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PupInAPram · 2024-06-22T19:15:25+00:00

{mention:pleasehelpwi3} said it best.

SergeantDawkins · 22/06/2024 22:56

RufustheFactualReindeer · 22/06/2024 22:51

Oh good lord I’ve accidentally aligned myself with dawkins 😩

now I’m embarrassed and ashamed 🥺

Hurrah!

NoWordForFluffy · 22/06/2024 22:56

Ereshkigalangcleg · 22/06/2024 22:54

I'm a woman, I don't iron.

My husband does most of our ironing (limited to school uniform really). He was also a SAHP. Is he a <gasps> woman?!

RufustheFactualReindeer · 22/06/2024 22:56

MuchasSmoochas · 22/06/2024 22:55

@SergeantDawkins do you think ironing makes you “female” ?

Ill let my dad know

FOJN · 22/06/2024 22:56

NoWordForFluffy · 22/06/2024 22:46

House!!!!!!!

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No, not yet unless I've missed the predatory lesbians.

We've had the debunked suicide claim though so we're close.

TheKeatingFive · 22/06/2024 22:55

And what are we to conclude from this - woman means a person who irons? 🫠

Springwatch123 · 22/06/2024 22:55

SergeantDawkins · 22/06/2024 22:53

No mammal irons their husband’s shirts either. Like I said, “woman” is a social construct.

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So my dh and ds are women because they iron their own shirts?

CassieMaddox · 22/06/2024 22:55

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 22/06/2024 22:12

Why aren't Labour the party of women's rights?

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They are. What other party is pledging to halve violence against women and girls? What other party has a plan to deal with the rape backlog?

Honestly. You don't want to vote for them, fine, your choice. But don't just make shit up.

Who is "the party of women's rights"? Reform? The Tories? Don't make me laugh. Packed to the rafters with actual men who hate women. Take money off misogynists. Praise misogynists.

It's pretty laughable at this point to be pointing to Labour as the problem 😂

SergeantDawkins · 22/06/2024 22:55

SnakesAndArrows · 22/06/2024 22:46

That’s quite the allegation.

I’ve asked before, but I think you didn’t answer. Do disabled women receiving personal care have the right to be cared for by a female-born woman? Are they horrible bullies if they do not want to be cared for (and by this I mean changing incontinence and/or sanitary wear) by a person with a penis? Do the rights of the transwoman carer trump the rights of the woman?

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I haven’t answered because I have no expertise in the area of elderly care. And I think each issue should be dealt with with care, consideration and understanding not just banging on about it on mumsnet.

MuchasSmoochas · 22/06/2024 22:55

@SergeantDawkins do you think ironing makes you “female” ?

TheKeatingFive · 22/06/2024 22:55

SergeantDawkins · 22/06/2024 22:53

No mammal irons their husband’s shirts either. Like I said, “woman” is a social construct.

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That might be the stupidest thing I've ever read on here 🤯

Ereshkigalangcleg · 22/06/2024 22:54

I'm a woman, I don't iron.

DrNickedMaCorpus · 22/06/2024 22:54

myduglovesbaltis · 22/06/2024 22:52

I posted earlier. I can't remember if it was on this name but I don't post often. I'm working class and despise Reform. Thought I was going hold my nose and vote Labour then I seen what Counsellor Clare from Chester put up . Those awful Labour men and women. How can they say this isn't about poor women and children? This subjectpenetrates every issue. For example; we have Shelter highlighting that we have massive issue with private renters at risk of homelessness or becoming homeless. Labour is not really doing the council house building we need. So what happens?Do we shove women and children in with self iding trans women or do what has happened in Scotland and just away with single sex spaces? So amazing up there- men in with women in homeless hotels. Drug death rate is heartbreaking. That is just one example and if you add vulnerable children , many with disabilities into the mix , it is not a fringe issue. I am so glad I seen Clare's video. I have met those MEN and Women before, yeh they have the election in the bag. It's only poor skanks like me that will be affected .They should have made better choices you can them say. Yeah well I will now.
On and it's my birthday today and I got a copy of Women Won't Wheesh and I bloody well won't !

Happy birthday! We really won't wheesht, either.

