Starmer, JKR, what's most important to most women 2?

Yeh it’s an odd one got an age we’ve been told no one cares

But an well known author can now shift a GE outcome

She did well, the timing is spot on

Dawkins said I was disgusting because I said women have two X chromosomes and men have an X and a Y and you can’t change that.

Couldn’t agree more: ”His supporters can blame women, but it’s really all his fault.” Tbf this isn’t restricted to Labour, but across the board.

I’ve lost count of the times on Twitter/X where (usually male) commentators assert that, surely, there are “more important issues to discuss like ‘the economy, education, health’ etc” - forgetting that women are participants in society.

As over half the population, it’s not too much to expect that women are consulted and represented adequately.

No. I'm suggesting JKR choosing to use her platform at this moment to suggest women don't vote Labour might have unintended consequences.

No, she said she wouldn't vote Labour and gave the reasons why. Do you really think JKR is that powerful that she can influence every other person in the UK's voting intentions?

Of course it is. Why wouldn’t it be it’s his policies

What is harming Labour is them taking this position in the first place, not people pointing it out.

If the issue is unimportant, it won't matter if women talk about it.

If the issue matters, women should talk about it.

Me too. My issue with JKR wading in is the timing. It seems calculated to harm Labour, if she wanted to put pressure on to change direction there are other ways to do it.

JKR you are doing this all wrong, you can't speak up now this is not the right time, we might get round to it later and we might listen to you if you just do it and say it differently and if you speaking out now results in us losing then it is all your fault you pesky woman

Un fucking believable.

You don't think JKR has been putting pressure on in many different ways for a long time?

You are so desperate not to have anyone harm the credentials of the likely next leader of this country Cassie aren't you?

How about the likely next leader of this country shows that he is actually capable of listening to women without calling them toxic for bringing the matter up and going all wobbly lipped and teary eyed and calling the trans community the most vulnerable group in society, ever, ever, ever in order to shut down women's concerns.

How about the likely next leader of the country doesn't have to check out what a previous Labour PM said and agree with that rather than the many, many, women including one of his own MPs who said the same thing?

I get that, and haven't said that's not a valid view. I don't feel I can vote for them personally, but am not voting for any right wing parties.

Edit: my comment "You've been had" was not about voting Labour. It was about the many false accusations that have been made about Rowling and her motivations, and claims that she "doesn't care" about anything else, "she's too rich", "she's forgotten" etc. They are blatantly false, but the smears have been spread everywhere. This is different from "disagreeing with her stance" on women's rights. It's accusing her of feelings and motivations and actions that she simply doesn't have and hasn't taken.

If Starmers inability to speak clearly about this issue is the one thing that might threaten his massive lead, hed be an idiot not to do something about it.

His supporters can blame women, but its really all his fault.

Have a look on Twitter. One of those GC Reform voters you’ve seen on there may have linked to it.

And we're back to the Schrödinger's women's whose point.

This can't be simultaneously totally unimportant to the voting public, but also significant enough to throw an election they seem to have in the bag. Pick a lane.

I always think it's very suss if people want to take attention away from things that they know are very important.

I agree with this. I think it’s a warning to Labour to not take us for granted and for them to remember the self-id fiasco in Scotland. We’re not going to be so swept away with joy that the Tories are gone that we won’t scrutinise what a Labour government will do. And we won’t be afraid to oppose a Labour government doing something we disagree with.

No. I'm suggesting JKR choosing to use her platform at this moment to suggest women don't vote Labour might have unintended consequences.

and again, she didn’t advocate for what other people do with they vote. I don’t know what it is about JKR - she’s an excellent clear and witty writer and yet so many people seem to mis-read her output.

She's been writing about the issue for a while now, shes not decided to speak only 'at this moment '.

I cant imagine she'll stop talking once Starmer is PM.

It's not JKR's fault that Labour have failed to listen to women's very valid concerns on this issue and have treated people like Duffield as they have. That's all on the party. Don't blame the person who's only calling it out.

No, she is concerned that half ofpopulation's human rights is respected and legally protected. Sir Keir knows what he has to do…

You’re giving her a lot of ability to sway voters

And of course she can use her own voice. I’m glad she is

I am a leftie myself, so no, I don't "hate lefties".

Please stop making accusations that aren't true.

Oh, and if you're going to accuse me of "aggression" for, er, disagreeing with you in a way you don't seem to be able to answer, can I point you to the fact that accusing others falsely (because you don't have any arguments?) and ad hominems is a pretty aggressive tactic. It's also a weak one. Suggest it stops.

I found the article useful - it covers issues that ‘come up in conversation’ on this thread already, as well as on other platforms and in real life.

Women are weighing up the pros/cons offered by all parties and will vote as they see fit.

DARVO is an acronym. It means Deny, Attack and Reverse Victim and Offender. Acronyms use capital letters.

Using acronyms the way they are used normally is not "shouting".

I agree, I’m furious that this might jeapordise our chances of getting the Tories out. She is more concerned with her own voice.

Women have the right to be involved in politics; we've been shoved out of the Labour Party so we're reduced to using the media to get out point across.

Complaining that women are speaking about an issue that directly affects them in the hope they can get their own party to listen to them is taking the piss.

Ah OK I see what you mean. I think JKR is just holding Labour’s feet to the fire. I don’t think she’ll have such an impact on voting intentions as to sway the polls all the way to the Tories. And Starmer could improve the situation by clarifying some of the manifesto weasel words over the next few days.

I was talking about her previous post that I replied to where she posted to me pretty aggressively.
Not sure why but I'm not interested in being a punching bag for posters who hate lefties.

Using CAPITAL LETTERS is commonly understood to be equivalent to shouting on the internet

''DARVO'' is an acronym (as you well know, you've posted it yourself), and they are usually give on capital letters.