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To think that the majority of trans people are neurodivergent

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SlipperSliders · 22/06/2024 19:53

...and I sort of think it's a form of neurodivergence in itself.

By the way I'm trans affirmative.

I don't think I've met a trans person who I thought was neurotypical.

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Ritasueandbobtoo9 · 22/06/2024 20:17

The trans people I know have all been abused.

PermanentTemporary · 22/06/2024 20:17

Seeing ND girls and young women going for mastectomies and identifying as trans long before they can access any meaningful support for living as ND people in an NT world doesn't make me feel hate. It's fucking distressing.

Hinkuy · 22/06/2024 20:16

Just picking up on some of the language in this thread. Is queer now an acceptable term? In the 90s this was an all out insult. Need to update my mindset clearly so please educate me!

Pantaloons99 · 22/06/2024 20:16

I completely accept I'm saying this with no supporting evidence. I can't recall who it was who was talking about it either, apologies 🤦‍♀️

But, a guy I watched online made alot of sense to me in describing research on trans individuals. He did say that a high proportion were ND and associated this with Identity struggles experienced by many ND people translating into a gender identity issue. The second group were victims of severe abuse and trauma wishing to disassociate with their body and identity.

I myself wonder if there are individuals where there is some biological difference on a level we can't measure. There is just some change or something going on biologically that predisposes one to identify with the opposite sex. I feel this because it's a hell of a life to ' choose' with alot of prejudice and hardship tbh.

SlipperSliders · 22/06/2024 20:14

@glittercunt

But it's important that people don't equate someone being ND as meaning their sexuality or gender identity is therefore somehow invalid.

Yes I whole heartedly agree.

I just wonder if some transphobic people may hate less if they realised that they are being hateful to a group of marginalised ND people.

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PermanentTemporary · 22/06/2024 20:13

I've never transitioned but it seems to me there isn't one single group of people who do. I know that about ten years ago 35% of referrals to GIDS were either diagnosed ND or present with very strong traits of neurodiversity (must look up the exact stats) which is obviously a HUGELY significant overrepresentation, so i agree with you to an extent.

What I don't know is what proportion of those were male and what proportion female. Because of the people I know who have transitioned, I would say all the women are neurodivergent (usually undiagnosed, or diagnosed post transition).

Having said that, the men I know who've transitioned may indeed be ND - if anything they are men who present with traits associated with the female presentation of ASD, if that's not too confusing.

I hope in 100 years we will know far more about what neurodiversity really is, and what makes people want to transition.

wlv12 · 22/06/2024 20:11

Very small group here but out of 4 nieces/nephews I have who are ND, 3 are/have been trans.

A huge amount of friends with ND young adult children also identify as trans. Doesn’t mean they all are but there seems a higher percentage.

FourChimneys · 22/06/2024 20:11

I know five trans or nb teenagers through my work, ranging from 14 to 19 years old.

Every one of them is nd. This cannot be a coincidence.

glittercunt · 22/06/2024 20:07

I'm quietly proud to consider myself enby, my body, my life, my choice, and so many reasons.

And I'm ND.

And I've a massive social network of other alternative, ND queers.

It's a huge area of study I wish I had the degree to be undertaking at post grad level; the way various things from autoimmune and genetic conditions/ disabilities intersect with being non heterosexual or otherwise identifying as queer/ gender queer, and those intersecting with being ND...

But it's important that people don't equate someone being ND as meaning their sexuality or gender identity is therefore somehow invalid.

No two disabled ND queer folk are identical.

SlipperSliders · 22/06/2024 20:02

@Daleksatemyshed sorry please can you clarify?

I think it's far more about being ND, than what?

The high levels of people who transition seems to me to support this. Do you mean the high levels of ND people?

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Daleksatemyshed · 22/06/2024 19:59

I think it's far more about being ND, they feel they're different and don't fit in, being trans seems like a reason why. The high levels of people who transition seems to me to support this.