TheKeatingFive · 22/06/2024 22:54

SergeantDawkins · 22/06/2024 22:52

Not the right to compete in sport, visit a swimming pool or try on clothes, apparently.

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They have all those rights.

You know this. Quit being disingenuous.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 22/06/2024 22:54

Not the right to compete in sport, visit a swimming pool or try on clothes, apparently.

Of course they do, don't be silly. There are lots of spaces for males.

SergeantDawkins · 22/06/2024 22:53

TheKeatingFive · 22/06/2024 22:52

Even if that were true. And it isn't.

There is still no mechanism for changing sex. No mammal has ever done this, in the extensive history of the world.

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No mammal irons their husband’s shirts either. Like I said, “woman” is a social construct.

Springwatch123 · 22/06/2024 22:53

SergeantDawkins · 22/06/2024 22:52

Not the right to compete in sport, visit a swimming pool or try on clothes, apparently.

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Rights as a man (if trans woman) or woman (if trans man).

DrNickedMaCorpus · 22/06/2024 22:53

SergeantDawkins · 22/06/2024 22:52

Not the right to compete in sport, visit a swimming pool or try on clothes, apparently.

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Don't be daft. They can do all of these things.

DrNickedMaCorpus · 22/06/2024 22:52

SergeantDawkins · 22/06/2024 22:50

Haha of course you are. Your clothes were chosen for you at birth depending on your genitals, for instance. The entire concept of femininity is socially constructed.

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You assume my parents dressed me a certain way.

myduglovesbaltis · 22/06/2024 22:52

I posted earlier. I can't remember if it was on this name but I don't post often. I'm working class and despise Reform. Thought I was going hold my nose and vote Labour then I seen what Counsellor Clare from Chester put up . Those awful Labour men and women. How can they say this isn't about poor women and children? This subjectpenetrates every issue. For example; we have Shelter highlighting that we have massive issue with private renters at risk of homelessness or becoming homeless. Labour is not really doing the council house building we need. So what happens?Do we shove women and children in with self iding trans women or do what has happened in Scotland and just away with single sex spaces? So amazing up there- men in with women in homeless hotels. Drug death rate is heartbreaking. That is just one example and if you add vulnerable children , many with disabilities into the mix , it is not a fringe issue. I am so glad I seen Clare's video. I have met those MEN and Women before, yeh they have the election in the bag. It's only poor skanks like me that will be affected .They should have made better choices you can them say. Yeah well I will now.
On and it's my birthday today and I got a copy of Women Won't Wheesh and I bloody well won't !

SergeantDawkins · 22/06/2024 22:52

DrNickedMaCorpus · 22/06/2024 22:48

We all know trans people exist and have rights, as is proper.

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Not the right to compete in sport, visit a swimming pool or try on clothes, apparently.

TheKeatingFive · 22/06/2024 22:52

SergeantDawkins · 22/06/2024 22:45

Mother Nature creates intersex humans and animals. Nature is not binary.

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Even if that were true. And it isn't.

There is still no mechanism for changing sex. No mammal has ever done this, in the extensive history of the world.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 22/06/2024 22:52

Anyone claiming that has shocking comprehension and / or is posting in bad faith.

There's a lot of both tonight.

AlisonDonut · 22/06/2024 22:51

SergeantDawkins · 22/06/2024 22:15

Puberty blockers have been used safely for years on children reaching puberty at an early age to delay it. No one seemed to mind when the “normal” kids needed them.

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No, they haven't. There are many side effects of these drugs on people who were given them for precocious puberty. There is a reason the prescription of these is limited to just months.

RufustheFactualReindeer · 22/06/2024 22:51

Oh good lord I’ve accidentally aligned myself with dawkins 😩

now I’m embarrassed and ashamed 🥺

Springwatch123 · 22/06/2024 22:51

SergeantDawkins · 22/06/2024 22:50

Haha of course you are. Your clothes were chosen for you at birth depending on your genitals, for instance. The entire concept of femininity is socially constructed.

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And yet both my husband and I were wearing blue jeans earlier. So not exactly true. And so you admit that gender is a social construct, and not sec.