To think that the majority of trans people are neurodivergent

No but what you said about the identity thing - what does that actually mean? I don't get it.

And how can you know whether they are or not on here?

Do you have to be a specified amount of not straight before you are allowed to identify as not straight? Is it a certain number of same sex people you have to kiss before you qualify?

Am confused, I am quite happy to let people label their sexuality if it helps them

I genuinely thought transgender and transsexual was all the same thing. I say trans sexual, I didn't realise this was offensive.

These guys are not the reason people are getting concerned!

And if they’re not a gay man it’s offensive appropriation in the same way a white person calling themselves the N word because like enjoy jerk chicken would be

Like so many terms that the trans lobby use it seems to be almost undefinable.

Because they have chosen a new name they are trans gender.

Eh?! What does that mean. Clearly need to update my mindset here.

What?!?? That's insane. And awful. I'd liken it to the N word - why would you ever say that. And LGBQ people just accept this that people will come up to them and say hey I'm queer and that's ok?!

As far as I can see queer now seems to be pushed to mean someone that has a gender identity.

@PermanentTemporary I'm sure ASD is the term they often use in the medical profession and that stupid mental disorders manual! I didn't realise either until I started the journey to diagnosis for my son. We say ASCondition. I encourage him always to say I am Autistic not I have Autism but that's a whole other thread! 😆

In this case the poster is describing themselves as queer, it's their identity. It's not a usage I would think reportable, it's very widely used

But trans is just short for transexual no?! If its offensive why didn't they pick a new name. I don't get all this, no wonder people are accidently offending people these days it's a mine field.

For some of the people who call themselves "queer" it just means they're "spicy" straight. Probably kissed a person of the same sex at a bar while a bit tipsy and thought they wouldn't mind doing that again.

Both of my children are neurodivergent, struggled to fit in at school and are now having gender identity issues. Both children in one family born into the wrong body, what are the chances?!
they both only started having these issues during lockdown and puberty, like so many of their friends. Dd has gone from princess, makeup, dressing up loving feminine girl to anime, makeup, dressing up loving girl who thinks she’s always felt like a boy despite all the evidence to the contrary. Ds still loves Star Wars and fighting and zombie games but wearing a short pleated skirt, cat ears and over the knee socks instead of jeans. It’s almost like there’s something else at play here and vulnerable nd children are more susceptible to it.

What's wrong with saying ASD?! I thought ASD and autism were the same thing?! I'm so confused these days.

Having gender dysphoria is no longer required to be trans.
Older transsexuals have been pointing this out for some time.
FYI, transsexual is apparently a slur to some trans people.

I don’t know any gay men of my generation who would ever call themselves the Q word. Y’know, because they actually lived through “queer bashing” and have the literal scars to prove it

I think the vast majority of teenagers being targeted by the TRA programming are vulnerable in some way, whether it be neurodiversity, previous abuse, social isolation, victims of homophobia etc. I want those children to be supported and protected and safeguarded. I want them to receive appropriate psychological and social support. I do not want them to be stampeded into a pathway of spiralling overmedicalisation and ultimately sterilisation and mutilation. Transition should only be for the tiny minority who actually have enduring gender dysphoria, not for the many children who feel alienated and lost, and think the trans umbrella is the yellow brick road to social approval and fitting in.

Apologies for using ASD, I was trying to specify being autistic separately from other forms of neurodiversity and used the wrong term.

My son is 12, Autistic, ADHD but quite anti trans. I'm an annoying liberal so I don't quite get that. We debate regularly on the subject and my view is always live and let live, why so passionate in your argument against it? He did bring me more towards a different perspective tbh when we discussed issues relating to enforcing pronouns, public spaces, sports ( but we won't go there!)

He feels it's a mental health problem. Many feel this. I believe for many it may be, but I believe there's the possibility we just don't know enough facts on the subject yet.

I don't really know the answer and won't propose to be an expert on it either. I do enjoy discussing theories. I never feel hatred on this. That I don't understand but I see it is rife.

I've definitely read arguments associating people who are abused in childhood with becoming trans. Or am I just thinking of the Buffalo Bill character! 🤦‍♀️🤷‍♀️

Genuinely though - I really don't want to Google this if it could be offensive - what does Queer actually mean (for the ones who use it positively) that couldn't be phrased by saying they're lesbian, gay, bisexual etc?

I'm curious to know who you think hates trans people.

Trans people have gender dysphoria.

The current trend is wildly unhelpful in supporting people with this condition.