To think that the majority of trans people are neurodivergent

Yeah most of us know this. A couple of posters actually thought it was homophobic!!!

With my entire hormones, physical appearance, internal female systems like utero the same? And also all my memories? Yeah of course I'd feel like a woman. What has that got to do with anything.

@Watermelonsregularly "Re language (someone up thread mentioned) ASD is offensive to much of the autistic community given the word disorder."

Both my children are ASD, both in their thirties now. As their parent, born more than 60 years ago, of course I too am quite far on the spectrum but undiagnosed.

If ASD is not a disorder, why is it in the DSM? If it's not a disorder, why were my children both profoundly grateful when they got their diagnoses (one very late) because it meant "it was not their fault"? Meaning that they weren't deliberately gauche, hard work and awkward.

ASD is a mixed hand - and generally (excuse my words) a social handicap is somewhere in that mix. This causes the person to suffer. If it's not a disorder, there is no suffering, and you're just fucking pretending to have a disability that you don't have, asking for special consideration and accommodation that you don't need.

Please think this stuff through.

@BustyCrustacean yes there are massive elements of this that I see can be dangerous - protection of female spaces is something I think about in this. The more I read on here the more I am moving away from live and let live. I actually feel more compassion than anything for that sub group which is just a vulnerable and confused person.

But there are subgroups with different agendas within the trans ' group ' I would think there are those who aren't militant about it. I may be wrong as I don't actually know any trans people. I also hate doing what we are doing - telling other people why and who they are - like we do to Autistic people in general.

I'd still feel like me, and I don't feel like a man or woman and never have.

How can someone born female know what it's like to be male? And vice versa.

It's literally just guessing and quite often based on stereotypes.

I think there’s a huge link. Being ND myself it’s hard not fitting in. Finding a group that provides a way of presenting differently and accepts you into their tribe must be a very tempting proposition to many ND people.

Read up about the differences in radicalised and non radicalised brains...

OK
https://theconversation.com/you-dont-have-a-male-or-female-brain-the-more-brains-scientists-study-the-weaker-the-evidence-for-sex-differences-158005

There is research the supports your OP. Also, three is research in area of “obsessive thinking”, and if same sex attracted, obsessively trying to figure out why. Something isn’t right, find out how to fix it. To fix the obsessive thinking about why, change gender because now it’s fixed.

So if you woke up tomorrow with balls and a dick, will you still feel like a woman?

But that's nonsense. This is real life, not a sci-fi film.

I think amongst girls, there has already been made a tentative link between being ND and trans, and that the amount of non ND girls who present as trans, is less than the ND ones. I think it's very I,portent to look at why, and whether it's an issue with not feeling like you belong in the stereotype, that makes you assume to need to comply with a different stereotype, and I hope that with the CASS report there can be a more open discussion around it all

I'm sorry but it's deranged to start a thread like this and then accuse posters of ignorance when they suggest contributing factors.

The correlation between abuse and being trans has been researched. Of course abuse doesn't single handedly "cause" people to be trans, but it isn't difficult to speculate on why it might be a contributing factor. Psychological, sexual or physical abuse are well known to make victims hate their bodies and dissociate from their bodies, to start with.

It is sad. It's very very sad. Neither the militantly pro or the incredibly anti trans movements have done anything to protect the most vulnerable groups identifying as trans: trans youth who are largely ND. Usually they're just used as a token to argue over instead. Absolutely nobody looks out for their well-being. It's absolutely crap.

Read up about the differences in male and female brain.

Firstly, most evidence suggests that there really isn't much.

Secondly, how could anyone possibly know that they somehow had the brain of a member of the opposite sex? There's no test, no possible evidence. There's just assuming you must be because you don't comform to gender stereotype.

It stands for queer and many people happily identify as queer.

@Fantapops when I read this I just feel sad. I'm not passionately angry about the subject. I understand there are elements of it one should be very passionately against so as not to railroad certain liberties we have.
Overall my feeling is sadness and empathy tbh.

When I watch any debates online I often see young people getting verbally torn apart by the anti trans agenda as their arguments just cannot stand up in any way. When I see that I feel sad almost. Many people are just vulnerable.

The internet.

I agree!

But that's magical thinking and has no basis in reality.
What things do only male brains think of or believe?
Can you have a male kidney or liver if you're female?

Why can't you just be a woman that likes stereotypically male things?

Agree. I do think legitimately transgender people exist but I also completely agree with this.

and I'd say live and let live but it's dangerous nonsense both for the believer and for the rest of us.