a good natured weekend".

just the thought of "giving" someone sex, seems all kinds of wrong.

Oh, and I don't think everyone over a certain age should be disinterested in sex, just that I am.

Doubledded123 · 22/06/2024 22:02

Oh grim. He is raping you
You grit your teeth ?
Christ- Monday ask for advice from womens aid they are brilliant
Can you imagine years and years of this?

I'm sad you have to live like this. Did he grump around today? Ifyou were my friend I'd tell you to get him on a countdown. Once more and that's the end,

Rapist.

BabyFedUp445 · 22/06/2024 22:01

@Ilovebees really? You think coercing someone into sex is the way to do it? Rather than be affectionate and respectful, communicate and be patient? Sex for women is as much emotional as physical. I need to feel loved, respected and appreciated. Threats, resentment and silent treatment would make my vagina firmly shut down.

maggh · 22/06/2024 22:00

I'm also not repulsed by him per se. He's really handsome.

OP posts:
Swipe left for the next trending thread